Summer mercato thread 2017-18 (71 Viewers)

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Dujj

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Jun 4, 2017
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Forgot to talk about Matuidi:

- PSG sent him a first offer for a renewal a few months ago. Matuidi thought it was too low, and refused.

- Recently, PSG offered him more, BUT added that "if he wants to leave, they will not go against it"

- Matuidi actually didn't take it well, and replied in the medias that "It's cool that they offered more, but I feel bad that they said I could leave if I want, because when PSG really wants to keep a player, they leave no open door".. Emery said he wants him to stay tho, but PSG's board think otherwise.

Therefore, he's on the market if other clubs are interested.
 

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SrdanPopovic

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Lots of respect towards Mark here, and everyone, but it isn't that easy with PSG.

Italian medias don't seem to rely some infos about Di Maria.

- He had a diner with Emery where he said that he likes to live in Paris, and that if the club still wants him, he'll stay. Emery also wants to keep him. https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Angel-di-maria-veut-rester-au-psg/806675

- While it's true Mendes or Raiola have a lot of influence around the world (of football), PSG, as said above, is a pain even for them. Raiola wanted Matuidi to be sold to Juve. He tried very very hard. When Nasser said "no", he couldn't do anything. It's the same with Mendes with a little difference. Mendes is not in great terms with PSG. Meaning PSG's board is even more of a pain. Also, we know from insiders/journalists that know him well (for example, Nicolas Vilas) that Antero Henrique is not in great terms with Mendes either. While he will still deal with him professionally, Henrique said to PSG's board that he will not bend over to mendes.

So no, just asking Mendes or Raiola is not enough in the case of PSG. But people are free to believe what they want of course. But so far, I assure you PSG has no intention to sell Di Maria. As I said, it can change, but neither the player or PSG want to stop their cooperation right now.
Thats super cool, you made my day brother :nico:
 

Gagi

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Jul 19, 2007
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Hi everyone,

Newbie on Juventuz here, French also. Got interested in Juve when Pogba was there. Followed the club since, but mainly focusing in watching the French League games, and what happens during the Mercato here in France.

I read this forum for a long time now, and thought I could share some insights of what can happen this year since it seems the big leagues are very interested in players from the French league (like every year, but even more this summer because Monaco reached the CL semi-finals)

Hope people won't mind, here it is anyways.

I didn't see any mention of it from what I read here, but you guys should understand that there's no release clause in contracts in France. It's forbidden to have any of those, and even if some clubs pretend that they have some, said clauses are not recognized by the french LFP (one of the reason said clauses doesn't exist is also linked to the French Labor Law related to the fixed-term contracts)

Therefore, when you hear that Fabinho from Monaco has a 50M euros release clause, or that Seri from Nice has a 40M release clause, it can only be Gentlemen agreements between their clubs, and the players' agents. Meaning that neither Monaco or Nice are tied to it. If they don't want to sell Fabinho to said, PSG, even if PSG offers 50M, they have the right to refuse, and no one can do anything about it.

While it can sound bad, it actually helps some french clubs in keeping their best players. We are actually talking mainly about PSG here. No PSG player has any release clause, meaning that if any foreign journalists or medias pretend that verratti or rabiot have a release clause, it's false, misinformation or plain lies. Also above that, PSG's president said many times that he is against any gentlemen agreements of this kind (Donato Di Campli tried hard to reach a gentlemen agreement last year about a release clause for Verratti. PSG's president didn't give in, and so Verratti has no release clause at all.).

Now let's talk about how the big french Clubs react to the mercato:

- Nice. Nice has no urgent need for money, but ultimately they are a selling club. If somebody opens the door and offers +40M for seri (for example), they'll sell. They also have a very nice board that has no big grudge against anyone (besides the rivalry between clubs from the same region of course, but even so, they will not say No to a big offer from Marseille if it ever comes to that). They are trying to become bigger, and so are also trying to keep their best players, so they will only listen to big offers.

- Monaco. They have no need for money this year. Despite an awful empty stadium that doesn't earn them much money, they did well, and really are in no need of money. Despite that, their board never hid that they are also a selling club if two conditions are met: 1, A big offer. 2, A player that wants to leave. A few days ago, their vice-president said it again, "we will no go against a player's will. If somebody wants to leave, we will listen. But it doesn't mean we will accept any offer". Like Nice, they are also trying to keep their best players by offering them new contracts, or via their agents. For example, so far, they seem to have succeeded about Mbappé who wants to stay one more year. Also, their board wants to avoid selling players to PSG. So while PSG is very interested in Mbappé or Fabinho, it would take a gigantic offer to make them budge. So far they plan to sell only a maximum of 4 of their main players this summer. Bernardo already left, so now it's 3.

- PSG. No wild card here, PSG's board doesn't want to sell any of their main players, and they are incredibly hard to deal with, which is seen as a problem by some people (some players agent by example), and their President is totally capable to refuse any offer, or change his mind at will. Remember the Matuidi's fiasco. The main change this summer is that they got a new Director of Football (Antero Henrique), and he asked, and obtained all rights to deal with PSG's players, and staff management. He's already clashing with PSG's president because of that :lol:, because Nasser seems to like playing to Real Life Football Manager. For example, he had a done deal to buy Aubameyang, but Henrique said "hell no. I don't recognize any agreement you've done before I arrived. And I don't want Aubameyang". If it wasn't for him, the deal would be official already. That doesn't mean he will not change his mind, but he prefers to chase other players for now, and will deal with Dortmund himself if he changes his mind about Aubameyang. LeParisien revealed today that PSG plans to spend as much as 220M euros during the summer+winter mercatos without having the need to sell any player.

Which leads to what you are interested here in what's possible this summer for Juve (I don't mean miracles can't happen, but let's be realistic for now)

- Fabinho could happen, but Juve would not be the only club chasing him. It's up to Beppe to convince him. Monaco won't block this move if they think the fee is right, and if the player is ok with it. Remember that the 50M release clause is still a rumor, not a fact, and that said clause can't be bind to a player's contract in France.

- Lemar. Could be sold too. Monaco's board doesn't do the same as they are doing with Mbappe. No reason they would refuse a big offer. That said, Vasilyev, and Jardim like the player a lot. Could still renew if no incredible offer are made from big clubs.

- Bakayoko. Could be sold. Arguably the less talented player for Monaco's star. Also can have a bad tongue. PSG wanted to start discussion, and he said "in the medias" that he don't plan to join a club that is ranked behind Monaco. Kind of a stupid comment because he seemed confident that he would get a ton of offers, which actually didn't happen. Since then, he seems to shut the f... up, which is better for his career.

- Falcao. Renewed till 2020. Not on the market unless Monaco gets an incredible offer.

- Mendy. Everyone here thinks he will be sold. Prolly one of Monaco's players that got the most offers. Still didn't choose where he wanna go. He will probably not be in Monaco for long tho. Also,, Monaco wants a very big offer. And they refused a lot so far (for example, City tried, City failed).

- Seri. Same as above but easier to get.

- Verratti is a no go. Unless something really bad happens in Qatar, and they starts selling PSG's assets, no club should expect verratti to move:

1) Verratti likes PSG, and Paris, and won't force a move. When Spanish Sport expects him to force a move, they are 100% lying. Even Di Campli said he won't go against PSG.

2) Verratti is bound to PSG till 2021 (in France, a contract can't be longer than 5 years (if you're wondering why he didn't sign for more), hence why PSG renews Verratti's contract every year (sometimes twice a year). PSG's also plan to renew him again till 2022 this summer), so verratti's agent has no leverage here.

3) While Henrique can now decide who to buy/sell, there's no reason he would sell PSG's best player. And still, PSG's president can still start a ruckus, and block any transfer he doesn't like.

4) Do not believe foreign medias rumors. We have a few individuals in France that are close to people from PSG, and there is 0 report that PSG left any open door about Verratti. If that changes, you will hear about it from medias like LEquipe, LeParisien, or CulturePSG. Don't waste your time with spanish, or english press. They know nothing.

- Aurier. Henrique, and Emery want to sell him. PSG's president doesn't want to. So far, the situation is that if Henrique find a replacement, Aurier will probably be sold. If not, they will keep him.

- Marquinhos. Contract lasts by 2019. While it sounds good... His agent tried hard to find a way for him to get "at least" the right to starts a discussion about him being sold. So far PSG refused any kind of transfer discussion. If Marquinhos still didn't renew, it's mainly Kluivert's fault. Kluivert messed up with almost anything he has done so far at PSG. Since then, Nasser did the job alone, and given what marquinhos said in LeParisien a few weeks ago. He will be a PSG player next year, and will probably get a new contract with the club. On that, Henrique, and Nasser seems to get along. No one at PSG want to sell Marquinhos. Therefore, they threw away all the offers they got, mainly from the two manchester teams, and Barcelone.

- Cavani. Renewed recently. Won't leave.

- Thiago Silva, same as above.

- Kimpembe. He wants to be a PSG's player. PSG is not selling him anyways.

- Rabiot, same situation as Marquinhos. Seems to want to stay despite being less vocal than Marquinhos. Also said he plans to be PSG's captain one day.

- Di Maria. PSG wans't planning to keep him, but they changed their mind after the last few months of the season. Solid rumors spread that they had a deal with Mendes about a gigantic offer from China, but in the end, PSG changed its mind. From recent infos, he isn't on the market. Will rely any infos if it changes.

If you are interested in informations from French medias, I can provide them when I have the time. If you want me to cross-check rumors/infos with what is reported in France, PM me. If you are interested in a player's situation in the French League, I can also provide them if you need any.

Awesome stuff here. Welcome aboard buddy.
 

Dujj

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Jun 4, 2017
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Thats super cool, you made my day brother :nico:
Well, from what is said in France, 50% of PSG fanbase wants to sell him, while 50% wants to keep him.

If I had to give my personal opinion, they should sell if they can get somebody that doesn't disappear for a 3/4 of a season, and only shows up for 2-3 months only.

But PSG despite an enormous warchest this summer has a lot of difficulties to sign any superstars. Hence why they don't want to sell first without getting any replacement.

There were also rumors that the transfer of Guedes (30M on a crappy player, anyone right in its mind know it's fishy) was part of a deal to make Mendes sell Di Maria for a record fee (at the time, it was linked to rumors about China clubs offerring a fortune). But even if there's any truth to it, the situation is not the same anymore.
 

Powis

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Dec 9, 2009
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Forgot to talk about Matuidi:

- PSG sent him a first offer for a renewal a few months ago. Matuidi thought it was too low, and refused.

- Recently, PSG offered him more, BUT added that "if he wants to leave, they will not go against it"

- Matuidi actually didn't take it well, and replied in the medias that "It's cool that they offered more, but I feel bad that they said I could leave if I want, because when PSG really wants to keep a player, they leave no open door".. Emery said he wants him to stay tho, but PSG's board think otherwise.

Therefore, he's on the market if other clubs are interested.
What club do you support yourself?
 

GIGIthebest

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Jul 25, 2014
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When's the Di Marzio show?

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Cant believe we will loose Keita to milan and Bernardeschi to Merda. :sergio: Marrota dissapointed Big Time

Leave Orsolini in squad and let him show what he knows
Yo is all you do complain? Just relax a little and trust the management, they've done well ever since being here, let them do their thing and wait it out a little before jumping to conclusions and complaining
 

Dujj

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Jun 4, 2017
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What club do you support yourself?
PSG, Monaco. More PSG than Monaco since I grew up near/in paris, but not a die hard fan like many, and actually wished many times that this PSG will crash and burn. Since Leonardo left, this club does all the wrong moves with this season being the pinnacle of the amateurs that run this club. Sure it's cool for die hard PSG fans that PSG retains their players. Would be better if they did a good job managing it and went in CL semi-finals even if it meant to lose Verratti or Thiago Silva.

Also really like Atlético de Madrid, Juve and Barcelona. I follow their news/watch their games whenever I have the time.
 

donpiero

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Jul 3, 2009
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What club do you support yourself?
He sounds like a frenchie Nostradamus. He's pro everything favors that league.
We say we want Di Maria, he comes up with some BS to crush that dream, and prove that PSG won't sell no matter what.
We say, Di Maria is junk and we're happy that they won't sell him, good riddance, he comes up with a new set of BS that there's a high probability that they might sell him afterall.
:lol2:
 

Dujj

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Jun 4, 2017
433
smells like psg?
Well, yeah. Still being fair in all my points tho. You won't see me defending PSG when they do sh*t. Or pretend a player won't be sold if there are solid infos about it. So do not worry.

And I actually wanted Matuidi to be sold to Juve last year! Not because he's a bad player, but because he doesn't fit how psg wants to play. Still, he's one of the few that gives everything on the field, and anyone not a retard can respect that a lot. I do.

But Matudi can't play in a team that spent the last 3 years trying to copy Barcelona's play style, while I think he would fit Juve or A.Madrid better. But I could be wrong.

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He sounds like a frenchie Nostradamus. He's pro everything favors that league.
We say we want Di Maria, he comes up with some BS to crush that dream, and prove that PSG won't sell no matter what.
We say, Di Maria is junk and we're happy that they won't sell him, good riddance, he comes up with a new set of BS that there's a high probability that they might sell him afterall.
:lol2:
Instead of making fun of me, if you want any source about what I wrote, just ask.

IF PSG is bothering you, you can find almost all of those informations there:

- https://twitter.com/psgunited6
- https://twitter.com/culturepsg
- And http://www.culturepsg.com

And Mark, you, and others can contact the people from those websites if you want. They have solid informations themselves, + they rely LEquipe and LeParisien.

Philo from CulturePSG for example, is really cool, and nice. If you have a question, mail him or ask him on twitter. You'll see by yourself.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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Well, yeah. Still being fair in all my points tho. You won't see me defending PSG when they do sh*t. Or pretend a player won't be sold if there are solid infos about it. So do not worry.

And I actually wanted Matuidi to be sold to Juve last year! Not because he's a bad player, but because he doesn't fit how psg wants to play. Still, he's one of the few that gives everything on the field, and anyone not a retard can respect that a lot. I do.

But Matudi can't play in a team that spent the last 3 years trying to copy Barcelona's play style, while I think he would fit Juve or A.Madrid better. But I could be wrong.
Welcome and thanks for the input. To be honest I dont want Matuidi or Di Maria here. In my opinion Matuidi is a good but not great player, he is 30 years old and really not the player we should be looking for. Di Maria is still a good player, but nothing like the player he was for Real under Ancelotti. In my opinion he would be Hugh waste of money.

I really like Lemar and Fabinho. Whats your opinion of them?
 

Dujj

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Jun 4, 2017
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Welcome and thanks for the input. To be honest I dont want Matuidi or Di Maria here. In my opinion Matuidi is a good but not great player, he is 30 years old and really not the player we should be looking for. Di Maria is still a good player, but nothing like the player he was for Real under Ancelotti. In my opinion he would be Hugh waste of money.

I really like Lemar and Fabinho. Whats your opinion of them?
Di Maria is no good, I agree.

His problems are always the same. People always try to defend him by saying "under ancelotti, he was great", but it was one season. Before that, he even had a surname in spain: "the beheaded chicken".

- He can be good for 1 game, and disappears 3 months.
- he tends to not be wise enough, making the wrong decisions at important times.
- Sometimes plays alone in his little corner.

Matuidi, is a very good player. After the Barcelona fiasco, it was the same as ever: Cavani, and Matuidi were the players who tried the most. Lots of PSG fans like him, and he's one of the most liked french players anyways.

But besides that, he lacks skills. If PSG managed to get simeone, Matuidi would be perfect, but since PSG got Blanc, it's all about possession + lots of passes to break defense. Matuidi can't do that. It didn't change under emery.


Monaco's players are awesome overall. They have great scouts, are well managed (the complete opposite of PSG's board). Lemar and Fabinho are no exception. Especially fabinho. World class player.

They won't come to PSG. As said above, any insiders infos we got are the same, "not selling to PSG". But Juve has a shot. Fabinho is a monster even if some people like to joke about his age (some thinks he's older than that in reality). If Juve can buy him, go for it.
 

Powis

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Dec 9, 2009
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PSG, Monaco. More PSG than Monaco since I grew up near/in paris, but not a die hard fan like many, and actually wished many times that this PSG will crash and burn. Since Leonardo left, this club does all the wrong moves with this season being the pinnacle of the amateurs that run this club. Sure it's cool for die hard PSG fans that PSG retains their players. Would be better if they did a good job managing it and went in CL semi-finals even if it meant to lose Verratti or Thiago Silva.

Also really like Atlético de Madrid, Juve and Barcelona. I follow their news/watch their games whenever I have the time.
Well. Football fans code of conduct says that you cannot support more than one team. You gotta stick to team that you somehow chose first and follow them until you're inside of coffin. So being supporter of PSG and Monaco doesn't really match that rule. You also like many others. :shifty:

..or maybe I just think this way coz football is Juventus to me. Anyways, welcome to the forum.
 

Badass J Elkann

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When you are saying your wishes for this summer notice we dont play attacking football. If Higuain can physically stand it he would also help in defence. Sanchez is also more great option for team like Bayern then for Allegri style.
The difference is that we are not relentless like real madrid when it comes to attacking, of course that means sacrificing elements of our defensive play

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Beppe is a softie :baus:
make a wish foundation FC :touched:
 

Dujj

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Well. Football fans code of conduct says that you cannot support more than one team. You gotta stick to team that you somehow chose first and follow them until you're inside of coffin. So being supporter of PSG and Monaco doesn't really match that rule. You also like many others. :shifty:

..or maybe I just think this way coz football is Juventus to me. Anyways, welcome to the forum.
That was the case when I was younger. I followed only PSG, and defended them even when they were wrong. But it changed when I grew up (not saying anything bad about people who stay the same, just that for me, that's how it went, that's all. No ill meaning behind my words).

Nowadays it's easier to follow different clubs. You can watch games easily. More coverages, more TV/Internet offers. You can watch replays. And, you can read message boards.

You could try it one day. It isn't that bad to follow other teams, especially if you have a reason. Mine was that Pogba was there. Started to really follow Juve since then, doesn't regret it. Serie A is a great overall even if some complain that Juve leaves no place for others.

Also, let's be real. The French League is bad compared to Spain, England, Italy, or Germany. easier for french to follow foreign clubs. You will find many people like me in France. Yeah there are PSG, and Monaco, but 90% of the games are the same with 9/10 teams building a bus, and that's all. It's awful (even if Monaco did marvelous this season).
 
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