Summer mercato thread 2017-18 (66 Viewers)

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Stephan

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(last is a stretch, but they ditched him for nothing, and he went on to be instrumental in winning CL final vs them immediately).
Only Kroos. And he wanted salary upgrade. And new challenge.

Why u put Hummels there. Hummels was 20 in 2008/9 when he went to Dortmund. He was a nobody then. Bayern had more experienced defenders. Hummels developed and grew at Dortmund and eventually Bayern bought him back.

Lucio was probably considered past his prime. Bayern didnt win league 08/09 and Lucio left same summer. Obviously he had a great first season at inter but after that it went downhill quick. Also if i recall there were some relationship issues in his last Bayern years. They seemed happy to get rid of him.
 

Amer

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Feb 13, 2005
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A world-class midfielder and a forward need to come.

Veratti - Sanchez, Nainggolan - James, or something similar. That is what we should aim for.

I have no doubt Marotta and Paratici will try. Last summer they were everywhere, even tried to sign first-team players from Barcelona.
 

.jef.

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May 25, 2017
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Our first half saw us create 4-5 chances before real madrid's first chance=goal.

Because our midfield is 50% black particle dogshit, we forget to pick up some guy called Ronaldo, i heard i sometimes scores a goal, and we came behind.


if we had continue'd, we would have opened the scoring and we'd have a different second half.



I cant stress enough just how important it is when you play a 4-2-3-1 or variant that both CM's can stand up to the task and aid each other. If one completely goes missing like black particle dogshit, then a prime player like Pjanic isnt fucking gonna make it against Modric and Kroos, and it allows Casemiro to mark Dybala out of the game.



We need a new CM.



Here is the deal. Nainggolan has a head full of rotting leaves. He's a shitbag that will someday finally get killed by a fan's knife. But if he had partnered Pjanic, we would have won the final.
Those may be fair points, but it still doesn't address the fact we're playing Dybala away from the place he's most dangerous, and playing a defensive winger, which was glorious to watch, but doesn't make sense in the long term. We're making players fit the formation rather than the formation fit the players, and this window is the time to address that.

We've learned nothing here we didn't know after the last two transfer windows. We never got Max his number 10, and we need more strength in midfield.

I still think we could have won the final with the team we had. We started right trying to hit them, but they also started strong. At this point I'd have rather the team stayed compact, squeezed them to turn over possession and moved forward as a unit. We let the game become to hectic and that's where Madrid thrive.
 

Art^

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I remember people here laughing at our interest in signing Emerson, Higuain...
Nainggolan isnt exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. He will turn us down to prove a point rather than win something.

In any way, he is a smoker and has the IQ of a wet cardboard box. He will decline sooner rather than later.
 

Cheesio

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We have too many one dimensional players, players that only excel at one thing especially in the MF and attack, and if we want to make it to the next level and stop desillusion like on Saturday, we need to replace them with betetr players:

- Khedira and Cuadrado shouldn't be near the starting 11. Give me Tolisso/fabinho or Verrati ( is we switch to a 3 man MF)
- Mandzukic: I know he had a good year but we definetely need an upgrade.
- Higuain: i dont want to repalce but he definetely needs to lose weight. He looks slow and out of shape. Lost his ability to create for himself.
- A New RB
- Creativity off the bench: Shick/Keita/Berna..
 

petersmit

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Mar 14, 2006
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Like it or not.. But what we are missing is vidal and pogba in their prime..
Pogbas last half season with us is exactly what we missed in our midfield.. Combine that with vidal in his prime and our midfield would be the best

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I'd put good money on szczesny using juve to get a better deal elsewhere. I just don't buy that move. He's too good to sit on the bench.
God I hope so.. 4M in wages.. Ffs..
 

Adrian

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Jan 31, 2003
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We have too many one dimensional players, players that only excel at one thing especially in the MF and attack, and if we want to make it to the next level and stop desillusion like on Saturday, we need to replace them with betetr players:

- Khedira and Cuadrado shouldn't be near the starting 11. Give me Tolisso/fabinho or Verrati ( is we switch to a 3 man MF)
- Mandzukic: I know he had a good year but we definetely need an upgrade.
- Higuain: i dont want to repalce but he definetely needs to lose weight. He looks slow and out of shape. Lost his ability to create for himself.
- A New RB
- Creativity off the bench: Shick/Keita/Berna..
A new Rb? Alves is fine...but he needs to play right back in a back 4 and have adequate back up so we ensure he is managed well enough to last the season.

I think if we had the likes of khedira Schlick cuadrado mandzukic on bench it is ten times better than what we have now.

Midfield needs work...3 starters..pjanic is a given...marchisio hopefully returns to full fitness and form...need that third midfielder..tolisso would be great...but we need cover...khedira sounds good...sturaro Rincon and lemina less so. Mandragora and bentancur sound interesting.

Depending on formation but another dybala to help dybala in that final third would be nice. A winger or a true AM.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Buffon
Alves-Bonucci-Chiellini-Sandro
Verratti-Tolisso/Fabinho-Pjanic
Dybala-Higuain-Sanchez​

Szczesny
De Sciglio
Rugani
Benatia
Barzagli
LB?
Marchisio
Rincon
Betancur
Khedira
Cuadrado
Mandzukic
Schick
Pjaca
Bernadeschi/Keita

@Mark :baus:
 

Liviu

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Jan 10, 2015
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My ideal mercato:

Out: Sturaro 20, Lemina 20, Neto 10, Asa + Licht ~ 15 + fringe players = 70m.
In: MDS 12, Fabinho 35, James 60, Schick 25 + one of Di Maria / Costa / Berna ~ 35-50 = 180m.

Net spent: 110m. If you count Coman - Benatia fee, Zaza money from Valencia the spend is less...add CL money and we won't touch our pockets.

Gigi
Alves - Bonucci - Chiello - Sandro
Khedira - Fabinho - Pjanic
James
Dybala - Higgy

Gigi
Alves - Bonucci - Chiello - Sandro
Fabinho - Pjanic
James - Dybala - winger
Hyggy

It can also work as a 4-3-2-1, 4-3-3.
Di Maria would also work in that 3 man midfield.

Sure, Beppe is miles from this list but that's what I would do.
 

SrdanPopovic

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Jul 14, 2016
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Sell Licht, Sturaro, Lemina, Rincon, Khedira and Asamoah please, and give the chance to guys who actually can make something and become something...if they flop, again sell them and bring New young guns...repeat repeat repeat until you have a squad full of quality and young, not with the average age of 31
Cant believe Lirola is good for Barcelona and not good enough to be our bench, same for Spinazzola, instead we are bringing DeSciglio(i think guy is a good player) but not needed here, we have our own already, give chance to Bentancur to be on the bench and for God sake sign very best midfielders, cause we need at least 2, we lost to Madrid because of Non-existing midfield and not having real smart moving wingers(Cuadrado is headless chicken, he already reached his top level and thats nowhere near of what JUVE need)...please for God sake sign what we need
I would say:
1)bring back Spinazzola to backup Sandro,forget De Sciglio
2)sign Fabinho to play cover for Alves and main role to be in MF
3)try for Verrati, if not Verrati bring SMS and give guy a chance to show what he is made of
4)try for Sanchez all in, if not Sanchez bring Bernardeschi
5)Bring Keita for rotation and resting starters togheter with Pjaca
6)Bring Schick cause he will bench Higuain sooner rather than later mark my words(he is all what we lost when Zlatan left for Merda)
7)we don't need another expensive golie,find anyone decent if Neto wanna leave, next year when Buffon retires go all in for pure quality not for Sczcneys of this world
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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My ideal mercato:

Out: Sturaro 20, Lemina 20, Neto 10, Asa + Licht ~ 15 + fringe players = 70m.
In: MDS 12, Fabinho 35, James 60, Schick 25 + one of Di Maria / Costa / Berna ~ 35-50 = 180m.

Net spent: 110m. If you count Coman - Benatia fee, Zaza money from Valencia the spend is less...add CL money and we won't touch our pockets.

Gigi
Alves - Bonucci - Chiello - Sandro
Khedira - Fabinho - Pjanic
James
Dybala - Higgy

Gigi
Alves - Bonucci - Chiello - Sandro
Fabinho - Pjanic
James - Dybala - winger
Hyggy

It can also work as a 4-3-2-1, 4-3-3.
Di Maria would also work in that 3 man midfield.

Sure, Beppe is miles from this list but that's what I would do.
Sanchez > James
 

Liviu

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Jan 10, 2015
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1)bring back Spinazzola to backup Sandro,forget De Sciglio
He said himself he's not ready for Juve this season, he wants to remain at Atalanta and join when Caldara does, another year from now. I read this 1-2 weeks ago.

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Sanchez > James
Maybe, but James seems easier to get, plays all 3 roles behind Higgy and he's 3 years younger.
 

SrdanPopovic

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Jul 14, 2016
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He said himself he's not ready for Juve this season, he wants to remain at Atalanta and join when Caldara does, another year from now. I read this 1-2 weeks ago.

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Maybe, but James seems easier to get, plays all 3 roles behind Higgy and he's 3 years younger.
For too long we where listening to a player wishes and needs, throw him into Fire, he flops=he is sold, repeat repeat repeat

My opinion that he is more than ready to be JUVE backup on left side
And think we are the only club in the world who tries to devolop players and believing they will turn to a quality until they reach 27,28....If he isnt quality with 23,24 at most sell the fuc*ker and move on, he will never be
 
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