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Sjaban

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Dec 29, 2012
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Yea what's more than that is that Milan know how to play in the CL, that's a fact, thts why we're 2/7 in finals and their 7/11. If Milan ever gets into a situation like we were in 15 or 17, they win one if not both easily. We cannot play in Europe, we buy CL flops and hope they magically help us win it. Our Euro mentality is a joke, theirs is not, end of story
How is our euro mentality a joke, we've managed to get to two finals in 3 years with good defensive records. In those two finals we just faced two teams that are simply better than us. Real Madrid, their squad is probably the most balanced team in the world from the back to the front. Also they are at their peak at the moment. Same with Barcelona two years ago.

Our management has managed to do the impossible within 5 years time to get us from 7th place finishes back to winning domestically and get to two CL finals. And you know what the best part of all, they managed to do it with the limited funds they had at their disposal at the time. If that doesn't indicate how good our management is than I don't know what does...

The 2015 CL final squad almost cost us nothing. I'm convinced that other than Beppe, no director at any other club would've managed this. Heck look at all these idiotic directors running around at other clubs like Woodward, they can only work with huge war chests of transfer funds...

I'm quite proud of what our management has achieved considering the situation we are/were in. Beats watching our Serie B games and poor serie a seasons after we got back..


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Stephan

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100 million. French champion. Monaco won Ligue 1 last season. Mbappe :donedeal: @Fr3sh @Mark
I would love this and would totally forget about this Bonucci transfer if this happened. But in reality it will be probably Matuidi or that nutcase rightback of PSGs.

I really do think Mbappe is the real deal.

But it seems kind of unrealistic at this stage. What position would he play in our system?
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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How is our euro mentality a joke, we've managed to get to two finals in 3 years with good defensive records. In those two finals we just faced two teams that are simply better than us. Real Madrid, their squad is probably the most balanced team in the world from the back to the front. Also they are at their peak at the moment. Same with Barcelona two years ago.

Our management has managed to do the impossible within 5 years time to get us from 7th place finishes back to winning domestically and get to two CL finals. And you know what the best part of all, they managed to do it with the limited funds they had at their disposal at the time. If that doesn't indicate how good our management is than I don't know what does...

The 2015 CL final squad almost cost us nothing. I'm convinced that other than Beppe, no director at any other club would've managed this. Heck look at all these idiotic directors running around at other clubs like Woodward, they can only work with huge war chests of transfer funds...

I'm quite proud of what our management has achieved considering the situation we are/were in. Beats watching our Serie B games and poor serie a seasons after we got back..


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Atletico 2014 was quite similar.


And they also sell their key/big name players every now and then like D. Costa, Courtois, Turan, Mandzukic,
 

kao_ray

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I would love this and would totally forget about this Bonucci transfer if this happened. But in reality it will be probably Matuidi or that nutcase rightback of PSGs.

I really do think Mbappe is the real deal.

But it seems kind of unrealistic at this stage. What position would he play in our system?
Higuain is 29, Cuadrado is 29, Mandzukic is 31, he could play in their positions. We can't field the same 4 in attack over and over again, and he is quite versatile. If we break the transfer record for him, we'll be sending a massive message that we are here to rаpe and pillаge. :agree:
 

Stephan

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Higuain is 29, Cuadrado is 29, Mandzukic is 31, he could play in their positions. We can't field the same 4 in attack over and over again, and he is quite versatile. If we break the transfer record for him, we'll be sending a massive message that we are here to rаpe and pillаge. :agree:
Those 3 wont even start, Costa will start instead of one of Cuadrado or Mandzu. We will still go for Bernardeschi it seems. Benching Higuain after one season when he is one of the most expensive signings ever makes no sense?
 

Pirlo's Beard

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Oct 2, 2013
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On a serious note, i think we should look out for any rumours, cos even the most ridiculous rumour such as bonucci leaving for peanuts or juve paying higgy's release clause came true
Bonucci - Milan in the space of like 36 hours has to be the most surreal transfer. My brain hasn't still accepted it. Not because i'm devastated it's just beyond all logic.
So he argues with players, one of which his partner in crime Barzagli. Gets booted out, to our fucking rivals who finished 6th place, for 40M euros spread out over 3 years in a market where players half as valuable go for more to non-rivals.

Now imagine us buying a top player in his prime from a Serie A club. Oh wait. We did. And we were told to fuck off so clearly that we had to pay his 90m release clause.
 
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Wow. There's an Italian player you don't rate, Astori must really suck :p
I don't rate all Italian players. I just think that a strong domestic strategy is important. Also I'd be fine with Astori if he was a bench player, but not as a replacement for Bonucci. Also, I find that in Italy promising players are given chances much later due to the conservative nature of coaching where avoiding mistakes is the number one priority.

Ideally for me:
- The base of the team is Italian, constructed of the best players in each position that are good enough for Juventus. If two players are equal, go Italian. If one player is better but international, but the other has similar potential is domestic, but not as far on the development curve, go domestic.
- Where players good enough for Juventus cannot be found or are impossible to acquire, international players should be put in that position. For example: Leftback and Midfield. Other than Verratti, the remaining midfield talent is either past its prime (De Rossi, Marchisio), too raw to play in the 11 (Gagliardini, Pellegrini), or not good enough (Parolo).
- The bench should be a mix of young domestic players, and veterans with good personalities, primarily Italian.

Also, it is crucial to keep the core of teams together over multiple years, like Bayern. Annual shake-ups are dangerous. At least that's how I prefer my teams.

Just to be clear: THE LAST THING I'D WANT is a team with a starting 11 that includes: Parolo, Montolivo, Astori, Abate, Criscito, and Immobile.
 
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