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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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I said those exact words go look back at both posts because I had to repeat myself. I also said he concentrates better in the box tracks back and isn’t as lazy defensively
That's still a ridiculous argument. And uses the most subjective elements of defensive play. Please show me examples of Sandro being lazy or not tracking back. Sandro dominated his flank defensively, even before the switch to 4-2-3-1. He was our best player for the first 5 months of the season.

Concentration on set-pieces swung into the box I can get... but the other stuff, rubbish. Calling him lazy is ludicrous.
 

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AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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That's still a ridiculous argument. And uses the most subjective elements of defensive play. Please show me examples of Sandro being lazy or not tracking back. Sandro dominated his flank defensively, even before the switch to 4-2-3-1. He was our best player for the first 5 months of the season.

Concentration on set-pieces swung into the box I can get... but the other stuff, rubbish. Calling him lazy is ludicrous.
I said Spinazzola isn’t as lazy not that Sandro is lazy. You can call it ridiculous but it’s how I feel
 

Post Ironic

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I said Spinazzola isn’t as lazy not that Sandro is lazy. You can call it ridiculous but it’s how I feel
Saying Spinazzola isn't as lazy... This implies, and rather strongly, that Sandro is at the very least, somewhat lazy.

You could have said you think Sandro is a hard worker, but Spinazzola works even harder.

You didn't. Instead you chose to say "isn't as lazy as Sandro." If you are arguing this doesn't suggest that Sandro is lazy (or that people won't infer this from your statement), you need to get a better grasp on the English language and things such as implication and inference.

If I said Higuain isn't as fat as Ronaldo... I'm pretty clearly implying Ronaldo was fat.
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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Saying Spinazzola isn't as lazy... This implies, and rather strongly, that Sandro is at the very least, somewhat lazy.

You could have said you think Sandro is a hard worker, but Spinazzola works ever harder.

You didn't. Instead you chose to say "isn't as lazy as Sandro." If you are arguing this doesn't mean that Sandro is lazy, you need to get a better grasp on the English language and things such as implication and inference.

If I said Higuain isn't as fat as Ronaldo... I'm pretty clearly implying Ronaldo was fat.
Here is the crux of the issue. It’s my opinion and yes maybe I have a slight Italian bias just like some on here have a slight anything but Italian bias but it’s still my opinion. No matter what other people think of it. Discuss it is fine mocking people for it to make yourselves feel better isn’t. This is how I feel about he scenario and I think as good as Sandro is for 70+ mill I would sell him.
 

Post Ironic

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Here is the crux of the issue. It’s my opinion and yes maybe I have a slight Italian bias just like some on here have a slight anything but Italian bias but it’s still my opinion. No matter what other people think of it. Discuss it is fine mocking people for it to make yourselves feel better isn’t. This is how I feel about he scenario and I think as good as Sandro is for 70+ mill I would sell him.
That is fine. :tup:

If our team hadn't undergone such big changes already over the last 2 years, I'd sell him too for a ridiculous offer... But I am not a fan of unnecessary turnover, especially of a team that has been in flux for two years. I wouldn't have sold Vidal 2 years ago, and I wouldn't sell Sandro now. If Sandro was 28-29, and we had a stable team built over several years, by all means sell him for a ridiculous offer. But right now, with the state of flux our team has been in for 2 years, regardless of how fantastic the results have been, it's time to consolidate and build on those results, by not selling again this summer. Next summer, or perhaps the one after... different story. But this summer is 100% no.
 

Cronios

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Some sites reports that we have missed on Douglas Costa because of the 2 only European restriction.
Now I thought this rule applied only for foreign players that come outside of Europe, like it's the Bentancour case.
DCosta played for Bayern and Danilo plays for Real. The restriction is pathetic, it's ok to pronounce national favoritism, but this is just too much! Only two non EU players, regardless if they are coming from European teams? Really?
No wonder why cheap monkeys like bernadeschiss get so overated then...
 

AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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That is fine. :tup:

If our team hadn't undergone such big changes already over the last 2 years, I'd sell him too for a ridiculous offer... But I am not a fan of unnecessary turnover, especially of a team that has been in flux for two years. I wouldn't have sold Vidal 2 years ago, and I wouldn't sell Sandro now. If Sandro was 28-29, and we had a stable team built over several years, by all means sell him for a ridiculous offer. But right now, with the state of flux our team has been in for 2 years, regardless of how fantastic the results have been, it's time to consolidate and build on those results, by not selling again this summer. Next summer, or perhaps the one after... different story. But this summer is 100% no.
I can understand this definitely. I will say that I no longer believe he will be sold. I actually think we will keep him send Spinazzola one more year to Atlanta and sign two midfielders beside the Berna signing and we’re done
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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It is.

When you have hundreds of people from all different parts of the world of course there is going to be some conflicts over opinions and the ways people present those opinions. I personally have rarely had any trouble presenting my opinions and discussing them around here.
He did not present or argue his opinion, offered nothing to discuss, he just made outlandish statement and wore it as a badge of honour to get reactions to it. Did not answer a single direct question to specify his statement whatsoever.


An opinion is worthless if you aren't even trying to debate and back it up, and weird thing is he adamant he actually made valid arguments for it when he didn't.

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Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Difference is they always jump on me because of my sig/ belief in God so I automatically get the crap
No it's because you make crazy biased statements and you can't back them up even for a single second. And when you get questioned on it you can't actually discuss, you only play the victim and cry wolf.

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AndreaCristiano

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No it's because you make crazy biased statements and you can't back them up even for a single second. And when you get questioned on it you can't actually discuss, you only play the victim and cry wolf.

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That’s bs and you know it. I backed up my opinion now 4 times. If it isn’t good enough for you that’s on you. I don’t have to prove or answer to your satisfaction anytime. I answer and that’s it
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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I said those exact words go look back at both posts because I had to repeat myself. I also said he concentrates better in the box tracks back and isn’t as lazy defensively
Not only have we ALL seen seen both players play plenty, but your ridicolous statement was debunked not on rational thinking alone but you were litterally shown in stats by Post Ironic or Daidevil that Sandro was better then Spinazzola in every defensive metrics available.

So how in the world is he inferior to unproven player like Spinazzola, when he has shown he is top of the world in his position?

If that wasn't proof enough, he is being chased with 70m price tag as a friggin fullback.

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AndreaCristiano

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Jun 9, 2011
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Not only have we ALL seen seen both players play plenty, but your ridicolous statement was debunked not on rational thinking alone but you were litterally shown in stats by Post Ironic or Daidevil that Sandro was better then Spinazzola in every defensive metrics available.

So how in the world is he inferior to unproven player like Spinazzola, when he has shown he is top of the world in his position?

If that wasn't proof enough, he is being chased with 70m price tag as a friggin fullback.

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I’m done talking to you man be blessed. Hate me and my points all you want. I have a right to them and I’m not being forced to change them for anyone. Peace
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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No one is saying to change them nor do I care enough to hate random guy online who is simply stubborn oaf. But this is a discussion forum, and you aren't discussing, you are making ridiculous claims and not backing them up. If you can't then don't bother, but stop playing the victim when you can't make valid rebuttals whatsoever.

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zizinho

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What your fratello says?
He thinks AS is gone to Chelsea, we still try to sign Danilo, Aurier alternative. No name for LB yet, Bernardeschi is done and for Keita we waiting for other transfers to be done. Midfielder one of Nzonzi, Matuidi, Fabinho, in that order od preference
 
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