Summer Mercato Thread 2018 (56 Viewers)

[dolph]

And how much we would have to pay for Bonuccis salary??? The same as Higuains now? Its a bad deal for us no matter how you look at it. We would only get 20m now and we have to pay almost the same salary. For 20 mil I rather keep Higuain.

Bonbon is rumored to get 6-6,5 net if he returns lets say 12m gross. A bit lower than Higuains. The difference is that we will probably get Bonucci back for 30m. With a 4 year contract that is a yearly amortisation of 7,5m or a total impact of around 20m. Thats around 18m in difference.

Isolated the 20m loan for Higuain is a good deal. I dont like the Caldara/ Bonucci swap either, but the way people are reacting to it is just ridicuosly over the top.

Did people really think we were going to buy Christiano fucking Ronaldo for 112m and give him 60m wages without there being some sacrifices. In my book I would much rather cash in on Caldara than loosing one of our current starters.

 

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[LiquidPLP]

It's entirely fair. Or defense got absolutely smashed in CL this year. 12 goals allowed in 10 games. We struggled badly with any good team that pressed us high up the pitch. And that's where we missed Bonucci. His ability to turn play quickly and catch out teams cheating up he pitch like that helped us immensely.

Compared to 14-15 and 16-17 with Bonucci in a back 4, it's not even close.

Let's not forget about Dani Alves and Mandzukic who were immensely important to those stats for 16-17. Cuadrado too.

While Bonucci was essential for our buildup play and ability to maintain possession, move the ball from the back, he's hardly extraordinary as a defender. He's slow and can't tackle to save his life. He's strong though and this is something he knows how to use properly.

 

[DUKAC]

Many? Then name 5-10.

Our team made him good. Our defense made him good as they took care of his brain farts. I don't think I've ever seen a defender who made so many fuck ups in his first 2-3 seasons here.

Me too.A "trademark" errors.

 

[Stevie]

Agresti confirms deal with Milan
https://twitter.com/romeoagresti/status/1024009294742794242?s=19

Bye bye Pipita and Caldara.

Fuck

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Any recompra mentioned?

 

[alexjuventino]

Lmao we got completely fucked

 

[IlCapitano]

Funny because Bonucci isn't remotely close to as good as two years ago, nor are Chiellini and Barzagli who seem to be the only players to bring the best out of him.

Plus our defence conceded less than the season before when Bonucci was here, despite playing more open and expansive football.

Ofc he is as good. One bad year with a bad team proves nothing.

No way in hell did we play more open and expansive football this season. With Bonucci we played 4 strikers up front. This year we played very badly and not open other than first month maybe.

 

[DUKAC]

Fuck this newest news about Bonucci coming back.

 

[Post Ironic]

That's all fair but its also at the expense of giving away a young promising defender

I'd have even be fine with swapping Higuain with Bonucci + a nominal fee

Its a shitty deal no matter which way you look at it. There's no arguing this.

It's quite obviously a shitty deal in isolation. But it's not happening in a vacuum. You have to take into account context. And that is the Ronaldo deal. And the fact we are upgrading are starting XI.

You called Bonucci a top 3 CB in football and had a little fit when we sold him last summer. You're not willing to consider he might return to his best next season, under Allegri again?

But you're so ready to ignore two mediocre years of Pogba at ManU, dude was even benched this year for Mctominay and Fellaini at one point, and willingly sacrifice our current best CM Pjanic for him?

That seems a little hypocritical.

Neither Caldara or Rugani is yet close to the level of player Bonucci was the last three years. So I fail to see how upgrading Caldara + Higuain to Bonucci + Ronaldo is as bad as you are making it out to be? Unless it's entirely due to dislike and disgust with Bonucci the person. And there I am with you.

 

[Akshen]

Agresti confirms deal with Milan
https://twitter.com/romeoagresti/status/1024009294742794242?s=19

Bye bye Pipita and Caldara.

Any recompra mentioned?

No mention of recompra. Also Higuain is option to buy nit obligation.
Im dissappointed but already got over loosing Caldara.

 

[Orgut]

Funny because Bonucci isn't remotely close to as good as two years ago, nor are Chiellini and Barzagli who seem to be the only players to bring the best out of him.

Plus our defence conceded less than the season before when Bonucci was here, despite playing more open and expansive football.

Davids and Cannavaro were shit for Milan&Inter and they were amazing for us!
A top player can flop in the wrong environment.
Bonucci still got it but he is still a traitor

 

[Boksic]

Ofc he is as good. One bad year with a bad team proves nothing.

No way in hell did we play more open and expansive football this season. With Bonucci we played 4 strikers up front. This year we played very badly and not open other than first month maybe.

Of course we did, we were far more open last season, using Douglas Costa to good effect by hugging the touchline.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

No mention of recompra. Also Higuain is option to buy nit obligation.
Im dissappointed but already got over loosing Caldara.

The fuck are we doing?

 

[Boksic]

Agresti confirms deal with Milan
https://twitter.com/romeoagresti/status/1024009294742794242?s=19

Bye bye Pipita and Caldara.

Ridiculous deal.

AC won't believe their luck. We had all the cards here and yet they walk away with the better deal.

 

[Akshen]

I guess with this deal we can say mercato is closed? For me back up lb is missing, spina injured for too long.
Also hope this is the year we sell Sturaro.
Kean and Favilli hopefully sold with recompra.
And icing on the cake Bonucci il capitano... of the Juve B team.

 

[Dostoevsky]

We got fucked in the ass oh man....

 

[Xperd]

It's quite obviously a shitty deal in isolation. But it's not happening in a vacuum. You have to take into account context. And that is the Ronaldo deal. And the fact we are upgrading are starting XI.

You called Bonucci a top 3 CB in football and had a little fit when we sold him last summer. You're not willing to consider he might return to his best next season, under Allegri again?

But you're so ready to ignore two mediocre years of Pogba at ManU, dude was even benched this year for Mctominay and Fellaini at one point, and willingly sacrifice our current best CM Pjanic for him?

That seems a little hypocritical.

Neither Caldara or Rugani is yet close to the level of player Bonucci was the last three years. So I fail to see how upgrading Caldara + Higuain to Bonucci + Ronaldo is as bad as you are making it out to be? Unless it's entirely due to dislike and disgust with Bonucci the person. And there I am with you.

Point 1 : Fair. But my irritation is for different reasons.

Point 2: I was more annoyed by the fact that we donated him for peanuts to FUCKING MILAN of all clubs. And i wont deny our passing from the back we suffered without him.

Point 3: Pogba is 25, a superstar. He has way more years ahead of him. He played like a superstar at the World Cup. Considering his marketing potential alone, i'd have had him back especially with Ronaldo there. Bonucci is old is nowhere near his marketing potential.

Point 4 : They arent but we're letting go of potential, simple as that. In hindsight the Higuain-Pogba deal which was virtually a swap deal turned out to be bad business in the end considering how desperate we are to offload him.

I know we're going all in for the short term, but if we dont win CL in the next couple of years, we'd have failed badly with these short term business deals. Just my opinion.

 

[MikeM]

Nobody wanted Higuain, that's all it comes down to.

We had no option to keep him. Had to sell. We should have sold before we bought Ronaldo to maintain any amount of leverage.

Milan took advantage.

 

[Akshen]

If this means we have retrieved all the extra money that we spent on CR7 then i wont cry.
Caldara is looking really good but CR7 is just something else, even at 33.

 

[Jem83]

But isn't Bonucci's high salary the reason the main reason they want him off their books? How then could they afford Pipita's wages?