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Liviu

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Guys a question.
If we get Douglas Costa we'll use on of the non-eu slot right?
But if we sell a non eu-player such as Neto,Rincon,Cuadrado or Dani Alves we'll gain a second slot right?!?

My question is why can't we both go for Fabinho and Douglas Costa?!?! and newspapers saying if you buy Fabinho you can't buy Costa.
I mean wtf?! how does it work in the end?

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Btw Selling Alex Sandro would kill this mercato no matter who you bring in.
Just double his salary and keep him good. He must stay at least 2 more years.
Dani Alves is EU player, spanish citizen and Neto & Rincon were brought from serie A so I think different rules.
 

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JuveJay

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Guys a question.
If we get Douglas Costa we'll use on of the non-eu slot right?
But if we sell a non eu-player such as Neto,Rincon,Cuadrado or Dani Alves we'll gain a second slot right?!?

My question is why can't we both go for Fabinho and Douglas Costa?!?! and newspapers saying if you buy Fabinho you can't buy Costa.
I mean wtf?! how does it work in the end?
No it's not a one in, one out rule, it's two per season. In theory we could have an entire team of non-EU players after 6 seasons, were it not for the concurrent home grown/national grown rules.
 
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No it's not a one in, one out rule, it's two per season. In theory we could have an entire team of non-EU players after 6 seasons, were it not for the concurrent home grown/national grown rules.
Not really. There is a complicated system for the maximum amount of non-EU slots in a team. Haven't gone through the details, but its even more difficult to get players that don't have a lot of NT appearances. The limits are imposed in order to promote the development of Italian talent, but either we will see the product in 10+ years or it will be repealed.
 

DUKAC

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Feb 29, 2012
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Calciomercato.it link us to.... ZLATAN!
I guess we really dont want to win the CL... It would be funny if we do get him and he deliveres what is missing... Anyway the link says it is still more likely that he will end in the MLS instead..
In any case I dont know if Zlatan can fit here as he isnt fast so will slow the tempo which isnt a good thing but also 4-2-3-1 the only place he fits is Higuain`s position or Dybala`s position (even though not exactly a perfect match) so it seems like a great deal of bullshit
Keep Juve avay from that mercenary.......
 

JuveJay

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Not really. There is a complicated system for the maximum amount of non-EU slots in a team. Haven't gone through the details, but its even more difficult to get players that don't have a lot of NT appearances. The limits are imposed in order to promote the development of Italian talent, but either we will see the product in 10+ years or it will be repealed.
I was considering things like naturalisation, and assuming international players, but the system can be manipulated anyway because of registering to associate clubs.
 

TheLaz

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CM: Last season Renato Sanches was bought from Benfica for a monstrous figure of 35 million EUR, an investment that Bayern will have to protect in every way possible. However, the central midfielder has not been able to convince Ancelotti with his agent Jorge Mendes who has already made it clear to the German club that he wants more playing time, and the introduction of Tolisso does not leave too many guarantees. Thus, ideas of a two-year loan, with a right to purchase (though at quite high figures), are increasingly growing. A solution is being studied at the Bayern headquarters, which would allow the German club to protect their investment, but keep the player happy. But if he was to move, it appears that Juve are in pole position, ready to do what is necessary to persuade the player.
 
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I was considering things like naturalisation, and assuming international players, but the system can be manipulated anyway because of registering to associate clubs.
Yeah, but even when you buy a non-eu player with 'Ascoli' and say 'loan him' to Juve he still takes a non-eu slot, no? Besides from all the EU passport - the Italian isn't the easiest one to get. 10 years is one's football career though and through. So even the 'manipulations' are somehow limited. Of course there is the famous italian ancestry - half the world is probably italian on such terms.
 

JuveJay

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Yeah, but even when you buy a non-eu player with 'Ascoli' and say 'loan him' to Juve he still takes a non-eu slot, no? Besides from all the EU passport - the Italian isn't the easiest one to get.
I think what teams do now is sign their 2 non-EU players in the summer, then if they want to get an advantage on one for next season they sign the third player in January, loan him to smaller domestic club, then register him next season to their squad, where he then counts as a foreign player moving from a fellow Serie A club, so doesn't count against the quote.

The earliest example I remember of this was when Inter signed Maxwell from Ajax and registered him to Empoli in January. They also did the same with Julio Cesar and Chievo.
 

The Quazis

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Chelsea/Conte going hard for Sandro it seems. 50mln + bonuses might arrive in the next few days.

We're linked with Di Pardo. Milan also wants him. Sky

Valencia's first bid for Neto is official: 7mln euros. We're asking for 10-12
First they report an offer of 60mln and few days later Chelsea is going hard with an offer of 50mln plus bonuses :baus:

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Luftwaffles

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Dec 1, 2005
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Referring to the current transfer programme being conducted by Juventus, it is beginning to look like there is less of a likelihood of a "big name" signing by the end of the tfr window and that there is, conversely, every chance of at least one, probably two of our key core players will be sold to Chelsea and others.

For a number of days now I have been sensing a whiff of something not quite right about the 'transfer strategy' particularly the inability to bring to a satisfactory conclusion supposed negotiations on a few targets that we have been undertaken over the last 14/28 days.

The Costa, N'Zonzi, Bernardeschi cases are typical of what looks like a hamfisted performance by Marotta.

The Schick thing, still unconfirmed, looks to be dragging on and on.

Worse, despite the largesse we have to spend, we are unable to be linked with the kind of players - in any part of our our formation, whether it be defenders, midfielders or attackers, that would take us to the next level.

Something is not right.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Referring to the current transfer programme being conducted by Juventus, it is beginning to look like there is less of a likelihood of a "big name" signing by the end of the tfr window and that there is, conversely, every chance of at least one, probably two of our key core players will be sold to Chelsea and others.

For a number of days now I have been sensing a whiff of something not quite right about the 'transfer strategy' particularly the inability to bring to a satisfactory conclusion supposed negotiations on a few targets that we have been undertaken over the last 14/28 days.

The Costa, N'Zonzi, Bernardeschi cases are typical of what looks like a hamfisted performance by Marotta.

The Schick thing, still unconfirmed, looks to be dragging on and on.

Worse, despite the largesse we have to spend, we are unable to be linked with the kind of players - in any part of our our formation, whether it be defenders, midfielders or attackers, that would take us to the next level.

Something is not right.
Shick is practically done.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Referring to the current transfer programme being conducted by Juventus, it is beginning to look like there is less of a likelihood of a "big name" signing by the end of the tfr window and that there is, conversely, every chance of at least one, probably two of our key core players will be sold to Chelsea and others.

For a number of days now I have been sensing a whiff of something not quite right about the 'transfer strategy' particularly the inability to bring to a satisfactory conclusion supposed negotiations on a few targets that we have been undertaken over the last 14/28 days.

The Costa, N'Zonzi, Bernardeschi cases are typical of what looks like a hamfisted performance by Marotta.

The Schick thing, still unconfirmed, looks to be dragging on and on.

Worse, despite the largesse we have to spend, we are unable to be linked with the kind of players - in any part of our our formation, whether it be defenders, midfielders or attackers, that would take us to the next level.

Something is not right.
Fucking lol this guy.

1) We arent signing a big name. Because you guys (and i'm using the words guys cause i'm on 8 points) will not consider anything a big player unless its Ronaldo nazario prime shitting all over messi.
2) We arent selling our core players by default. We received offers, and we arent selling them. Pirlo quit football. Tevez quit professional football for family reasons to play in the argentina amateur ligue. Vidal wanted out. Pogba wanted out. Currently all players have said they want to stay at some point.
3) You sense a whiff based on what papers write. Nice job brah.

4) we evaluate winger and cm options.
CM : We dont want tolisso. We look at fabinho and Nzonzi. latter has a clause. We are looking at selling Lemina, Rincon.
WInger : we are looking at bernardeschi, douglas costa, keita. Two our of three are raping their club cause only want juve. We dont know the situation with Cuadrado
Rightback : alves deciced to fuck off. we now also need a rightback. need to be efficient moneywise on winger and cm

seems pretty straightforward to me.

5) schick is undergoing his fucking medical. learn to read what the club does and says instead of newspapers

6) We are the final level, there is no next level. You just want ronaldo or its fucking shit brah.

7) yes, you.

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I'm all in for Renato:

Defensive midfielder.
Black.
Dreads.



...just get him some sunglasses.
Renato is not a defensive midfielder roflmao

he's an offensive b2b



Who is spreading this shit that he's a dm ? I've seen other posters say this too. Who is the pathogen ?
 

NitK

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Jul 22, 2008
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Renato is not a defensive midfielder roflmao

he's an offensive b2b



Who is spreading this $#@! that he's a dm ? I've seen other posters say this too. Who is the pathogen ?
I thought if I use universal CM in the description that people would say DAVIDS WAS A DM NOT B2B CM!

...but it backfired the other way lmao
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I thought if I use universal CM in the description that people would say DAVIDS WAS A DM NOT B2B CM!

...but it backfired the other way lmao
Yeah but the thing is, we really need a classy cdm that defends the box and domminates the midfield

Sanchez is fine if we play a 3man midfield and we want the role that vidal played in his most offensive times. But he's not defensive. And thats what we need.

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I get the feeling people actual want him because he looks cool and has an eye-catching style of play.

If so, lol.
Thats 99% of the hype really
 
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