Summer Mercato season 2024-25 (79 Viewers)

[Suns]

And also, sometimes you take the opportunity once it appears and then you think about the rest. If people in our club see this keeper as a generational talent, or as someone who is/will be great, it's completely fine to buy him even if he wasn't a necessity at the moment. Like how we bought Zlatan, despite having Del Piero, Trezeguet, Di Vaio and Miccoli in the team.

We're in no position to do that though with our financial troubles. We're not the Juve from 20 years ago. There is a reason why we have to sell Soule before getting Koop, or Huijsen before Todibo. Signing a new starting goalkeeper without the commitment from another club to take Tek makes no sense.
Also goalkeeper transfers are some of the most complex because essentially every team has space for 1 starting goalkeeper so finding a new club isn't always as straight forward as outfield players.

And all of this is without taking into account the massive headache we have on the wing positions where we potentially have to bring in 3-4 new players if Chiesa leaves.

I like the the players that Giuntoli have brought in, I really do. I just so far have a hard time understanding the full picture.

 

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[Turk_Bianconero]

I like the the players that Giuntoli have brought in, I really do. I just so far have a hard time understanding the full picture.

i imagine this picture as a clown juggling balls while his sidekick is pickpocketing the crowd who are focused on his trick.

 

[Lion]

Such an embarrassing post, find new material already.

Plusvalenza is only needed for the books/FFP of that specific season. In that regard we spent 4 mil on Di Gregorio. His salary is 2 mil while Woj is on 6,5. You do the math.

So the 14 mil is for next season when we'd have to spend anyway... What is wrong with that. If we hadn't made this deal, we'd be looking for a goalie with a hole in the squad. Hence every team upping the price.

The one thing that remains is offloading Pole without contributing to the salary...

ok guys sorry i was wrong and you are right

do you guys remember for past few months club has asked mckennnie to renew at lower salary and refuse to give higher salary? because they had no money
do you guys remember they renewed woj at lower salary at contract renewal because they didn't have money to give him
do you guys remember they are not renewing chiesa salary because they have no money to give him
they are trying to lower vlahovic salary because they have no money to give him
they tried shipping mckennie for douglas luiz and had to scramble to find alternatives because they don't have any money to make up the transfer difference of 15m for him, but sure they can afford 18m for a goalie.

so sorry guys those things above didn't happen. none of those things happened you guys are right juventus can afford signing a goalie without selling existing one first. juventus has lots and lots of money.

 

[Robee]

We're in no position to do that though with our financial troubles. We're not the Juve from 20 years ago. There is a reason why we have to sell Soule before getting Koop, or Huijsen before Todibo. Signing a new starting goalkeeper without the commitment from another club to take Tek makes no sense.
Also goalkeeper transfers are some of the most complex because essentially every team has space for 1 starting goalkeeper so finding a new club isn't always as straight forward as outfield players.

And all of this is without taking into account the massive headache we have on the wing positions where we potentially have to bring in 3-4 new players if Chiesa leaves.

I like the the players that Giuntoli have brought in, I really do. I just so far have a hard time understanding the full picture.

Aside from the wage bill dropping, the sportive aspect can't be disregarded too... Motta needs a ball playing goalie, simple as that.

ok guys sorry i was wrong and you are right

do you guys remember for past few months club has asked mckennnie to renew at lower salary and refuse to give higher salary? because they had no money
do you guys remember they renewed woj at lower salary at contract renewal because they didn't have money to give him
do you guys remember they are not renewing chiesa salary because they have no money to give him
they are trying to lower vlahovic salary because they have no money to give him
they tried shipping mckennie for douglas luiz and had to scramble to find alternatives because they don't have any money to make up the transfer difference of 15m for him, but sure they can afford 18m for a goalie.

so sorry guys those things above didn't happen. none of those things happened you guys are right juventus can afford signing a goalie without selling existing one first. juventus has lots and lots of money.

Thank you for summarizing the trend in us trying to lower the wages. Exactly why this is being done. Aside from the obvious sporting reason. Judge after the mercato. If we're stuck with Szczesny, there will be a reason to complain. Now, you're just sounding like a whiny old sack while there's no reason to complain; Szczesny has said so himself he'll move on because the club needs to.

 

[Lion]

reminder that kostic, arthur, de siglio, rugani, djalo

are all still part of the club. their wages still on the wage bill. where did they go?

 

[Robee]

reminder that kostic, arthur, de siglio, rugani, djalo

are all still part of the club. their wages still on the wage bill. where did they go?

Reminder; this is a Szczesny discussion we're having and those players have nothing to do with him or Di Gregorio. Or you'd like us to solely buy scraps at deadline day of the mercato after we finally actually sold everyone? Because a lot of those guys are overpaid and very hard to move.

 

[Lion]

listen you guys can't make up your mind. one moment you say club needs to lower wage bill badly, the next moment you say club can afford to add to wage bill BEFORE making sure the wage bill is reduced in the position that already had 3 players in it and wasn't a massive priority.

 

[Xperd]

I thought this is the summer where JJ fans should be rejoicing after 3 nightmarish seasons. Finally got rid of a terrorist coach, hired one of the more promising coaches in the market, significantly reduced our wage bill and made huge strides in significantly upgrading the midfield department which has been horrendous for years.

But all I'm reading is a bunch of muppets bitching about signing one of the best GK's in the league on a fucking loan.

If we had Man City money, all our rumored targets would be posing for photographs at the club right now and jabroni's like Lion would be hailing Giuntoli for 'prioritising' targets.

Anyone with a little bit of common sense will understand that most directors operating on a budget will clear the 'easier' deals out of the way first. It's been stated several times that Szczesny's wages is a burden on our wage bill and the cost to buy Di Gregorio permanently will factor into next season's budget.

But nah, let's ignore all of those facts and bitch about Giuntoli not prioritising signing CM's and wingers like as if he's not already doing it and as if it's THAT easy.

As for the outgoing sales, there's still over a month left for that to happen and we have already sold/released like 7-8 players as we speak while pocketing €80-€90M in the process so I don't see any problem here.

Honestly, some of you guys really deserve Allegri for the next 5 years.

 

[Akshen]

I thought this is the summer where JJ fans should be rejoicing after 3 nightmarish seasons. Finally got rid of a terrorist coach, hired one of the more promising coaches in the market, significantly reduced our wage bill and made huge strides in significantly upgrading the midfield department which has been horrendous for years.

But all I'm reading is a bunch of muppets bitching about signing one of the best GK's in the league on a fucking loan.

If we had Man City money, all our rumored targets would be posing for photographs at the club right now and jabroni's like Lion would be hailing Giuntoli for 'prioritising' targets.

Anyone with a little bit of common sense will understand that most directors operating on a budget will clear the 'easier' deals out of the way first. It's been stated several times that Szczesny's wages is a burden on our wage bill and the cost to buy Di Gregorio permanently will factor into next season's budget.

But nah, let's ignore all of those facts and bitch about Giuntoli not prioritising signing CM's and wingers like as if he's not already doing it and as if it's THAT easy.

As for the outgoing sales, there's still over a month left for that to happen and we have already sold/released like 7-8 players as we speak while pocketing €80-€90M in the process so I don't see any problem here.

Honestly, some of you guys really deserve Allegri for the next 5 years.

Exactly, also the football market is based on opportunities mostly. One sale at one club unlocks the series of transfers no one could foresee before. Just chill and wait, they are doing tremendous work so far.

 

[Lion]

so tuzzers now saying guintoli has to balance the books. has to be smart with money.

the club can't afford any wage increase for sake of increase. club can't afford to waste any money on transfers that don't make sense because money is an issue. that's what the guintoli throaters now claiming.

guintoli proceeds to add to wage bill and waste transfer on djalo who had a expiring contract and could have been had for free in 6 months and who made 1 appearance for juve all season

but go ahead tell me about how poor guintoli is struggling to save money

 

[rainhard]

Szczesny wages 12m per year, Di Gregorio loan 4m + 3.7m salary per year (total 7.7m this year)

Terminate Szczesny contract and give him 4.3m, total wage budget for #1 GK this year = 12m (7.7m+4.3m same as last year), total budget for #1 GK next year = 3.7m

Szczesny get around 2.2m net from this operation and he go to another club and get 4m net salary for 4 years contract so this year he still get 6.2m net just a little dent from what he usually get, he repay all of our kindness to him like what he stated in his post earlier this preseason, and he get another 3 years of 4m net as his retirement bonus (worst scenario)

Or we sell him to midtable EPL club for 5m and get long year contract with them (best scenario). or he go to Inter Miami for 5m and get 10m net per season for 2 season playing and retire with Messi there (the most happy ending scenario)

 

[Lion]

Szczesny wages 12m per year, Di Gregorio loan 4m + 3.7m salary per year (total 7.7m this year)

Terminate Szczesny contract and give him 4.3m, total wage budget for #1 GK this year = 12m (7.7m+4.3m same as last year), total budget for #1 GK next year = 3.7m

Szczesny get around 2.2m net from this operation and he go to another club and get 4m net salary for 4 years contract so this year he still get 6.2m net just a little dent from what he usually get, he repay all of our kindness to him like what he stated in his post earlier this preseason, and he get another 3 years of 4m net as his retirement bonus (worst scenario)

Or we sell him to midtable EPL club for 5m and get long year contract with them (best scenario). or he go to Inter Miami for 5m and get 10m net per season for 2 season playing and retire with Messi there (the most happy ending scenario)

and then you wake up

 

[rainhard]

and then you wake up

Check the news and this is happen to be true and then I will change my nickname to Nostradamus

I really think the worst case scenario is already in Giuntoli's hand when I read that message from Szczesny, but until the windows close we still trying to offload him. That is why Giuntoli safe Di Gregorio transfer for our top GK this season

 

[Robee]

listen you guys can't make up your mind. one moment you say club needs to lower wage bill badly, the next moment you say club can afford to add to wage bill BEFORE making sure the wage bill is reduced in the position that already had 3 players in it and wasn't a massive priority.

If we'd have to wait for all those sales there wouldn't be any players left we actually wanted, smartie. You'd be panic buying on August 31st.

I repeat; if Szczesny goes this mercato -which he, himself, reiterated he will- , we'll actually save 0,5 million including the loan fee.

 

[Amer]

If we'd have to wait for all those slaes there wouldn't be any players left we actually wanted, smartie. You'd be panic buying on August 31st.

I repeat; if Szczesny goes this mercato -which he, himself, reiterated he will- , we'll actually save 0,5 million including the loan fee.

The time for panic buys is not August 31, it's now sir.

May I remind you of 3:0 Nurnberg?

Good day sir.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Allegri has seriously traumatized tuz

 

[Robee]

The time for panic buys is not August 31, it's now sir.

May I remind you of 3:0 Nurnberg?

Good day sir.

The first friendly with half the team absent and the other half possibly searching and tired from the first few days/weeks of training under a new coach? You may remind me of that useless score any day. It holds no significance.

 

[Osman]

The first friendly with half the team absent and the other half possibly searching and tired from the first few days/weeks of training under a new coach? You may remind me of that useless score any day. It holds no significance.

He is being sarcastic. Amer is the Tuz court jester for this summer

 

[.zero]

I thought this is the summer where JJ fans should be rejoicing after 3 nightmarish seasons. Finally got rid of a terrorist coach, hired one of the more promising coaches in the market, significantly reduced our wage bill and made huge strides in significantly upgrading the midfield department which has been horrendous for years.

But all I'm reading is a bunch of muppets bitching about signing one of the best GK's in the league on a fucking loan.

If we had Man City money, all our rumored targets would be posing for photographs at the club right now and jabroni's like Lion would be hailing Giuntoli for 'prioritising' targets.

Anyone with a little bit of common sense will understand that most directors operating on a budget will clear the 'easier' deals out of the way first. It's been stated several times that Szczesny's wages is a burden on our wage bill and the cost to buy Di Gregorio permanently will factor into next season's budget.

But nah, let's ignore all of those facts and bitch about Giuntoli not prioritising signing CM's and wingers like as if he's not already doing it and as if it's THAT easy.

As for the outgoing sales, there's still over a month left for that to happen and we have already sold/released like 7-8 players as we speak while pocketing €80-€90M in the process so I don't see any problem here.

Honestly, some of you guys really deserve Allegri for the next 5 years.

Same cohort of folks who thought this team would be a scudetto contender last szn too

 

[DanielSz]

I thought this is the summer where JJ fans should be rejoicing after 3 nightmarish seasons. Finally got rid of a terrorist coach, hired one of the more promising coaches in the market, significantly reduced our wage bill and made huge strides in significantly upgrading the midfield department which has been horrendous for years.

But all I'm reading is a bunch of muppets bitching about signing one of the best GK's in the league on a fucking loan.

If we had Man City money, all our rumored targets would be posing for photographs at the club right now and jabroni's like Lion would be hailing Giuntoli for 'prioritising' targets.

Anyone with a little bit of common sense will understand that most directors operating on a budget will clear the 'easier' deals out of the way first. It's been stated several times that Szczesny's wages is a burden on our wage bill and the cost to buy Di Gregorio permanently will factor into next season's budget.

But nah, let's ignore all of those facts and bitch about Giuntoli not prioritising signing CM's and wingers like as if he's not already doing it and as if it's THAT easy.

As for the outgoing sales, there's still over a month left for that to happen and we have already sold/released like 7-8 players as we speak while pocketing €80-€90M in the process so I don't see any problem here.

Honestly, some of you guys really deserve Allegri for the next 5 years.

@Lion just loves losing, hence his appreciation for losers like Harry Kane. He wants to be miserable, so this summer is throwing him for a loop. Give him a break.