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Bianconero_Aus

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I must have missed the part where I said Dybala was a winger. Please show me where I said that.

Cuadrado Dybala Sanchez

Higuain


But back to mandzukic. I said he's 30 because the next contract he gets in 2018 will most likely be his last one. Him being relegated to the bench would impact that last contract. So unless Juve is prepared to extend his contract, at starter wages that he rightfully deserves, they have to sell. We are not Real Madrid. We are not Barcelona. We can't afford to let players walk for free at the end of their contracts. Seriously, who was the last impact player that we allowed to walk for free?

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Hahahahahah imagine thinking marotta actually cares who gets the most cheers and applause without any sort of irony.

Stupid idiot

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Bianconero81

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Seems B81 is working for Corsport. First Savic now Fofana

Juventus has an agreement with Udinese for the signing of Alex Meret in the summer at €5m & they're also interested in Fofana. [Corsport]
:klin: You guys have to trust me more. Atalanta, Udinese, and potentially Lazio should all be our feeder clubs :D
 

Bianconero81

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It would weaken us considerably, and remove the possibility to play pjanic, dybala and cuadrado in one formation.
Not necessarily. IF we get Sanchez (he presses and does a lot of work defensively as well), and deploy a midfield duo of Pjanic and Tolisso, we can still play the 4-2-3-1 with Pjanic and Tolisso in midfield, and Sanchez, Dybala, and Cuadrado supporting Higuain :D
 

zizinho

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It would weaken us considerably, and remove the possibility to play pjanic, dybala and cuadrado in one formation.
We played them in the 352 together didnt we? Also, guys like Tolisso and Milinkovic-Savic would allow us to play with btb mids again, so we might see Pjanic infront of the defense as a regista
 

IlCapitano

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It would weaken us considerably, and remove the possibility to play pjanic, dybala and cuadrado in one formation.
No dude, there are other ways to compensate for what Mandžukić brings. I love him, but if we manage to get Alexis he is surplus, he would not be ok with the bench like he wasn't this year. And Alexis >>> Mandžukić.

Bring in Tolisso and he can give you everything Mario does and play trident upfront.

And Alexis has a terific workrate too + much better on the ball than Mario.
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Out: Lemina, Sturaro
In: Sanchez, Tolisso

We collect the money from Coman's and Zeza's sales and we're good.


Buffon
Dani Alves - Bonucci - Rugani - Alex Sandro
Pjanic - Tolisso
Cuadrado - Dybala - Sanchez
Higuain

And that's an upgrade we should look forward to. Bench: Neto, Licht, Barza, Chiellini, Asa, Marchisio, Khedira, Rincon, Pjaca, Mandzukic - looks very good.

Debating over 'Sanchez or Mnadzukic' doesn't make sense - we simply need both it's as simple as that. Mandzukic is too good and too useful to sell and Sanchez is an opportunity we need to seize. Picking between one or the other doesn't make sense because as things stand we're quite thin to play 4231 week in week out. We simply need both.
 

Zacheryah

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We played them in the 352 together didnt we? Also, guys like Tolisso and Milinkovic-Savic would allow us to play with btb mids again, so we might see Pjanic infront of the defense as a regista
That 3-5-2 that everyone bitched and moaned about ? Where pjanic sucked gigantic ass compared to his current quality ? Where Cuadrado never playes with Sandro in the same team ?
 

Bianconero81

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That 3-5-2 that everyone bitched and moaned about ? Where pjanic sucked gigantic ass compared to his current quality ? Where Cuadrado never playes with Sandro in the same team ?
I understand your concern, but it isn't impossible to deploy a 4-2-3-1 without Mandzukic. Honestly, who among us thought we'd be deploying a 4-2-3-1 formation a couple of months back? The main issue would be having a backup CF for Higuain, if Mandzukic opts to go elsewhere in an attempt to get regular game time.
 

Zacheryah

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No dude, there are other ways to compensate for what Mandžukić brings. I love him, but if we manage to get Alexis he is surplus, he would not be ok with the bench like he wasn't this year. And Alexis >>> Mandžukić.

Bring in Tolisso and he can give you everything Mario does and play trident upfront.

And Alexis has a terific workrate too + much better on the ball than Mario.
There isnt.


Sanchez will replace Cuadrado, not Mandzukic.


And if Mandzukic is gone, we will not play 4231, even if sanchez is here.




Mandzukic is a far more vital player then you fanboys of flair and fancy shit make out off. There is a reason he's playin nonstop. That the crowd absolutely adores him. That a organisatory coach goes "fuck it i'll field a weak as pathetic shit midfield, cause we got a mandzukic compensating".


Mandzukic shouldnt be sold. In fact, we should get Sanchez without selling a starter, or not get him at all. Thats what actual top teams do.

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I understand your concern, but it isn't impossible to deploy a 4-2-3-1 without Mandzukic. Honestly, who among us thought we'd be deploying a 4-2-3-1 formation a couple of months back? The main issue would be having a backup CF for Higuain, if Mandzukic opts to go elsewhere in an attempt to get regular game time.
True


we can simply bench the living shit out of pjanic or dybala, play Rincon+ Marchisio in the midfield, play fancy shitcunt wingers, and have either pjanic or dybala play TQ.


Cause thats exactly what will happen without Mandzukic.



The reason we are playing, and are able to do so, a 4-2-3-1 with 4 forwards, is pure and alone Mandzukic.
 

Bianconero81

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There isnt.


Sanchez will replace Cuadrado, not Mandzukic.


And if Mandzukic is gone, we will not play 4231, even if sanchez is here.




Mandzukic is a far more vital player then you fanboys of flair and fancy shit make out off. There is a reason he's playin nonstop. That the crowd absolutely adores him. That a organisatory coach goes "fuck it i'll field a weak as pathetic shit midfield, cause we got a mandzukic compensating".


Mandzukic shouldnt be sold. In fact, we should get Sanchez without selling a starter, or not get him at all. Thats what actual top teams do.

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True


we can simply bench the living shit out of pjanic or dybala, play Rincon+ Marchisio in the midfield, play fancy shitcunt wingers, and have either pjanic or dybala play TQ.


Cause thats exactly what will happen without Mandzukic.



The reason we are playing, and are able to do so, a 4-2-3-1 with 4 forwards, is pure and alone Mandzukic.
I agree about not selling Mandzukic, and that Sanchez should arrive irrespective of that. However, we are assuming another hypothetical scenario, all possible scenarios if you will.

A 4-2-3-1 with Pjanic and Tolisso supporting a Cuadrado, Dybala, Sanchez trident, and Higuain as a lone striker is not soft dude.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I agree about not selling Mandzukic, and that Sanchez should arrive irrespective of that. However, we are assuming another hypothetical scenario, all possible scenarios if you will.

A 4-2-3-1 with Pjanic and Tolisso supporting a Cuadrado, Dybala, Sanchez trident, and Higuain as a lone striker is not soft dude.
Its unbalanced, we wont do it. We'll bench either dybala or pjanic, and play 2 strong cm's
 

spurdo

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Think 4-3-3 (4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1 too) should be the formations we're moving towards. All previous CL winners have used that and almost 90% of the other successful teams like PSG use it too. Pjaca, Cuadrado, Orsolini, Kean and possibly Sanchez and Berardi make it work from the flanks. Won't be needing that extra man Mandzu as we have another hardworking body in midfield, possibly Tolisso, to cover for his miles. I love how the 4-2-3-1 works but I'm a bit afraid it might get found out at some point in Europe against solid attacking teams.
 
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