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Gep

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Benzema advised him to stay in Monaco and not make the same error he did. He told him Real Madrid is for players in their prime, he came too soon and that was a problem for his development (too much pressure).

Mbappe recently said he wants to stay at Monaco for a while to grow.

Yeah fuuck all that shiit and sign him already. Sick of all this Real Madrid is the pinnacle of your career. Shame those fuuckers don't play us in CL each season as I'm sure as hell know they'll be no where near those 11 titles.
 

rakib567

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Selling a 30 yr old Bonucci for absurd money would be great business imo :donedeal:
Hell no. Chiellini and barzagli will be out the door soon we need a leader like Bonucci to guide rugani and caldara. Also italian defenders tend to last a lot longer than other defenders. I wouldn't even sell Chiellini

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Rachid Ghezzal from Lyon is a freebie in the summer, anyone here who watched him frequently that would want him at Juve?

http://www.transfermarkt.com/rachid-ghezzal/profil/spieler/118287
Not good enough

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This information is incorrect. He has signed an amateur contract until 2019 before the start of this season (3years max for u18) and it is reported, that his 1st professional contract is already negotiated for 5 years and ll start, when Havertz reaching his 18th birthday. He has already been linked with Bayern, but he is going to stay at Leverkusen for the next few years and only a buyout clause could change this.
Ok thanks.
 
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whats wrong with him? i havent seen him play except for vs us and Roma (and i dont remember how he was) so i dont really know anything about him, thats why i ask
He is 24 years old, soon 25 years, and in 5 years in professional he has achieved only one good season last year otherwise it has a disapointing. It is a player for lazio or Fiorentina (Europa Level) but definitely not Juve material.
 

zizinho

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Apparently, Sanchez wants 490,000 Euros a week to stay @ Arsenal :howler:

Who is the highest paid player in the EPL? Is it Zlatan on 10 Million Euros net? I think Pogba makes around 9 million :boh:
Pogba earns more than Zlatan, hes the highest earner at around 15M pounds (18M euros) gross wages. what Sanchez asks for is almost twice that much, which would put him in the Messi and Ronaldo range. doubt anyone will give him that unless he goes to China

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He is 24 years old, soon 25 years, and in 5 years in professional he has achieved only one good season last year otherwise it has a disapointing. It is a player for lazio or Fiorentina (Europa Level) but definitely not Juve material.
even as a backup player for free? lets say we sign di Maria or Sancehz for a high sum (60M+) and want to add another 3rd-4th option winger, we wont (and cant i think) go for another expensive one but will look at those cheap ones that can play 15-20 games a season. my question was what are Ghezzals qualities, whats he good and whats he bad at, and is good enough for such role of a bench player? im aware that we will need better than him to start for us
 

spurdo

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even as a backup player for free? lets say we sign di Maria or Sancehz for a high sum (60M+) and want to add another 3rd-4th option winger, we wont (and cant i think) go for another expensive one but will look at those cheap ones that can play 15-20 games a season. my question was what are Ghezzals qualities, whats he good and whats he bad at, and is good enough for such role of a bench player? im aware that we will need better than him to start for us
Ghezzal would be just adding crappy foreign depth that we don't need and who will never have a future with the club: he's average as fukk. Top teams like Madrid and Bayern don't do that, but instead bring up players like Asensio and Kimmich from the youth teams as back-ups that have the potential to one day be first team players. We have Orsolini, Kean and Clemenza who I'd be happy to put on against the likes of Pescara when we need to rest Pjaca, Cuadrado, Higuain, Dybala, Mandzukic and hypothetically a "Sanchez". 6 starting attackers for the key games and 3 reserve back-ups for the fodder teams: that's overkill right there, especially when we have attacking wing-backs like Sandro and Alves to hypothetically cover the wings aswell. Not to mention, signing a world class midfielder and winger might be the death of 4-2-3-1 and move Juve towards a different formation with less attackers.
 

zizinho

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Ghezzal would be just adding crappy foreign depth that we don't need and who will never have a future with the club: he's average as fukk. Top teams like Madrid and Bayern don't do that, but instead bring up players like Asensio and Kimmich from the youth teams as back-ups that have the potential to one day be first team players. We have Orsolini, Kean and Clemenza who I'd be happy to put on against the likes of Pescara when we need to rest Pjaca, Cuadrado, Higuain, Dybala, Mandzukic and hypothetically a "Sanchez". 6 starting attackers for the key games and 3 reserve back-ups for the fodder teams: that's overkill right there, especially when we have attacking wing-backs like Sandro and Alves to hypothetically cover the wings aswell. Not to mention, signing a world class midfielder and winger might be the death of 4-2-3-1 and move Juve towards a different formation with less attackers.
So you watch a lot of Lyon games?

We never relied on primavera kids, to expect us to do so now is baseless. We have Mandzukic, Cuadrado, Dybala, Higuain and Pjaca. Our next signing for them will be an expensive one (even Berna costs), but we will still need another depth option. My question (to those who watch Lyon) was, would Ghezzal be good enough for that role, and what are his qualities, because the only things i know about him is that hes a starter for Lyon and will be a freebie in the summer
 

Nostradamus

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Ghezzal would be just adding crappy foreign depth that we don't need and who will never have a future with the club: he's average as fukk. Top teams like Madrid and Bayern don't do that, but instead bring up players like Asensio and Kimmich from the youth teams as back-ups that have the potential to one day be first team players. We have Orsolini, Kean and Clemenza who I'd be happy to put on against the likes of Pescara when we need to rest Pjaca, Cuadrado, Higuain, Dybala, Mandzukic and hypothetically a "Sanchez". 6 starting attackers for the key games and 3 reserve back-ups for the fodder teams: that's overkill right there, especially when we have attacking wing-backs like Sandro and Alves to hypothetically cover the wings aswell. Not to mention, signing a world class midfielder and winger might be the death of 4-2-3-1 and move Juve towards a different formation with less attackers.
I wouldnt generalize it too much and for Bayern it isnt so strange to get a freebie from time to time, who could become a useful squad player. Next season for example Rudy comes as a Bosman and I m convinced, that he is going to be very valuable and ll surprise many. He is no foreigner though...
 

spurdo

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So you watch a lot of Lyon games?

We never relied on primavera kids, to expect us to do so now is baseless. We have Mandzukic, Cuadrado, Dybala, Higuain and Pjaca. Our next signing for them will be an expensive one (even Berna costs), but we will still need another depth option. My question (to those who watch Lyon) was, would Ghezzal be good enough for that role, and what are his qualities, because the only things i know about him is that hes a starter for Lyon and will be a freebie in the summer
I've watched enough to know that he's average. You also just got an answer from someone from Lyon who said he is average. So essentially we'd just get an foreign, average player with no future at the club as a depth choice, whos only job would be to cover the couple of games when one of our 6 starting attackers need a rest: which is rarely. I'd rather we fill those spots with homegrown, hungry youngsters eager to impress, doesn't matter if that's not how we do things. My two cents.

I wouldnt generalize it too much and for Bayern it isnt so strange to get a freebie from time to time, who could become a useful squad player. Next season for example Rudy comes as a Bosman and I m convinced, that he is going to be very valuable and ll surprise many. He is no foreigner though...
Well there you have it: Rudy has represented Germany on all possible levels and has been the key cog at Hoffenheim for years. He would be a direct replacement for Xabi Alonso (retiring) and Lahm (soon retiring) so he has a possible spot for himself in the team. A sound deal for free, even if Bayern would decide to find someone better later on. Ghezzal for us on the other hand would be a foreign player with no future added just for depth. I'd like for us to be in a situation where every single player in our team can function as a starter, or has the possibility to one day become that.
 

j0ker

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Jan 5, 2006
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Pogba earns more than Zlatan, hes the highest earner at around 15M pounds (18M euros) gross wages. what Sanchez asks for is almost twice that much, which would put him in the Messi and Ronaldo range. doubt anyone will give him that unless he goes to China

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even as a backup player for free? lets say we sign di Maria or Sancehz for a high sum (60M+) and want to add another 3rd-4th option winger, we wont (and cant i think) go for another expensive one but will look at those cheap ones that can play 15-20 games a season. my question was what are Ghezzals qualities, whats he good and whats he bad at, and is good enough for such role of a bench player? im aware that we will need better than him to start for us
Messi earns 20mln+ net.

But still Sanchez asking 12mln net is a joke.

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Mar 3, 2014
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That's bull$#@!.

Bayern can buy Coman and we can't do $#@! about it.
The only situation I can think of is if Coman refuses to sign with Bayern, similar to Salah a few years ago. If that happens, and agreed upon deal also requires a player signing a contract. If the player refuses to sign the contract, the transfer agreement is useless. The only exception, which is atypical is the Morata agreement when the contract was pre-signed. If that is the case for Coman, his transfer to Bayern will be a formality. Therefore, if City approaches Coman's agent and says: "refuse Bayern, Pep wants you", and Coman agrees. He could say no to any Bayern contract offer and return to Juventus, where Juventus would sell him to City.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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I've watched enough to know that he's average. You also just got an answer from someone from Lyon who said he is average. So essentially we'd just get an foreign, average player with no future at the club as a depth choice, whos only job would be to cover the couple of games when one of our 6 starting attackers need a rest: which is rarely. I'd rather we fill those spots with homegrown, hungry youngsters eager to impress, doesn't matter if that's not how we do things. My two cents.



Well there you have it: Rudy has represented Germany on all possible levels and has been the key cog at Hoffenheim for years. He would be a direct replacement for Xabi Alonso (retiring) and Lahm (soon retiring) so he has a possible spot for himself in the team. A sound deal for free, even if Bayern would decide to find someone better later on. Ghezzal for us on the other hand would be a foreign player with no future added just for depth. I'd like for us to be in a situation where every single player in our team can function as a starter, or has the possibility to one day become that.
It doesent matter if hes foreign or not, cut the crap. We will need 2 attacking options in the summer and one of them will be very expensive - thats a given almost. Will we have enough funds to sign another expensive one? Im not sure, which is why these players like Ghezzal are interesting. Hes good enough to play regularly at Lyon, and Raphael still hasnt answered my 2nd question about if hes good enough as a bench/rotation option and what type of player he is, what are his strengths and weaknesses etc
 
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