Summer Mercato Thread 2018 (60 Viewers)
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Not in Italy, I don't think so..
But the thing is not the price itself. It's the very low recompra price.
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I say it's fishy because it will come divulged (I think) as a sale with the right (not obligation) to buy back - like Juve could decide in 2 yrs if we get the player back or not. That was really Morata's case, and that's more favourable to Madrid.
But in reality, it will be a sale with the obligation to buyback. Or, one way or another, this money is going back to Udinese.
I say this because of 2 reasons:
1) A sale with the obligation to buy back, on paper, would mean it's also an obligation - that would go to the books. On the other hand, if you put on paper it's a right, you get to put in the books only the right to receive 20M - improving it; the obligation will have to be inserted only in 2 yrs. But despite that, it actually already exists. It's just under the table.
2) To Udinese it makes absolutely no sense at all to spend 20M (huge amount for them), only to receive 24M in 2 yrs, if the guy breaks out. If he fails, he stays. I mean, the downside is too big for them, it doesn't make sense from their point of view.
But the thing is not the price itself. It's the very low recompra price.
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I say it's fishy because it will come divulged (I think) as a sale with the right (not obligation) to buy back - like Juve could decide in 2 yrs if we get the player back or not. That was really Morata's case, and that's more favourable to Madrid.
But in reality, it will be a sale with the obligation to buyback. Or, one way or another, this money is going back to Udinese.
I say this because of 2 reasons:
1) A sale with the obligation to buy back, on paper, would mean it's also an obligation - that would go to the books. On the other hand, if you put on paper it's a right, you get to put in the books only the right to receive 20M - improving it; the obligation will have to be inserted only in 2 yrs. But despite that, it actually already exists. It's just under the table.
2) To Udinese it makes absolutely no sense at all to spend 20M (huge amount for them), only to receive 24M in 2 yrs, if the guy breaks out. If he fails, he stays. I mean, the downside is too big for them, it doesn't make sense from their point of view.
keep em kids on the ground
Juventus swap Kean for De Ligt?
By Football Italia staff
Juventus could reportedly offer Moise Kean to Ajax as part of a deal for Matthijs de Ligt.
The Bianconeri are known to be interested in the young centre-back, particularly as Medhi Benatia could leave the club this summer.
It’s thought there is an agreement in principle with the player, but the 18-year-old will not come cheap.
According to Tuttosport, the Old Lady could look to lower the cost of the deal by offering Kean in exchange.
Ajax have shown interest in the young striker in the past, and both players are represented by Mino Raiola, which could make the deal more easy.
By Football Italia staff
Juventus could reportedly offer Moise Kean to Ajax as part of a deal for Matthijs de Ligt.
The Bianconeri are known to be interested in the young centre-back, particularly as Medhi Benatia could leave the club this summer.
It’s thought there is an agreement in principle with the player, but the 18-year-old will not come cheap.
According to Tuttosport, the Old Lady could look to lower the cost of the deal by offering Kean in exchange.
Ajax have shown interest in the young striker in the past, and both players are represented by Mino Raiola, which could make the deal more easy.
Cmon man, buy-back "clauses" dont really work that way like with Mandragora, also with him it may look like optional, but in reality it will be obligatory and come two years we will pay them those 24 mil, whateva happens with the player. This is one club - Juventus, paying another one- Udinese, 4 mil euros to use, play and develop a young player for a short period of time and then get him back and decide if they are gonna use him or sell him for good.
This is a better formula than a loan, as when you loan a player to another club, you dont get guarantees that the coach there will play and prefer him. With a deal like that however, you give them a player and money and in return you get a contract with clauses that Udinese has to respect - and the most important one that comes to mind is that the two clubs have set up an absolute minimum number of appearances per season that Mandragora should make (if he is available and healthy, of course), and so on.
If we make 3 more deals like that for 3 more youngsters, it would mean that in summer 2020 we have to pay back around 100 mil euro for 4 players that we currently own. Beppe is better than that.
This is a better formula than a loan, as when you loan a player to another club, you dont get guarantees that the coach there will play and prefer him. With a deal like that however, you give them a player and money and in return you get a contract with clauses that Udinese has to respect - and the most important one that comes to mind is that the two clubs have set up an absolute minimum number of appearances per season that Mandragora should make (if he is available and healthy, of course), and so on.
If we make 3 more deals like that for 3 more youngsters, it would mean that in summer 2020 we have to pay back around 100 mil euro for 4 players that we currently own. Beppe is better than that.
A bidding war doesn't necessarily mean another club is bidding on the same player IMO. We got tired of upping our bid to get rejected so we walked away from the negotiating table.
Our club sees the need for another CM, listed him on the shortlist of filling a role in that position, so yeah, I think if a club bids 2-3 times for you that makes you someone the club has a strong interest in.
Beppe got tired of the back and forth and sees a better opportunity for someone probably more proven than him.
Our club sees the need for another CM, listed him on the shortlist of filling a role in that position, so yeah, I think if a club bids 2-3 times for you that makes you someone the club has a strong interest in.
Beppe got tired of the back and forth and sees a better opportunity for someone probably more proven than him.
he cant do that. he must always use different numbers. why? because...
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