Here's a CRAZY thought... just stick with me here.
Juventus could have both of them!!
Crazy concept, I know.
Juventus could have both of them!!
Crazy concept, I know.
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Delete this post and make it again when Yildiz shows consistent ability to have more then 1 goal and assist in a league season. He is young and I like him, talented player, give him time. But until he shows tangible impact and end product, we all need to chill on him.
He needs to prove he can start first and foremost, before even thinking he can compete with players like Chiesa who at their worst most criticised state is 2nd best scorer and attacker in the team. Player who created his own shots and finished.
Yeah we need to come to our senses and reinstate him in the team and negotiate the salary. To me this hard stance is asinine. Like Nico Gonzalez is trash and the limited time I've seen him, he's not good and will never replace chiesa who can easily make the RW spot his own. This whole saga is pathetic
I really like Yildiz and am excited for his potential. I just don't understand the need to act like he has to be the focal point moving forward and everyone else sucks. Everyone acts like we dont need Chiesa because we have Yildiz.
If this club had a clue, Yildiz would be 1 of 4 wingers that will play a lot and contribute this season. We went into the summer with Chiesa, Soule, Yildiz, and Weah. I would have been really happy going with that foursome this season. Certainly not world class, but a lot of excitement and something we could hopefully build around.
We're now less than a week away from our first match and our only wingers are Yildiz and Weah, we're still publicly feuding with Chiesa in the media and won't let him play in games, and are on about plan Q for wingers in the transfer market.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING?!!?!?!?!
If this club had a clue, Yildiz would be 1 of 4 wingers that will play a lot and contribute this season. We went into the summer with Chiesa, Soule, Yildiz, and Weah. I would have been really happy going with that foursome this season. Certainly not world class, but a lot of excitement and something we could hopefully build around.
We're now less than a week away from our first match and our only wingers are Yildiz and Weah, we're still publicly feuding with Chiesa in the media and won't let him play in games, and are on about plan Q for wingers in the transfer market.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING?!!?!?!?!
I haven't read from anyone he's ok with Gatti as a starter?
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Not saying Yildiz is better. Read what I said... I'd pick him in my team instead of Chiesa rn.
One guy wants to be overpaid and has been declining for years while whining over not playing in his position. No one wants him, even for 15 million and he doesn't want a bridge deal while his contract is ending.
The other is on the rise and is much much cheaper while half of Europe is after him and he's on a 5 year deal(?)
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Here's a thought: Chiesa could have signed an extension. Crazy, I know and it would've been lovely
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I refer you to the reply above. Circumstances. Yes, I'd rather keep a 30 mil talent than lose a player on a free...
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Not saying Yildiz is better. Read what I said... I'd pick him in my team instead of Chiesa rn.
One guy wants to be overpaid and has been declining for years while whining over not playing in his position. No one wants him, even for 15 million and he doesn't want a bridge deal while his contract is ending.
The other is on the rise and is much much cheaper while half of Europe is after him and he's on a 5 year deal(?)
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Here's a thought: Chiesa could have signed an extension. Crazy, I know and it would've been lovely
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I refer you to the reply above. Circumstances. Yes, I'd rather keep a 30 mil talent than lose a player on a free...
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Exactly. Even with budget and financial problems, I still can't understand what the heck we doing with our wingers when we hired a coach that strictly used them unlike previous one. It's by far the biggiest priority of the entire project, and 6 days before league starts we have a talented kid and a speedster that's the worst player in the roster as only available players.
I knew AM and Koop would take longer time due to investment and the rocky relationship with Atalanta. That if they fail with CB signing for now can go with temp solutions etc. But leaving our winger sitaution hanging we need 2 starting wingers and need minimum 4 in the roster is bizzare.
I given up on them making up with Chiesa in time and start using him again. So we badly need to focus on signing wingers, atleast one. And if we can't get a 2nd winger we must absolutely re introduce chiesa to the fold, at that point don't care if he leaves for free next summer or re signs. We can't afford to limit and piss away our capabilities as a team over a full season.
I only brought that up because you levied the Cronios nationalism criticism, otherwise it's not really relevant to the discussion tbh. Off the top of my head Fagioli got a raise for commiting crimes though, so there's that. Be regardless of raises, there were still players making more than him while having less of an impact. Even now there is still Vlahovic making more than DOUBLE his salary. Is that deserved? You can't keep looking at it in a matter of deserved or not, it's just not how it works. You'd be mad too if you had a coworker making that more more, asked for half, and were told no it's impossible.
The bold is sort of contradictory, no? If you remember our matches from last season where Chiesa was starting, our plan seemed to be give the ball to him, and have him run forward and try to dribble through 3 or 4 players by himself which is obviously impossible since he's not prime Messi. Then of course some Tuzzers would get mad at him and talk shit for this, but that's another issue. In no world has Rabiot been more useful though. More healthy, sure. Useful as he casually walks about the pitch and lets opposing players run through him, I disagree. But even then, we did issue him that whole "ultimatum" before the Euros to renew at the same wage, aka higher than what Chiesa is currently asking for, no?
No, Rabiot is a cunt for being a weak, lackadaisical bitch for all those years while being one of our highest earners, talking some bullshit about not seeing "the real Rabiot" yet in interviews. Physically blessed, but one of the laziest players on Earth, that is unforgivable to me. Using the club as leverage is the least of the issues, hell we all do the same with our jobs.
I would also say this last paragraph is also a bitch contradictory, they can't be more loyal and it also be an untrue generalization.
Speaking of loyalty though, I keep seeing the argument about how we were "loyal" to Chiesa while he was injured. How is that, exactly? By not attempting to rescind his contract or sell him for a huge loss? This club did nothing out of the ordinary on that front, Fagioli's situation would be an example of that.
No, €20-25 or so considering the circumstances. I'd love to have him back too, would add a whole new dimension to our attack that we've been sorely missing...well since he left.
Personally I think it's premature to be saying that, but regardless we'd still need both anyway to start opposite each other. I'd love to see that happen regularly too, it would be great to watch.
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Not picking on Robee, but it's wild how short people's memories are.
The bold is sort of contradictory, no? If you remember our matches from last season where Chiesa was starting, our plan seemed to be give the ball to him, and have him run forward and try to dribble through 3 or 4 players by himself which is obviously impossible since he's not prime Messi. Then of course some Tuzzers would get mad at him and talk shit for this, but that's another issue. In no world has Rabiot been more useful though. More healthy, sure. Useful as he casually walks about the pitch and lets opposing players run through him, I disagree. But even then, we did issue him that whole "ultimatum" before the Euros to renew at the same wage, aka higher than what Chiesa is currently asking for, no?
No, Rabiot is a cunt for being a weak, lackadaisical bitch for all those years while being one of our highest earners, talking some bullshit about not seeing "the real Rabiot" yet in interviews. Physically blessed, but one of the laziest players on Earth, that is unforgivable to me. Using the club as leverage is the least of the issues, hell we all do the same with our jobs.
I would also say this last paragraph is also a bitch contradictory, they can't be more loyal and it also be an untrue generalization.
Speaking of loyalty though, I keep seeing the argument about how we were "loyal" to Chiesa while he was injured. How is that, exactly? By not attempting to rescind his contract or sell him for a huge loss? This club did nothing out of the ordinary on that front, Fagioli's situation would be an example of that.
No, €20-25 or so considering the circumstances. I'd love to have him back too, would add a whole new dimension to our attack that we've been sorely missing...well since he left.
Personally I think it's premature to be saying that, but regardless we'd still need both anyway to start opposite each other. I'd love to see that happen regularly too, it would be great to watch.
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Not picking on Robee, but it's wild how short people's memories are.
Hello mr. ChatGPT, there is this forum member who made a long ass post. Would you be so kind to summarize it in 2-3 sentences?
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The forum member challenges the fairness of salary distribution within the team, noting that some players, like Vlahovic, earn significantly more than others despite having less impact. They criticize the club’s handling of players like Rabiot and Chiesa, arguing that Rabiot’s performance and attitude were disappointing given his high salary, and question the notion of loyalty shown to Chiesa during his injury. They feel that the club's actions, such as not rescinding Chiesa’s contract, were standard rather than exceptional.
Chat gpt:
The forum member challenges the fairness of salary distribution within the team, noting that some players, like Vlahovic, earn significantly more than others despite having less impact. They criticize the club’s handling of players like Rabiot and Chiesa, arguing that Rabiot’s performance and attitude were disappointing given his high salary, and question the notion of loyalty shown to Chiesa during his injury. They feel that the club's actions, such as not rescinding Chiesa’s contract, were standard rather than exceptional.
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