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[JCK]

Desperation? He himself said he was told in January he was going to be sold...

Source?

 

Buy on AliExpress.com

[Alin]

I am certainly not defending everything. Explaining why is not even agreeing with it but people are clearly accustomed to label and put others into boxes here. Either you're a hater or a defender, nothing in between and a post without an opinion can not be made.

If I say; Rugani's contract was extended to lower his salary what makes it easier to sell him. I' m saying just that. Not "it was a good move because..." But that final sentence is exactly what people read in here.

I actually also try to analize from all angles and look for the actual reasons behind certain questionable moves, i rarely go all out against a transfer target/move, but in some cases choosing to ignore the most important facts and risk factors that strongly outweighs the positives just for the sake of the argument is tiring and is what gets people to label you in one way or another i guess.

 

[Robee]

Source?

For instance:

https://www.juvefc.com/soule-admits...at-juventus-wanted-to-sell-him-since-january/

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I actually also try to analize from all angles and look for the actual reasons behind certain questionable moves, i rarely go all out against a transfer target/move, but in some cases choosing to ignore the most important facts and risk factors that strongly outweighs the positives just for the sake of the argument is tiring and is what gets people to label you in one way or another i guess.

I guess that's their problem. I don't ignore the most important facts. There's no point in mentioning them for a gazillionth time. Again does not mean I don't agree with them but there's almost always two sides and one is very rarely mentioned which I feel compelled to do...

For instance the Kalulu injuries. But as a physio, I'm not a doom and gloom thinker too. He's young and can certainly be revived physically. Will he? Time will tell and that is the only right way to judge for now because no one knows how it will pan out. Ofc it feels and is disappointing after coming from Calafiori and Todibo links... But those are also realistically out of our league rn.

 

[iosono.bianconero]

My expectations are so low that I am expecting this to be the situation on 1 September.

NO KOOP
NO NICO


Chiesa with Saelemakers Swap
Kalulu on loan + Obligation
Keeping Rugani and De Sciglio
Djalo on loan
Give Artur on loan we pay 60-70% of his salary
Paying Scezny to leave.
Keep Mckennie as Right winger to switch with Weah.

And then on the 5th september the first news will be how we are confident on buying Koopmeiners on January.

 

[JuveJay]

NO KOOP
NO NICO

Would this make Giuntoli a NicomKoop?

 

[Akshen]

quick reminder

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

we really needed a trump impersonator on tuz. love it

Well, folks, let me tell you, we have a tremendous situation here. When you look at someone with the incredible talents, the unparalleled skills, the absolute genius of a mind—yes, I'm talking about myself, I mean who else could it be?—you realize that this person should not just be the sporting director, but, honestly, the coach and the fitness trainer for Juventus. You see, it's all about tremendous talent, the best talent. We're talking about a level of intelligence and fitness that is off the charts. Nobody, I mean nobody, understands sports and fitness like I do. If you look at my track record—tremendous results, absolutely fantastic—there's no doubt that I should be running the whole show. We’re talking about a winning strategy here, folks, and let me tell you, Juventus would be better than ever. People are saying it, they’re talking about it, and it’s true. It’s time to put the best talent in the best positions. Believe me, I would make Juventus great again, and that's a fact.

 

[JCK]

For instance:

https://www.juvefc.com/soule-admits...at-juventus-wanted-to-sell-him-since-january/

So the desperation started in January. That explains the loan deals that we did back then.

 

[Alin]

But it is also true people need to be way more realistic in here. We're in the same boat as last season; CL qualification will be it for us apart from a miracle.
Combine that with getting financially stable again while building a young team and getting a more recognisable pattern of play as a basis to work with and we'll finally have a restart.

That i can sure agree on, given our financial limitations some do need to be a bit more realistic about what we can and can’t do at this stage, so lowering expectations is a good place to start, just that sometimes it seems as we are the ones sabotaging ourselves in the squad building process which is what gets people to overreact.

 

[Osman]

Nope, i already called it that Nico Gonzalez was the original plan D, this Sassuolo guy is probably plan E at best.

And that’s just for the RW/RM primarily, not even counting the natural LW’s we’ve been linked with.

Lauriente is an LW primarily, can fill in as CF. It's surprising he stayed in Sassoulo in Serie B so far lol, atleast with Berardi it's cuz of his injury. If no Serie A team buys him my guess is he goes to French league or Turkish league.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

More meetings to discuss other meetings. Fuck this dilly dallying and incompetence. My suspicions are correct - the higher your position, the more of a clueless prick you become.

18,000 meetings all to end up playing in the CL with Kalulu, Lauriente and Saelemakers

 

[Alin]

Lauriente is an LW primarily, can fill in as CF. It's surprising he stayed in Sassoulo in Serie B so far lol, atleast with Berardi it's cuz of his injury. If no Serie A team buys him my guess is he goes to French league or Turkish league.

So our alternative for failing to get a natural RW is getting a natural LW.

On a more serious note, think he can be a decent backup to have, if he will be the 2nd winger we get after the main top target(Nico Gonzalez in this case or whoever else that is as proven) i think it’s actually quite reasonable.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

When we inevitably miss out on signing Koop, I want your top funny (but likely) replacements Giuntoli will scramble to panic buy?

 

[Osman]

Yeah Lauriente is decently talented LW, more interesting cheaper backup plan 2nd winger signing alternative then the likes of Saelesmaeker lol If we assume most of budget goes to other winger signing.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

When we inevitably miss out on signing Koop, I want your top funny (but likely) replacements Giuntoli will scramble to panic buy?

Cristante

 

[Osman]

When we inevitably miss out on signing Koop, I want your top funny (but likely) replacements Giuntoli will scramble to panic buy?

Allegris son, that he was obsessed with, that Marotta wanted to sign badly too just before we got CR7 back then. The one and only:

 

[Robee]

That i can sure agree on, given our financial limitations some do need to be a bit more realistic about what we can and can’t do at this stage, so lowering expectations is a good place to start, just that sometimes it seems as we are the ones sabotaging ourselves in the squad building process which is what gets people to overreact.

We're def in a tough spot and I think it's because we were overreaching in our targets. We wanted top targets; Juve quality like Calafiori, Todibo or Koopmeiners. But it's not the reality we live in and as our sales didn't go fast enough (apart from the young guys) we couldn't buy them, although they wanted to come. We'll always have that pull but we need financial stability first and foremost. And it will take time. Until then we'll have to settle for some (not all!) gambles and utility players as well.

Right now, we need Koop and Gonzalez or at least a similar quality winger + 2 more backups. Anything less will be a failure in terms of feeling and probably sporting results too.

 

[Alin]

I guess that's their problem. I don't ignore the most important facts. There's no point in mentioning them for a gazillionth time. Again does not mean I don't agree with them but there's almost always two sides and one is very rarely mentioned which I feel compelled to do...

For instance the Kalulu injuries. But as a physio, I'm not a doom and gloom thinker too. He's young and can certainly be revived physically. Will he? Time will tell and that is the only right way to judge for now because no one knows how it will pan out. Ofc it feels and is disappointing after coming from Calafiori and Todibo links... But those are also realistically out of our league rn.

That’s the thing, this is Juve we are talking about, our recent history is filled with star players that are injury prone and backups that are just as injured, missing when we need them most, even those that came without an injury history still left this place with at least one, so aside from the reasonable thing to do which is to wait and see as only time will tell there is every reason for people to have concerns and be against this type of moves that almost never end up well for us.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Allegris son, that he was obsessed with, that Marotta wanted to sign badly too just before we got CR7 back then. The one and only:

would be sad that he can’t be reunited with Daddy Max

My random name generator…Antonin Barak

 

[Robee]

That’s the thing, this is Juve we are talking about, our recent history is filled with star players that are injury prone and backups that are just as injured, missing when we need them most, even those that came without an injury history still left this place with at least one, so aside from the reasonable thing to do which is to wait and see as only time will tell there is every reason for people to have concerns and be against this type of moves that almost never end up well for us.

Well, that is not much of an arguement ofc. In medicine every case is to be looked at individually. Because it happened to one player (often much older than Kalulu) doesn't mean it will happen again. We also had many revived careers. So again it goes both ways and we'll have to hope all goes well...

Plus there's levels to this game. In Kalulu's case it was only one big injury that really caused this and a soft-tissue injury that usually heals 100% too. That's what medicals are for. If the risk is too big, fuck him...