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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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If dybala is leaving the board should resign
Dybala is a great player with amazing potential but to be honest I would gladly sell Dybala if its the only way to improve our team
Dybala`s price tag is 150M and yes he is worth it in terms of his talent (he even worth more) BUT for us he isnt a 150M player.. He isnt even our best player as D.Costa performs 99% of the games while Dybala is more of a 50/50...
Getting Griezmann would be the best but if we cant then Martial Higuain/Morata D.Costa might be as good if Martial proves himself as a great signing..

We need to understand that while Dybala is a great player with a potential of winning the Ballon Dao`r - he isnt that player for us and only shown 60% of his ability up till now..
Martial 100% might be better than Dybala 60%
This being said 100% is far better than a 100% Martial...

The difference between the players is a player like SMS or Pogba...
If you let me choose between SMS/Pogba+Martial and Dybala I`d definitely take the former..
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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Dybala is a great player with amazing potential but to be honest I would gladly sell Dybala if its the only way to improve our team
Dybala`s price tag is 150M and yes he is worth it in terms of his talent (he even worth more) BUT for us he isnt a 150M player.. He isnt even our best player as D.Costa performs 99% of the games while Dybala is more of a 50/50...
Getting Griezmann would be the best but if we cant then Martial Higuain/Morata D.Costa might be as good if Martial proves himself as a great signing..

We need to understand that while Dybala is a great player with a potential of winning the Ballon Dao`r - he isnt that player for us and only shown 60% of his ability up till now..
Martial 100% might be better than Dybala 60%
This being said 100% is far better than a 100% Martial...

The difference between the players is a player like SMS or Pogba...
If you let me choose between SMS/Pogba+Martial and Dybala I`d definitely take the former..
We shouldn't have to sell our best player to improve our team!!!
 

Orgut

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For the Price of bonaventura, Perin and Darmian we could have $#@!ing bought Fabinho
Yeah but.. If we get Fabinho instead Allegri wouldnt be happy and want to leave.. Who knows who we might get instead.. maybe even an.......... attacking coach.. (naah.. We will probably get another Italian coach who will focus on defense..)
 
Jul 20, 2012
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SMS would be a dream. But yeah, your point is a good one. There will be a bidding war at the high rollers table we don't have a seat at currently. We can only watch at this point.

Can is a decent start but we need another great CM and we run into the problem of having to replace the players leaving plus whoever we actually decide to sell.

I think if Can failed that would have been a giant wrench in the clubs plans. Locking him down for free gives them more wiggle room. Beppe loves his wiggle room. :beppe:
I'm really get the feeling Can is the only midfield reinforcement.

With that being said, we are being linked to the likes of Martial and Morata. While I am all for them, especially Morata, they would be luxury signings. Our midfield and even our defense need improvements.

If the only departures are Buffon, Licht, ASA, and Manduzkic, I feel like the management will see the midfield as not a big priority given they will be ADDING a player in Can. Also if there are no midfield departures, our midfield will look almost exactly the same, which is extremely underwhelming.

Now realistically, if we sign Can, we need to make another midfield signing. A more dynamic player, I personally do not like Pjanic so much as a regista and would rather he moved to the lcm/rcm spot. So if we are to sign Can, he is essentially a version 2 of Khedira and therefore I would have loved a player in the mold of Tolisso here. Everyone wants SMS but that is never happening. A player like Pogba would be perfect to occupy that left side .

Now on to the defense, Caldara and Spina are coming in. Two good additions. Spina brings some nice versality to our bench, while Caldara is a starter and I wouldn't be surprised if he split game time with Benatia and Chiellini. As far as our targets and rumored signings. Darmian, is an okay player; would be fine to start against the likes of sassoulo and Genoa but no way in hell in the Cl. Therefore I am completely against this signing given we will have both De sciglio and Spina who can play on both flanks. Now this Arias guy, I have no fucking clue but judging by people's reactions he sounds like another average signing, so I am also against it. (I am assuming Sandro will stay). So if Sandro is staying we need a quality rb unless we intend on using Cuadrado has our starting rb. If that is not the case, get a young player.

Lastly the attack, given mandzukic leaves and we bring back Pjaca that means we will have

Lw : Pjaca/Costa
Cf : Dybala/Higuain
Rw: Berna/Cuad/Costa

Costa is our mainstay, while Dybala and Higuain do not seem to thrive off each other. Given that we are playing a 4-3-3 Higuain and Dybala will probably still be the other two making up our front three.

If however Higuain or Dybala is sold, then both Martial and Morata are necessary.

Lw: Martial/Morata/Pjaca
Cf: Dybala OR Higuain, Morata, Martial
Rw: Costa, Berna, Cuad

Anyway I'm moving into my basement and so I wrote this while taking a break but I have no idea where my point is going anymore.

Anyway we need a cm other than Can, a new Rb IF BOTH, Sandro stays and we Don't intend on using Cuadrado as our main rb, and we should only bring both Morata and Martial in the event that either Higuain or Dybala is sold.

Also nothing against the management, I'm hoping they will clear this up but idk
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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We shouldn't have to sell our best player to improve our team!!!
If we want to be the best possible team - No we shouldnt.. BUT we all know we wont spend Billions..
In order to spend some serious cash we need to sell some serious cash - This is how it has always been, Its not my way of improving our team but our board`s..
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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Yeah but.. If we get Fabinho instead Allegri wouldnt be happy and want to leave.. Who knows who we might get instead.. maybe even an.......... attacking coach.. (naah.. We will probably get another Italian coach who will focus on defense..)
any manager who would rather have bonaventura, perin and darmian over a player like Fabinho deserves to leave
 

Wittl

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Feb 21, 2017
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I'm really get the feeling Can is the only midfield reinforcement.

With that being said, we are being linked to the likes of Martial and Morata. While I am all for them, especially Morata, they would be luxury signings. Our midfield and even our defense need improvements.

If the only departures are Buffon, Licht, ASA, and Manduzkic, I feel like the management will see the midfield as not a big priority given they will be ADDING a player in Can. Also if there are no midfield departures, our midfield will look almost exactly the same, which is extremely underwhelming.

Now realistically, if we sign Can, we need to make another midfield signing. A more dynamic player, I personally do not like Pjanic so much as a regista and would rather he moved to the lcm/rcm spot. So if we are to sign Can, he is essentially a version 2 of Khedira and therefore I would have loved a player in the mold of Tolisso here. Everyone wants SMS but that is never happening. A player like Pogba would be perfect to occupy that left side .

Now on to the defense, Caldara and Spina are coming in. Two good additions. Spina brings some nice versality to our bench, while Caldara is a starter and I wouldn't be surprised if he split game time with Benatia and Chiellini. As far as our targets and rumored signings. Darmian, is an okay player; would be fine to start against the likes of sassoulo and Genoa but no way in hell in the Cl. Therefore I am completely against this signing given we will have both De sciglio and Spina who can play on both flanks. Now this Arias guy, I have no fucking clue but judging by people's reactions he sounds like another average signing, so I am also against it. (I am assuming Sandro will stay). So if Sandro is staying we need a quality rb unless we intend on using Cuadrado has our starting rb. If that is not the case, get a young player.

Lastly the attack, given mandzukic leaves and we bring back Pjaca that means we will have

Lw : Pjaca/Costa
Cf : Dybala/Higuain
Rw: Berna/Cuad/Costa

Costa is our mainstay, while Dybala and Higuain do not seem to thrive off each other. Given that we are playing a 4-3-3 Higuain and Dybala will probably still be the other two making up our front three.

If however Higuain or Dybala is sold, then both Martial and Morata are necessary.

Lw: Martial/Morata/Pjaca
Cf: Dybala OR Higuain, Morata, Martial
Rw: Costa, Berna, Cuad

Anyway I'm moving into my basement and so I wrote this while taking a break but I have no idea where my point is going anymore.

Anyway we need a cm other than Can, a new Rb IF BOTH, Sandro stays and we Don't intend on using Cuadrado as our main rb, and we should only bring both Morata and Martial in the event that either Higuain or Dybala is sold.

Also nothing against the management, I'm hoping they will clear this up but idk
And you really have the feeling he would be a reinforcement?

I do not have this feeling. He might be younger than Matuidi, Khedira or Marchisio, but to reach Khediras niveau he still needs to improve himself.
 
Jul 20, 2012
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And you really have the feeling he would be a reinforcement?

I do not have this feeling. He might be younger than Matuidi, Khedira or Marchisio, but to reach Khediras niveau he still needs to improve himself.
I wouldn't say he is an improvement more of a step sideways until he proves he is better than Khedira. Khedira even though he got ragged on, had his best season in terms of scoring and played a big part in the majority of our games
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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Did Fabinho take another step up this year?

Because last season he was decent, not better than decent. He's being talked about like he's WC.
However he's a million times better than bonaventura and the other cack midfielders we're strongly linked with

No offence but for someone who thinks Donnarumma is worse than Perin and Sirigu cannot be taken seriously
 

sgjuveboy

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Oct 31, 2012
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We could actually get Luke Shaw for free and then make him a world class player, pissing on mourinho and man Utd again.


----------------woj------------------
Cua----chie-----bena----luke shaw
------bentanc-pja-pogba----------
DC-----------Dybala---------martial

Subs:
Young keeper
Rugani
Barza
Marchisio
Matuidi
Berna
Bale
 
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