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Dujj

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Anyone who wouldn't take Di Maria is crazy. Absolute perfect player for us versatile, CL experienced, talented, and willing to track back type winger.

Even if he has been a bit disinterested lately Juve will turn him into a machine as we do every player who comes here.
Every players? Cuadrado is nowhere near a machine tho. And while Mandzu does well, he's nowhere near his Bayern's form where he actually was a machine under Jupp.

If it happens, I'm curious to see if Di Maria will finally make it. I mean: regular performances throughout a whole season. Something he's actually never done till now (minus maybe that season under ancelotti, and even so, not the whole season. People tend to overrate it because he did awesome in CL that particular year).
 

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Every players? Cuadrado is nowhere near a machine tho. And while Mandzu does well, he's nowhere near his Bayern's form where he actually was a machine under Jupp.

If it happens, I'm curious to see if Di Maria will finally make it. I mean: regular performances throughout a whole season. Something he's actually never done till now (minus maybe that season under ancelotti, and even so, not the whole season. People tend to overrate it because he did awesome in CL that particular year).
I don't follow. The problem with Cuadrado has never been his workrate it is his shit end product and inconsistent form and of course Mandzukic can't run like he used to he isn't 26 anymore. Manbro is 31
 

Dujj

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I don't follow. The problem with Cuadrado has never been his workrate it is his $#@! end product and inconsistent form and of course Mandzukic can't run like he used to he isn't 26 anymore. Manbro is 31
You said every players. Just pointed out two cases that prove it false whatever the excuses are.

Your reply is even worse. You actually admit that going to Juve didn't change Cuadrado. He still has his defaults that plague him.

Not trying to be a d*ck here. Just saying Juve is not God. Some players can do better, but no 100% chance they will erase their handicaps to become machines just because they come to Juve.
 

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You said every players. Just pointed out two cases that prove it false whatever the excuses are.

Your reply is even worse. You actually admit that going to Juve didn't change Cuadrado. He still has his defaults that plague him.

Not trying to be a d*ck here. Just saying Juve is not God. Some players can do better, but no 100% chance they will erase their handicaps to become machines just because they come to Juve.
Maybe i should have been clearer. By machine I meant they become focused and hard working which Manduzkic and Cuadrado definitely are. I never said it would make Mandzukic younger or provide Cuadrado a brain.
 

Dujj

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Maybe i should have been clearer. By machine I meant they become focused and hard working which Manduzkic and Cuadrado definitely are. I never said it would make Mandzukic younger or provide Cuadrado a brain.
Di Maria's workrate is through the roof at PSG compared to what he did in ManU or most of his bad years in Madrid.

That didn't change some facts. Sometimes he plays alone, ignoring his teammates. Sometimes he can do 50 crosses that never ends up where he wants. Sometimes he misses the target repeatedly 10 games in a row.

Also, he doesn't defend much in 90% of the games despite a coach that yelled at him about that a lot.

Do you really think there's 100% chance it will change? He might improve, but he definitely might not.

With all due respect, even if you ignore PSG, and ManU, this dude played in Madrid. It isn't as if it doesn't count. And what most Madrid fans remember the most are his bad surnames he got because of all his defaults.

I admit, I've lost all hopes about Di Maria. If he changes by joining Juve, then great, but sorry I don't expect much.
 
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Di Maria's workrate is through the roof at PSG compared to what he did in ManU or most of his bad years in Madrid.

That didn't change some facts. Sometimes he plays alone, ignoring his teammates. Sometimes he can do 50 crosses that never ends up where he wants. Sometimes he misses the target repeatedly 10 games in a row.

Also, he doesn't defend much in 90% of the games despite a coach that yelled on him about that a lot.

Do you really think there's 100% change it will change? He might improve, but he definitely might not.

With all due respect, even if you ignore PSG, and ManU, this dude played in Madrid. It isn't as if it doesn't count.

I admit, I've lost all hopes about Di Maria. If he changes by joining Juve, then great, but sorry I don't expect much.
Pretty much any player would always work harder for Juve than for PSG that should be pretty clear to everyone. It's just down to the difference in game style and mentality.

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Do you still think Buffon is retiring or something? :shifty:
After 2018 WC.
 

Dujj

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Pretty much any player would always work harder for Juve than for PSG that should be pretty clear to everyone. It's just down to the difference in game style and mentality.
that's why I said you can ignore PSG, and ManU.

That doesn't explain why no coaches in Madrid were able to make him step up.

As I said, even when he managed to help Madrid to win the CL, even under Ancelotti who's not a clown, he had his same bad moments in the regular season.

It's too easy to point PSG, and ignore what happened before it in those world class historic clubs that are even bigger than Juve in the case of Real, with monstruous coaches.

And I dislike Real Madrid, but still. It's as if it doesn't count or as if Real Madrdid was crap, "oh well guys, Juve is better he will change here".

As I said, might happen. I wish for it. But it remains to be seen.
 

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that's why I said you can ignore PSG, and ManU.

That doesn't explain why no coaches in Madrid were able to make him step up.

As I said, even when he managed to help Madrid to win the CL, even under Ancelotti who's not a clown, he had his same bad moments in the regular season.

It's too easy to point PSG, and ignore what happened before it in those world class historic clubs that are even bigger than Juve in the case of Real, with monstruous coaches.

And I dislike Real Madrid, but still. It's as if it doesn't count or as if Real Madrdid was crap, "oh well guys, Juve is better he will change here".

As I said, might happen. I wish for it. But it remains to be seen.
I would rather let him improve in PSG next few years, then we should consider buying him :)
 

Dujj

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I would rather let him improve in PSG next few years, then we should consider buying him :)
He would not stay at PSG if I had to choose.

I follow PSG, and I want him gone.

I follow Juve, and I would prefer them to avoid him, because there's more chances that he will stay the same rather than do better than his best years in Madrid.

If I'm wrong, I'll have no problem to admit him. But so far, the Beheaded Chicken surname still fits him more than ever.
 
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that's why I said you can ignore PSG, and ManU.

That doesn't explain why no coaches in Madrid were able to make him step up.

As I said, even when he managed to help Madrid to win the CL, even under Ancelotti who's not a clown, he had his same bad moments in the regular season.

It's too easy to point PSG, and ignore what happened before it in those world class historic clubs that are even bigger than Juve in the case of Real, with monstruous coaches.

And I dislike Real Madrid, but still. It's as if it doesn't count or as if Real Madrdid was crap, "oh well guys, Juve is better he will change here".

As I said, might happen. I wish for it. But it remains to be seen.
I'm not saying he will improve his consistency here but he will definitely work really hard each and every game. Our game is based on work-rate and defensive solidity. We have a good track record of getting the best out of these kind of players.
 

Dujj

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I'm not saying he will improve his consistency here but he will definitely work really hard each and every game. Our game is based on work-rate and defensive solidity. We have a good track record of getting the best out of these kind of players.
As Hermel who follows Madrid would say, Di Maria actually is the type of player that likes to be free.

That's why it didn't work at all under Van Gaal for example.

Juve, imo, is the kind of club that has a plan, and players that stay true to the plan the coach put on the table. Di Maria seems to not have a brain compatible to that - till now.

It would be the biggest change in his entire career if Di Maria actually be that disciplined. If you think Juve will surely manage to do it, ok then fine, spend big on him, I raise my hands, and give up on that topic.

Also, Di Maria, and defensive efforts so far don't match at all.
 
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    he can't defend though. If it means we'll bring him in as LM/RM back up - fine, rather him than Stu or Lemina on the wings, but if we plan to use him as Alex Sandro back - not sure. In that case i'd rather keep Asa.
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