Summer Mercato Thread 2018 (56 Viewers)

[Hust]

- Is Gigi here?
- Does Alex Sandro love Juve?
- Can we sign another mid?
- Will Beppe pay Pellegrini's clause?
- Will we keep all our top players?
- Will Caldara and Spinazzola take the next step?
- Starting RB needed.
- Is Hustini still annoying?

 

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[Gagi]

For me Bonucci never was world class and I always hated him but did not express that because he was Juventus player. Now if he came back I think I will be banned very quicly because I will offend Bonucci as a Juve player constantly.That motherfucker.

Shit on him before we sign him. It's happening.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

- Is Gigi here?
- Does Alex Sandro love Juve?
- Can we sign another mid?
- Will Beppe pay Pellegrini's clause?
- Will we keep all our top players?
- Will Caldara and Spinazzola take the next step?
- Starting RB needed.
- Is Hustini still annoying?

 

[Post Ironic]

Funny because Bonucci isn't remotely close to as good as two years ago, nor are Chiellini and Barzagli who seem to be the only players to bring the best out of him.

Plus our defence conceded less than the season before when Bonucci was here, despite playing more open and expansive football.

Ignoring CL I see.

 

[Mark]

Forgot about that post LOLOL

last part lol

 

[Dostoevsky]

Come on, you know that's not true. Many examples of WC players, even Ballon d'Ors who go to overrated teams and fail. CBs especially need a good system and good players around them. After Gattuso took over he played better. Not great, but better.

They don't want him out, he wants out.

Never left us like that? So Vidal, Pogba weren't class players? Him being a class player has nothing to do with that. He's a shitty person, but a WC player.

Many? Then name 5-10.

Our team made him good. Our defense made him good as they took care of his brain farts. I don't think I've ever seen a defender who made so many fuck ups in his first 2-3 seasons here.

 

[dolph]

Milans offer 20m loan, with a right of redemption set to 35m.

This formula does not entirely convince the Higuain brothers who will now meet with Leonardo in the next few hours.

Leonardo will try to convince Pipita explaining that the formula of the operation (loan with right of redemption in fact) is only necessary for budget issues and that Higuain in the Rossoneri's ideas will be a point of reference for the present and for the future.

- Gdm

It all makes pretty good sense.

We want to get rid of Higuain, to get his wages and yearly amortisation of the books. We dont want to sell him for less than his book value (58m I think). Only Milan are interested in Higuain but they are restricted by ffp, so they cant buy him outright. Instead they can offer to pay a loan matching his yearly amortisation, and get an option that equals his book value in a year. That way we get his wages of the books, and we get a loan fee to counter the amortisation and we bank on Milan using their buy option in a year, or Higuain having a season making his market value at least 35m next summer. That way we wont take any financial loss on Higuain.

Milan cant afford Bonbons wages, if they are getting Higuains too, so they have to get rid of him and find a “cheap” replacement in Caldara. We have to make the deal to get rid of Higuain.

 

[DanielSz]

It all makes pretty good sense.

We want to get rid of Higuain, to get his wages and yearly amortisation of the books. We dont want to sell him for less than his book value (58m I think). Only Milan are interested in Higuain but they are restricted by ffp, so they cant buy him outright. Instead they can offer to pay a loan matching his yearly amortisation, and get an option that equals his book value in a year. That way we get his wages of the books, and we get a loan fee to counter the amortisation and we bank on Milan using their buy option in a year, or Higuain having a season making his market value at least 35m next summer. That way we wont take any financial loss on Higuain.

Milan cant afford Bonbons wages, if they are getting Higuains too, so they have to get rid of him and find a “cheap” replacement in Caldara. We have to make the deal to get rid of Higuain.

No that’s not how it works. No club would just sacrifice a player like Caldara, especially when so many other clubs would actually pay up for him. They’re not that stupid. If Milan want a replacement they can have Benatia, or better yet, they can find someone on their own. We’re not a charity.

 

[JuveMkd]

It all makes pretty good sense.

We want to get rid of Higuain, to get his wages and yearly amortisation of the books. We dont want to sell him for less than his book value (58m I think). Only Milan are interested in Higuain but they are restricted by ffp, so they cant buy him outright. Instead they can offer to pay a loan matching his yearly amortisation, and get an option that equals his book value in a year. That way we get his wages of the books, and we get a loan fee to counter the amortisation and we bank on Milan using their buy option in a year, or Higuain having a season making his market value at least 35m next summer. That way we wont take any financial loss on Higuain.

Milan cant afford Bonbons wages, if they are getting Higuains too, so they have to get rid of him and find a “cheap” replacement in Caldara. We have to make the deal to get rid of Higuain.

They can give us Romagnoli for Caldara not Bonucci. Then I be happy with loaning them Higuain.

 

[Boksic]

Ignoring CL I see.

CL is a bit of an anomaly depending on your draw, you can get easier draws and harder ones. Thought it would be fairer to compare Serie A as you essentially play the same teams.

No doubt we did very well in the CL up to the final a couple of seasons ago, especially in Barcelona.

 

[dolph]

They can give us Romagnoli for Caldara not Bonucci. Then I be happy with loaning them Higuain.

Romagnoli dont have a 8m net wage.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

They can give us Romagnoli for Caldara not Bonucci. Then I be happy with loaning them Higuain.

Fuck it, get both. That'd be more even.

 

[JuveMkd]

Romagnoli dont have a 8m net wage.

And we don't need Bonucci or we don't intend to pay him 8m. Why make them a favor. Rather keep Higuain 1 more year if no one wants him. And yes those 20m for Higuain loan won't make a big difference on our books.

 

[dolph]

No that’s not how it works. No club would just sacrifice a player like Caldara, especially when so many other clubs would actually pay up for him. They’re not that stupid. If Milan want a replacement they can have Benatia, or better yet, they can find someone on their own. We’re not a charity.

We are getting Bonucci in return, its not a charity its s deal, and that is excatly how business works. I will scratch your back if you scratch mine.

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And we don't need Bonucci or we don't intend to pay him 8m. Why make them a favor. Rather keep Higuain 1 more year if no one wants him.

We cant afford to keep Higuain as a bench player. He has a 15m wage and 22m yearly amortisation. That has an negative impact of 37m on our books, for a player that will be a substitute for Ronaldo.

Apparently the management believe we need him.

 

[Juvellino]

We don't need Bonucci. Milan need to get rid of him, we don't need to do them any favors.

 

[JuveMkd]

We are getting Bonucci in return, its not a charity its s deal, and that is excatly how business works. I will scratch your back if you scratch mine.

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We cant afford to keep Higuain as a bench player. He has a 15m wage and 22m yearly amortisation. That has an negative impact of 37m on our books, for a player that will be a substitute for Ronaldo.

Apparently the management believe we need him.

And how much we would have to pay for Bonuccis salary??? The same as Higuains now? Its a bad deal for us no matter how you look at it. We would only get 20m now and we have to pay almost the same salary. For 20 mil I rather keep Higuain.

 

[Xperd]

We are getting Bonucci in return, its not a charity its s deal, and that is excatly how business works. I will scratch your back if you scratch mine.

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We cant afford to keep Higuain as a bench player. He has a 15m wage and 22m yearly amortisation. That has an negative impact of 37m on our books, for a player that will be a substitute for Ronaldo.

Apparently the management believe we need him.

That's all fair but its also at the expense of giving away a young promising defender

I'd have even be fine with swapping Higuain with Bonucci + a nominal fee

Its a shitty deal no matter which way you look at it. There's no arguing this.

 

[Post Ironic]

CL is a bit of an anomaly depending on your draw, you can get easier draws and harder ones. Thought it would be fairer to compare Serie A as you essentially play the same teams.

No doubt we did very well in the CL up to the final a couple of seasons ago, especially in Barcelona.

It's entirely fair. Our defense got absolutely smashed in CL this year. 12 goals allowed in 10 games. We struggled badly with any good team that pressed us high up the pitch. And that's where we missed Bonucci. His ability to turn play quickly and catch out teams cheating up he pitch like that helped us immensely.

Compared to 14-15 and 16-17 with Bonucci in a back 4, it's not even close.

 

[Akshen]

Agresti confirms deal with Milan
https://twitter.com/romeoagresti/status/1024009294742794242?s=19

Bye bye Pipita and Caldara.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Well this is going to be awkward.