Summer mercato thread 2017-18 (107 Viewers)

[DanielSz]

Defense: Buy De Sciglio. Buy Meret. Sell Neto. Sell Asamoah.

Midfield: Buy Fabinho. Buy Paredes. Sell Lemina. Sell Rincon.

Attack: Buy a winger. Buy Schick.

 

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[The Quazis]

He obviously is the best striker possible - in the league, but also is he worth 100MM or are there better options? But the guy has proven time and time again that he struggles in big games. His UCL record: 5 goals in 12 games. That is unacceptable for a 100MM striker.

Cavani good for Ligue 1? The guy is Serie A proven. Anyways: there is only one stat you need:
He had 8 goals in 8 champions league games. He put in 2 goals over 2 legs in Barcelona.

Lacazette? I think that argument is weak. The supporting cast on Juventus is dramatically superior to that in Lyon and more, it isn't logical to pin a disappointing year on one player. That being said: he isn't proven for a big team, but also he wouldn't cost 100MM.

Benzema? For 100MM I think Real would sell him last year. He isn't a pure striker, but he put in similar UCL numbers as Higuain in a support role.

Griezmann? Not sure how they are so similar. Griezmann is a direct, quick, technical winger/striker. Dybala, a creative technically gifted trequartista/ secondary striker. It would not be redundant to have both since Griezmann would play higher up the pitch. He certainly wouldn't be as involved in the build up. Just comparing heat maps shows this.

Falcao? Last summer he would have been cheap. Sure it would have been a gamble, and it's definitely hindsight being 20/20, but he would have been inexpensive.

My point is I think there were better ways to invest 100MM. Higuain is a great striker, but his propensity to choke in big games is quite documented. I'd rather have seen less money invested in a younger player.

Also, coming to camp out of shape definitely put a bad taste in my mouth after such a huge transfer fee.

Was he a bad signing? no.
Would Morata have been better at the same price? no.
But were there better uses? Or better deals? I think probably.

Alright, let's narrow the choice to players that are in Pipita's league: Griezmann, Benzema, Cavani. Why would Benzema leave Real Madrid for Juventus? Would PSG sell their main striker? And to Juventus of all the clubs? For Griezmann the competition would be so fierce that we would be easily outbid in wages offered. Assuming the 90-100mln clause in his contract is real. If not, the transfer would be even less possible.
We needed a top striker and Higuain was the only available. He wanted to leave Napoli, his wages demands were in our reach, all other top clubs already had strikers of his caliber in their roster so there was no point for them spending so much money on Higuain.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Valid point, maybe I too should pursue a career as a goalkeeper in the Ukrainian league. Would certainly earn more than currently.

Don't bother I bet you suck in goal

 

[CrimsonianKing]

I agree Dybala is a #9. But I also think he can play as an inside forward like David Villa did all those years. It would take quite a team setup to let him thrive there but I think that's his second best position. #10 or traditional #11/#7 doesn't suit him.

Dybala has trouble controlling and breaking defensive lines like you want from a #10 or a true winger. He is better finding space without the ball either behind their back line or just in front. I find that he struggles to break the midfield with the ball.

This is why him and Higuain are a weird fit right now.

Agree with everything. Especially the part about him needing to be closer or behind a back line, that's when he does he most damage. Which always made me think of Romário when I see him play.

Out of 10 tries he might break the midfield once or two, it really isn't his Forte. IMO the only reason we're not using him in his regular position is cause I don't think he ever demanded too, he's probably fine with his current role.

Talk about a weird fit. If you really think about it, it's either Dybala having a good day or Higuain, you rarely see them as a combining force.

 

[Osman]

Is it as bad as Lucas ?

No not at all.

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[JuveMkd]

No we don't. He was atrocious when played outwide.

I bet people would even accept Morata play as a CB just so they can see him in our shirt again

Besides we are buying a top young talent in Schick that can come off the bench and make an impact. So there's zero necessity for the Spaniard.

Our midfield needs major fixing. It is the weakest area of our team and our entire mercato should be focused on getting a top midfield hardman.

I agree our midfield is a pressing issue that has to be dealt first but you cant always bet that a talent like Schick will always turn out great. I like to be proven wrong in the case of Schick but as of now i want Morata more because every time he came of the bench he made an impact especially in the CL.

 

[Xperd]

Chelsea will meet with the agent of Juventus full-back Alex Sandro this week, for whom they're set to offer €40m [La Stampa via Football Italia]

 

[JuveMkd]

So you are ready to spend 50-70 million on Morata so you can play him on the wing and bench?

He won't go for that much. Those are bloated prices not even Chelsea or PSG will pay that much

 

[Beki]

Chelsea will meet with the agent of Juventus full-back Alex Sandro this week, for whom they're set to offer €40m [La Stampa via Football Italia]

40M?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Chelsea will meet with the agent of Juventus full-back Alex Sandro this week, for whom they're set to offer €40m [La Stampa via Football Italia]

Fuckkkk that

 

[italiacalcio10]

$#@!kkk that

Conte showing up to the restaurant with a $10 bill.

 

[Xperd]

Chelsea and City are actively courting our players (Bonucci and Sandro)

Shouldn't be surprised to see us sell one of them for a record fee. I think Sandro will stay for now though as he'll get a good rise in wages but I'm unsure about Bonucci. 30 years old. This is his last chance to get a massive contract offer which he won't get at Juventus. We won't bump his wages again surely.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Chelsea will meet with the agent of Juventus full-back Alex Sandro this week, for whom they're set to offer €40m [La Stampa via Football Italia]

Here we go again....

First off all, we'd be idiots to repeat the same mistake again and sell our best players.

Secondly, if we're to sell then I'd rather sell Bonucci.

Thirdly, oh, God, I hope we keep Sandro. He's just way too good and one of the best LBs in the game. Also, 40mln is peanuts in todays market, it seems like a laughable offer. Then again, so it was when similar numbers arrived for Arturo.

 

[The Quazis]

Chelsea and City are actively courting our players (Bonucci and Sandro)

Shouldn't be surprised to see us sell one of them for a record fee. I think Sandro will stay for now though as he'll get a good rise in wages but I'm unsure about Bonucci. 30 years old. This is his last chance to get a massive contract offer which he won't get at Juventus. We won't bump his wages again surely.

For a record fee do it. I mean 55mln + Matic is already too good to refuse. And if City is willing to beat that offer...

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Chelsea and City are actively after our players (Bonucci and Sandro)

Shouldn't be surprised to see us sell one of them for a record fee. I think Sandro will stay for now though as he'll get a good rise in wages but I'm unsure about Bonucci. 30 years old. This is his last chance to get a massive contract offer which he won't get at Juventus. We won't bump his wages again surely.

It'd be strange to sell Bonucci. Buffon, Barza and Chiellini don't have much longer and only Bonucci and Marchisio will remain as senatori in the team.

 

[Xperd]

It'd be strange to sell Bonucci. Buffon, Barza and Chiellini don't have much longer and only Bonucci and Marchisio will remain as senatori in the team.

Yep. But here's the thing, even if we can bump Bonucci's wages , others would want a raise as well. Marchisio already earns less than him. If he gets €7- €8M net from abroad, it'd be hard to turn down.

 

[Orgut]

He obviously is the best striker possible - in the league, but also is he worth 100MM or are there better options? But the guy has proven time and time again that he struggles in big games. His UCL record: 5 goals in 12 games. That is unacceptable for a 100MM striker.

Cavani good for Ligue 1? The guy is Serie A proven. Anyways: there is only one stat you need:
He had 8 goals in 8 champions league games. He put in 2 goals over 2 legs in Barcelona.

Lacazette? I think that argument is weak. The supporting cast on Juventus is dramatically superior to that in Lyon and more, it isn't logical to pin a disappointing year on one player. That being said: he isn't proven for a big team, but also he wouldn't cost 100MM.

Benzema? For 100MM I think Real would sell him last year. He isn't a pure striker, but he put in similar UCL numbers as Higuain in a support role.

Griezmann? Not sure how they are so similar. Griezmann is a direct, quick, technical winger/striker. Dybala, a creative technically gifted trequartista/ secondary striker. It would not be redundant to have both since Griezmann would play higher up the pitch. He certainly wouldn't be as involved in the build up. Just comparing heat maps shows this.

Falcao? Last summer he would have been cheap. Sure it would have been a gamble, and it's definitely hindsight being 20/20, but he would have been inexpensive.

My point is I think there were better ways to invest 100MM. Higuain is a great striker, but his propensity to choke in big games is quite documented. I'd rather have seen less money invested in a younger player.

Also, coming to camp out of shape definitely put a bad taste in my mouth after such a huge transfer fee.

Was he a bad signing? no.
Would Morata have been better at the same price? no.
But were there better uses? Or better deals? I think probably.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Yep. But here's the thing, even if we can bump Bonucci's wages , others would want a raise as well. Marchisio already earns less than him. If he gets €7- €8M net from abroad, it'd be hard to turn down.

But didn't he just sign a new contract?

 

[Xperd]

But didn't he just sign a new contract?

Yes. And that's why I think we won't give him another extension. He'll stay with the same wages( €4.5M net) or he'll go to PL where he'll earn more. I would be not be surprised if he remained, equally won't be surprised if he is sold.

 

[zizinho]

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