Summer Mercato season 2024-25 (72 Viewers)

[rainhard]

What the fuck

I dont really get what good with Hasa, his touch is very rough, when he dribble it seems just he like to buldoze everything in front of him. Maybe sometimes he can get past one player but then he will lose the ball by the second defender. He is on his last year of contract, better to sell him for some money and get some more from sell on clause % if he get more playing time elsewhere and attract big sales later

The maximum for him in my eyes is to become someone like Fabrizio Miccoli

 

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[Nomuken]

It’s looking like shit, little worried. Looking as bad as our away kits and home shorts.

 

[Xperd]

A lot of big clubs haven't made moves yet. I sense that one big move could unlock other teams' mercato and sadly, we are among those 'other' teams

Like this for example:


They sell Osimhen and suddenly they have a lot of money to play with.

Teams like Union, Chelsea etc still have to sell a lot of players so acting like only JJ are in the situation of having to sell many players is ridiculous.

We are in this situation because of our delicate financial situation not because Giuntoli lacks any 'vision or planning'

 

[Alin]

Sell?

What the fuck

Hands are a bit tied, only reason he is not already a free agent is because we triggered an automatic one year renewal clause, a loan is not an option anymore, so either we start involving and playing him regularly with the first team to bet on him maybe signing a new long term contract during the season or cash in now to avoid losing him for free next summer.

 

[Mokku]

I can't see Poopminers having much impact unless he has fast wingers like he did at Atalanta, therefore, will we even see the best of him with the current squad? We need two quality wingers and adequate backups.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

The club has just woken up from a 3 year coma. 3 years of pure incompetency on and off the pitch and all I read here is people 'unconvinced' by the new signings without a ball being kicked and talking about how the squad is incomplete like as if the mess created by the previous management can all be cleared in one freaking season.

Guintoli has been here for 1 of those years of so called incompetence.
And the epitome of incompetence was how the Allegri situation was dealt with.

This is Giuntoli's first proper transfer window since taking over at JJ

Has he made an effort in significantly upgrading the midfield ? A resounding YES

Second, or even third depending on how you look at things.
Whether or not we'll have an improved the team remains to be seen.

But considering that this is the guy who "reinforced" the team last winter by signing Djalo & Alcaraz, my hopes aren't sky high.

Has he reduced our wage bill and trying to get our finances in order? Absolutely

Agreed.

This will take years to fix but all I can say is we are on the right track.

We are on the right track based on what exactly? If we're in 10th position and out of the CL by half december we'd very much be on the wrong track.

 

[Robee]

Guintoli has been here for 1 of those years of so called incompetence.
And the epitome of incompetence was how the Allegri situation was dealt with.



Second, or even third depending on how you look at things.
Whether or not we'll have an improved the team remains to be seen.

But considering that this is the guy who "reinforced" the team last winter by signing Djalo & Alcaraz, my hopes aren't sky high.

There's not much he could've done in terms of the squad in that year without any budget and inside info seeing as the whole management was gone... Some realism is needed.
Agreed on the Allegri situation being handled awfully.

Believe and hope

 

[Orgut]

There's not much he could've done in terms of the squad in that year without any budget and inside info seeing as the whole management was gone... Some realism is needed.
Agreed on the Allegri situation being handled awfully.

Believe and hope

I agree with the budget and Giuntuli but Allegri situation is a bit different to assess.
Allegri as for what he has done and him being at the helm for years should have got more respect BUT What he is done is an assault and as a prestigious club (although not looking like it at recent years) we have to condemn it and sending him away immediately must have happened.
Financially we are said to be in need of every million so you can understand when a business acts like a business.
I cant really say it is the right decision as there is also compassion for someone who led us for years but I cant say it was the wrong decision either as it was needed.

In any case Allegri back is hopefully gone now.

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Guintoli has been here for 1 of those years of so called incompetence.
And the epitome of incompetence was how the Allegri situation was dealt with.



Second, or even third depending on how you look at things.
Whether or not we'll have an improved the team remains to be seen.

But considering that this is the guy who "reinforced" the team last winter by signing Djalo & Alcaraz, my hopes aren't sky high.



Agreed.



We are on the right track based on what exactly? If we're in 10th position and out of the CL by half december we'd very much be on the wrong track.

Did you notive Djalo and Alcaraz were low cost operations? We didnt have the funds to do more than that so he just went for luck. Alcaraz was actually rated and was considered to be a good deal but it didnt work. I cant really blame him for that.

 

[GrandeGigi]

I just think our priority is top 4 again so what does the keeper matter. Pick any of them and with a decent team in front you'll make top 4. Keepers come and go anyways, no guarantee this new guy is a lock.

I just think a top attack is much more important

I personally think it’s a little simplistic to solely target a top 4 finish. In the past 3 years we’ve just sat deep, chucked aimless crosses in the box, waited for mistakes and hoped for the best.

The minimum aim should be top 4, whilst also developing a consistent style of play we can take forward and developing/improving our current crop of players.

If the keeper is a key part of implementing a style that we are looking to play in line with modern football that incorporates playing out confidently from the back, playing with a high line at times with a moderate to high press.
Then perhaps the importance of integrating a new goalkeeper early who fits this instead of a 1 year stop gap who doesn’t fit the mould quite as well is being understated.

Pep prioritised Bravo, Klopp with Allison, Arteta later on with Raya. Sure they had more funds to spend elsewhere too but they saw that change as fairly crucial early on in their process.

 

[MikeM]

Lion did it again.

Lion is usually right. Look at Chiesa

 

[Scottish]

Weird they didn't put a filter on Vlahovic

 

[MikeM]

Your post would make sense if we spent a significant portion of our budget on the goalkeeper but we haven't.

Szceszny's contract expires next summer, his wages are a burden on the books, and we needed to sign a goalie this year or the next anyway.

De Gregorio was a very good opportunity given that the structure of the deal was heavily favorable for us.

I don't understand why people are creating this illusion that we prioritized signing a goalkeeper over other areas? This was an easy deal to do, simple as. That doesn't mean the club wasn't focused on reinforcing other key areas which they actively happen to be doing, it's just that the negotiations are a bit complicated atm given that we don't have as big a budget to work with.

What started of as an elaborate troll attempt by Lion is turning into legitimate whining from people over signing a GK on loan. This is starting to sound silly really.

We are absolutely scrounging loose change from our couch right now to improve the squad. It just doesn't make sense to not ear mark the attack right away imo. Our first moves were Djalo and Alcaraz and renewing Rugani. All useless. The situation was staring us in the face. We have to monetize Soule apparently and Chiesa not renewing.

I'm not against the keeper but maybe look in that area at the end of August, instead we're looking for the attack at the end of August.

Worst case you get stuck with Tek for another year but at least you know he's viable.

Now we put Chiesa in the stands so when you guy buy an attacker, the seller has us by the balls. And they know we have to dump Tek so that buyer has us by the balls. Meanwhile still scrounging for cash.

Going to play the first month in Italy with weah creating, huge step back unnecessarily imo

 

[Xperd]

We are absolutely scrounging loose change from our couch right now to improve the squad. It just doesn't make sense to not ear mark the attack right away imo. Our first moves were Djalo and Alcaraz and renewing Rugani. All useless. The situation was staring us in the face. We have to monetize Soule apparently and Chiesa not renewing.

I'm not against the keeper but maybe look in that area at the end of August, instead we're looking for the attack at the end of August.

Worst case you get stuck with Tek for another year but at least you know he's viable.

Now we put Chiesa in the stands so when you guy buy an attacker, the seller has us by the balls. And they know we have to dump Tek so that buyer has us by the balls. Meanwhile still scrounging for cash.

Going to play the first month in Italy with weah creating, huge step back unnecessarily imo

With what money exactly? Especially in a summer where both the Euros and Copa were ongoing and selling teams would rather negotiate after the tournaments have concluded.

Seriously what did you expect? Nico Williams? Overpay for Sancho?


Look at how many big teams have actually made reinforcements in attack. You can hardly find any. It's actually been a dry barren mercato in that regard.

We literally are scavengers in this mercato dependent on moves other big teams make in the transfer market.

It's very easy to draw imaginary scenarios in your head and criticize Giuntoli for not prioritising the attack but truth is we are not financially equipped to make big moves in a slow moving market.

And suppose he somehow did, he would be criticized for neglecting the midfield again so what's the point?

 

[JuveJay]

MDG was clearly an opportunity move. They saw a very good Italian keeper come up for a reasonable price and went for it early. Otherwise we're kicking the can down the road to next summer where there might not be a similar keeper available for that price. Giuntoli also seems to love MDG, judging by what Galliani said.

I'd also argue against any moves for the end of August, where possible, but we'll probably have to make at least one if we are trying to overhaul the squad. Yes you can grab a bargain for players who clubs want to shift, but if it's a player they don't want to sell then you pay over the odds. Maybe the club is thinking the likes of Sancho might be more affordable deeper into the window, but opportunities also disappear. I'm more concerned about the players we'll be trying to move at the end of August, and the cut price deals we'll end up conceding. The club have clearly made it known now that several players aren't part of their plans, and so we can't expect top dollar for any of them.

 

[Suns]

The sales part has been so awful. We've been acting so desperate in the market to sell our players and have essentially been inviting teams to low ball us. We're so transparent and negotating with us must be so easy, everybody knows what we're trying to do, who we're trying to sign and who we need to sell in order to achieve those targets in the market.

 

[Bjerknes]

We spent way too much time trying to sign Douglas Luiz and Alisha Lehmann, now we’re going into panic mode.

 

[Siamak]

We spent way too much time trying to sign Douglas Luiz and Alisha Lehmann, now we’re going into panic mode.

The downfall started from the day that we keep buying players nobody was interested in.

 

[Akshen]

The sales part has been so awful. We've been acting so desperate in the market to sell our players and have essentially been inviting teams to low ball us. We're so transparent and negotating with us must be so easy, everybody knows what we're trying to do, who we're trying to sign and who we need to sell in order to achieve those targets in the market.

And which of our sales went down easy or we sold for a low amount? Soule and Huijsen were dragging for weeks and we still managed to get good fees for them. The rest were brilliant sales, especially Kean and Kaio.

 

[ilmetronome]

After getting Luiz and thuram, Koopmeiners should be last in our priority. We should prioritize wingers now after selling soule and about to sell chiesa.
If the rumours is true about chiesa just for 15m, i think Motta should lower his ego and try to utilize him instead.

 

[Robee]

I agree with the budget and Giuntuli but Allegri situation is a bit different to assess.
Allegri as for what he has done and him being at the helm for years should have got more respect BUT What he is done is an assault and as a prestigious club (although not looking like it at recent years) we have to condemn it and sending him away immediately must have happened.
Financially we are said to be in need of every million so you can understand when a business acts like a business.
I cant really say it is the right decision as there is also compassion for someone who led us for years but I cant say it was the wrong decision either as it was needed.

In any case Allegri back is hopefully gone now.

It's not the decision in itself. He should've made it clear Allegri was leaving after the season months before. That would've lifted a lot of pressure and avoided that outburst. So yes, Giuntoli is partly to blame for that as well imo.

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We spent way too much time trying to sign Douglas Luiz and Alisha Lehmann, now we’re going into panic mode.

Says who?

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After getting Luiz and thuram, Koopmeiners should be last in our priority. We should prioritize wingers now after selling soule and about to sell chiesa.
If the rumours is true about chiesa just for 15m, i think Motta should lower his ego and try to utilize him instead.

This is clearly decided above Motta's head imo. Remember we tried to extend him.