Summer mercato thread 2017-18 (149 Viewers)

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Jul 20, 2012
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Juve couldn't really compete with PL teams if it came down to it. But at least if United went for Semedo, Darmian might be cheaper.
And if those two happen, and they are not gonna be cheap, who is gonna be our midfield and attacking reinforcement?

Our funds aren't exactly infinite.
Sad reality we are facing. If Alex Sandro does go, and we replace him and dani with darmian and de sciglio, it will show our true intentions.

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guru also mentioned Di Maria but I decided not to include it here. :numnum:
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Mar 3, 2014
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Theory:

Our Italian players for whatever reason are the ones that stay longer or at least are easier to persuade to stay long term. Don't know why we can't with foreign players maybe it's because our league is taking forever to grow again and Spain/England has more to offer in that sense (Germany too). I think that's why we are suddenly back on the market for more Italian players because long term we will have less of an issue keeping them? Just throwing ideas out there...
Well, you're always going to have more ease retaining Italians because of:
1) Language
2) Cultural fit
3) Wanting to be near family

For foreign players it often comes down to money. Sure there are other factors: language (I'm sure spanish speaking South American players prefer Spain all things held equal), strength of the competition, playtime, strength of the club. You do have exceptions, but it in this day and age when the Italian league is clearly behind, a strong domestic strategy is prudent.
 

CrimsonianKing

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Jan 16, 2013
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Well, you're always going to have more ease retaining Italians because of:
1) Language
2) Cultural fit
3) Wanting to be near family

For foreign players it often comes down to money. Sure there are other factors: language (I'm sure spanish speaking South American players prefer Spain all things held equal), strength of the competition, playtime, strength of the club. You do have exceptions, but it in this day and age when the Italian league is clearly behind, a strong domestic strategy is prudent.
This. Depending on where they're coming from some South Americans, Brazilians included, will still find the Italian League attractive. But as soon as they realize the grass is really greener on the other side they leave.

Personally I think the number one reason this keeps happening is because of the state the league is in.

For big names to want to stay the league has to be attractive, as much as it hurts to say this, meaning a strong Milan and a strong inter. This isn't Spain or Germany,teams don't even own their stadiums and those are falling apart and really empty most of the time.
 

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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This. Depending on where they're coming from some South Americans, Brazilians included, will still find the Italian League attractive. But as soon as they realize the grass is really greener on the other side they leave.

Personally I think the number one reason this keeps happening is because of the state the league is in.

For big names to want to stay the league has to be attractive, as much as it hurts to say this, meaning a strong Milan and a strong inter. This isn't Spain or Germany,teams don't even own their stadiums and those are falling apart and really empty most of the time.
It won't last long. Roma, Fiorentina, Calgiari, Milan, Inter, Sassuolo, Napoli are all in the process of improving their stadium situation. Obviously sick Italian law doesn't help but sooner or later it will be done. Not to mention us and Udinese already having new private arenas.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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In theory we could make a great mercato by selling Bonucci for 80M - We all like Bonucci and he is definitely one of the top 3 CB in the world BUT the thing is we are pretty covered at the back and that 80M could easily get us some WC signing in midfield
We have RB LW RW CM which we need to attend if we are using 4-2-3-1
RM CM AM if we play 3-4-2-1
and if we go 4-3-1-2 or 4-3-2-1 We could even go for 2CM 1AM
Imagine what we could do with 80M extra...
Im not saying sell Bonucci but I am saying selling Bonucci could turn out to be a very positive thing as the truth is we are pretty covered at the back and we could also give Rugani and later Caldara the experience needed to grow (more room for them)
 

Hydde

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Mar 6, 2003
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Theory:

Our Italian players for whatever reason are the ones that stay longer or at least are easier to persuade to stay long term. Don't know why we can't with foreign players maybe it's because our league is taking forever to grow again and Spain/England has more to offer in that sense (Germany too). I think that's why we are suddenly back on the market for more Italian players because long term we will have less of an issue keeping them? Just throwing ideas out there...

Well, you're always going to have more ease retaining Italians because of:
1) Language
2) Cultural fit
3) Wanting to be near family

For foreign players it often comes down to money. Sure there are other factors: language (I'm sure spanish speaking South American players prefer Spain all things held equal), strength of the competition, playtime, strength of the club. You do have exceptions, but it in this day and age when the Italian league is clearly behind, a strong domestic strategy is prudent.

This. :tup:


Also I think that sadly we have reached a ceiling in terms if growing. We are in a position that our team is very competitive, but for the next and final step..we lack the funds. This make the situation difficult for marotta and the board because the players we need to win the CL are expensive in transfer and demand huge wages.

This doesnt mean we cant improve as a team, so thats why you see us going after younger players in hopes of them turning into stars. The problem with this is that once they turn into stars, we will most likely receive huge offers for them and they wil be offered huge sums of money to tempt them abandon ship. In a way this helps us because we raise funds to continue developing the team by reinvesting it, but the sad part is that until we find a way to compete financially with the bigger economic teams..we will continue being a top tier seller.

We also are facing the problem of our current stars getting tempted by new adventures and money. And again..this also has to do with us being so dominant in serie A....after a couple campaigns i can understand why some foreign players look for new motivations to continue pushing themselves into new objectives. We have won everything in italy many times...theres nothing to prove nor to win. Not until our rivals put us by the sword and force us to compete to our limits.

We simply cant find a way to continue growing, and what we hace reached in earnings from the CL is our ceiling. As long as serie A continue being piss poor...we will be limited.

We can just hope that this new branding strategy gives some results... but until i see them, we cant know how substantial that income will be.

For the time being...im pretty sure we will try to continue pounving on opportunities, not so expensive ones... and at the same time trying to stay competitive until our limits let us.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Just went to chelsea forums and majority are convinced he will renew
Alex Sandro? Well yeah that's a natural reaction of a fan, show pessimism so any potential negative seems less of a blow.

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We are linked with Aurier (Calciomercato.it)
LOL, that would be one of the least likely Juve signings for some time.
 
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