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Maddy

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Jul 10, 2009
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Tiem for us to acquiesce Marotta's midfield plans: Can as a starter and soem off-the-shelf italian serie a shitter as depth. The big splash on midfield is utopia.

The apologists will liekly defend it by soem Marotta'esque newspeak about a tough market, we don't enter bidding wars, we are in a special situation, Bonaventura is better than Sturaro and so on.
 

TheLaz

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Oct 6, 2011
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Problem with SMS is they will reject anything under €100m.

Any bids of €100m or above will probably be considered. Preferably they don't want him to end up here. In a bidding tie we will always be rejected..

We sell Sandro or Higuain for €50-60m and spend the €40m budget just to make Lazio listen.. United will offer €110m just like that..
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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If it's a choice between Dybala and Higuain then it's a no brainer, especially if a team like PSG comes in and offers 50-60 million.
Why would it be a choice between Dybala and Higuain? Last time I checked Juve haven't been in red so why do we have to sell any of them?
Playing Dybala as a CF is a utopia some users believe in. He doesn't have a right foot, is relatively weak physically and can't head the ball so what kind of CF is he? Give me an example of a player similar to Dybala playing as a lone striker. No, Griezmann ain't one as ATM has always played 442 and he had the likes of Raul Garcia, Costa or Torres next to him so very physical players. The only player that comes to my mind is Messi but I'm not sure if it's worth it to compare Dybala to Messi.
Even if somebody offered 50mln for Pipa we should not sell. He's a top striker that has one of the best goal ratio in Juve history. Yet some people are ready to replace him with Dybala who's not even a CF or Morata who's been a failure so far in his career. He scored some important goals for Juve but let's be serious, he was more like a cherry on top in his first season here while in the second he only had cameos like the City or Bayern game. Higuain has also had his beautiful games in a Juve shirt in the CL BUT he has also been carrying us in Italy for two years. Yet there are people thinking Morata is better.

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TheLaz

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Why would it be a choice between Dybala and Higuain? Last time I checked Juve haven't been in red so why do we have to sell any of them?
Playing Dybala as a CF is a utopia some users believe in. He doesn't have a right foot, is relatively weak physically and can't head the ball so what kind of CF is he? Give me an example of a player similar to Dybala playing as a lone striker. No, Griezmann ain't one as ATM has always played 442 and he had the likes of Raul Garcia, Costa or Torres next to him so very physical players. The only player that comes to my mind is Messi but I'm not sure if it's worth it to compare Dybala to Messi.
Even if somebody offered 50mln for Pipa we should not sell. He's a top striker that has one of the best goal ratio in Juve history. Yet some people are ready to replace him with Dybala who's not even a CF or Morata who's been a failure so far in his career. He scored some important goals for Juve but let's be serious, he was more like a cherry on top in his first season here while in the second he only had cameos like the City or Bayern game. Higuain has also had his beautiful games in a Juve shirt in the CL BUT he has also been carrying us in Italy for two years. Yet there are people thinking Morata is better.

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Firmino. Dat dere CL finalist attack
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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Problem with SMS is they will reject anything under €100m.

Any bids of €100m or above will probably be considered. Preferably they don't want him to end up here. In a bidding tie we will always be rejected..

We sell Sandro or Higuain for €50-60m and spend the €40m budget just to make Lazio listen.. United will offer €110m just like that..
They will get 100m for him the same way as Torino got for Belotti.

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The Quazis

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Firmino. Dat dere CL finalist attack
Dat dere attack who almost finished 5th in BPL and were lucky Salah has had the season of his life. Their route to the CL final has also been extremely lucky. Plus, Liverpool plays counter attacking football and is clueless against teams that close the shop.

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TheLaz

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Dat dere attack who almost finished 5th in BPL and were lucky Salah has had the season of his life. Their route to the CL final has also been extremely lucky. Plus, Liverpool plays counter attacking football and is clueless against teams that close the shop.

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I think Salah got lucky to play for a team that has the teammates and a tactical setup to make him succeed. If you have a Firmino/Dybala kind of false 9, the wingers will score much more goals as they receive good balls. If you have a classic CF you want your wingers to pass and cross. Liverpool is lethal bc you don't know who will strike. And if you have 3 to look out for it's inevitable they will score at some point.
 

duranfj

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Jul 30, 2015
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Why would it be a choice between Dybala and Higuain? Last time I checked Juve haven't been in red so why do we have to sell any of them?
Playing Dybala as a CF is a utopia some users believe in. He doesn't have a right foot, is relatively weak physically and can't head the ball so what kind of CF is he? Give me an example of a player similar to Dybala playing as a lone striker. No, Griezmann ain't one as ATM has always played 442 and he had the likes of Raul Garcia, Costa or Torres next to him so very physical players. The only player that comes to my mind is Messi but I'm not sure if it's worth it to compare Dybala to Messi.
Even if somebody offered 50mln for Pipa we should not sell. He's a top striker that has one of the best goal ratio in Juve history. Yet some people are ready to replace him with Dybala who's not even a CF or Morata who's been a failure so far in his career. He scored some important goals for Juve but let's be serious, he was more like a cherry on top in his first season here while in the second he only had cameos like the City or Bayern game. Higuain has also had his beautiful games in a Juve shirt in the CL BUT he has also been carrying us in Italy for two years. Yet there are people thinking Morata is better.

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Pipa can't play back to defense, hold a ball, win an aerial duel, overrun a defense... what kind of CF he is?

Carry us? he's less impact in our game plan and less goals and assists than other players... any site would show u our stats per players, visit them
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Tiem for us to acquiesce Marotta's midfield plans: Can as a starter and soem off-the-shelf italian serie a $#@!ter as depth. The big splash on midfield is utopia.

The apologists will liekly defend it by soem Marotta'esque newspeak about a tough market, we don't enter bidding wars, we are in a special situation, Bonaventura is better than Sturaro and so on.
Bonaventura is not a bad player at all but if he or Can are supposed to be our midfield Higuain...

I'd like Bonaventura or Florenzi as a handy man instead of Sturaro 'though.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
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Bonaventura is not a bad player at all but if he or Can are supposed to be our midfield Higuain...

I'd like Bonaventura or Florenzi as a handy man instead of Sturaro 'though.
There's a distinct difference between being "not a bad player" and good enough to strengthen our midfield.
 
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Unless we are buying another top forward we aren't selling Higuain. I just can't see who is the guy we could get to play CF and I don't see the point of having offensive fullbacks and top wingers if you are not an aerial threat.

Maybe PSG has to do some transfers because of FFP and internal problems between players? But out of the whole team I would like only Mbappe and Kimpembe...

Griezmann is pure stupidity. We don't need another leftie.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
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TS indicate that Buffon, Barzagli & Chiellini are pushing Florenzi to join Juve. They had even joked during their meetups at Coverciano while on international duty. Florenzi has never said no to the prospect of joining Juve because he has a strong desire to win trophies.

Florenzi has an expiring contract and he's represented by the same entourage as Perin.

Juventus have already made enthusiastic contacts with Florenzi's entourage and will try to sign him but such an operation won't be easy to close.

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Tuttosport report that Juventus are concretely interested in Morata and Martial.

Juventus CEO, Marotta wants to immediately see Morata/Martial with Higuaín and not as the latter's replacement.

Juve have already started planning for Pipita's successor in the future.


Juve have already established contacts with Chelsea & Manchester United.

Marotta wants to sign Morata or Martial to Turin in order to immediately see one of them feature with Higuaín in the near future. If Pipita leaves, Juve may think of signing both Morata & Martial.

The negotiations for Morata, which initially seemed complicated, is now getting simpler. Chelsea are open to loan him with an obligation to redeem for an expensive fee. Chelsea signed him for €80m and have no intention to sell him for less than €60m.

With loan and a mandatory obligation, Chelsea would be avoiding a loss on Morata. An operation similar to Cuadrado.

If Juventus can find an agreement with Chelsea, Morata would hurriedly return to Turin and would not even think of other proposals.


Martial could be tempted by proposals from PSG and Bayern but the negotiations with Manchester United are easier for Juventus in comparison to talks with Chelsea for Morata.
 
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