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Rockets

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It has been the weakest point since 2018 or so
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What we gonna have for next season? Bunch of kids with Loca and injury prone Pogba?
Basically yes, because I see quality, potential and heart in those kids. They also cover different positions in the midfield because of the variety of their play style and strengths.

On the other hand, we have to deal with the possible return of our on loan jabroni group aka Mckennie, Arthur, Zakaria. We are overstaffed with midfielders even if Rabiot leaves on a bosman and we send Paredes back to PSG.
 

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Clamarc

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Basically yes, because I see quality, potential and heart in those kids. They also cover different positions in the midfield because of the variety of their play style and strengths.

On the other hand, we have to deal with the possible return of our on loan jabroni group aka Mckennie, Arthur, Zakaria. We are overstaffed with midfielders even if Rabiot leaves on a bosman and we send Paredes back to PSG.
Ideally those 3 jabronis shouldn't be here next season and while them kids have potential we can't rely on them to deliver consistently for entire season as we see with Miretti right now. So IMO, we need 1 or 2 more experienced mid and one of them should be starter quality.

I would say RB + Mid > starter CB/ backup CB > LB > GK > winger > ST
 

Robee

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Ideally those 3 jabronis shouldn't be here next season and while them kids have potential we can't rely on them to deliver consistently for entire season as we see with Miretti right now. So IMO, we need 1 or 2 more experienced mid and one of them should be starter quality.

I would say RB + Mid > starter CB/ backup CB > LB > GK > winger > ST
I'd agree on 1 extra. Fagioli will be 23 for instance. At that age you should/can rely on them as a starter.

Miretti got injured after a tackle... That has nothing to do with his age. Miretti, Rovella, Fagioli, Pogba, Locatelli + 1 is a good group at this point. Adding 2 while we have so many other positions to fill is quite unlikely imo. Especially since Rovella will be new as well.
 

Lion

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what is deciding factor of experience vs inexperince? can u call miretti and fagioli inexperinced kids after a full season playing for juve in league and CL?

rovella also plays in serie a team.

i understand if it's youth team directly going to juve, or even serie b going to juve.
 

Bianconero81

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I'd rather Rovella, Fagioli and Mirerti over mercenary shitcunts like Parepiss and Fagiot or hacks like MNuggets and Arturd.

We can always deploy Zak in rotation, if Chelsea don't take up their option.

If things don't pan out early on next season with that selection of mids, we can go all in in the winter mercato for a quality mid.

We need a CB, two FBs, and possibly a winger.
 

Scottish

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I'd agree on 1 extra. Fagioli will be 23 for instance. At that age you should/can rely on them as a starter.

Miretti got injured after a tackle... That has nothing to do with his age. Miretti, Rovella, Fagioli, Pogba, Locatelli + 1 is a good group at this point. Adding 2 while we have so many other positions to fill is quite unlikely imo. Especially since Rovella will be new as well.
I would hope Enzo could be the +1. He's got the profile of the player Allegri wants for his system, but I suspect we'll see how he goes the rest of the season before making a decision on his short term future
 

Tak!

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Jun 23, 2011
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Ideally those 3 jabronis shouldn't be here next season and while them kids have potential we can't rely on them to deliver consistently for entire season as we see with Miretti right now. So IMO, we need 1 or 2 more experienced mid and one of them should be starter quality.

I would say RB + Mid > starter CB/ backup CB > LB > GK > winger > ST
Priority for me is ADM replacement. I understand your reasoning but have a different approach, which is more based on resource constrictions and needs.

Nevertheless. If we sign a starting CB we could move Danilo to RB and let Kostic play as an attacking LB (a la Zambrotta days). Danilo to support modestly but mostly cover and protect. With Cambiaso back we don't even need a new LB, he can rotate with Kostic. That's assuming we return to a 433. We would need a new RB to rotate with Danilo though since MDS needs to be given away for free or sent to NG, and Cuadrado will leave. We would also need a new CB unless we believe our NG CBs are good enough to rotate as CBs (but I assume they need a year in top flight first since I've never seen Hujissen and the rest). I'd rather ship away Sandro, Bonucci, Rugani and Gatti, and sign another CB that accepts a backup role and keep one of the NG CBs for a gradual introduction. In the past we had Demiral and Benatia as rotational players. Now we have Sandro as a starter...

Since we have no cash, that's where I would start. Although a priority is wingers. Even after removing all the deadwood in midfield we will need to make due with what we got in CM and splash for a replacement for ADM. If Kostic is set as LB we also need rotational wingers to cover for Chiesa and new winger.

Biggest problem is that we have so much deadwood, so many holes to fill, and no one wants our deadwood. Zakaria might be sellable and to some extent the 'murican but the rest... kind of stuck with Paratici's lunacy.
 

juve123

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Juve are trying to spread Alex sandro 6 million euros salary by offering him a contract renewal over a couple of years instead of the automatic renewal of the contract which would keep his salary at six million euros next year. (Sky Sports)
 
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maxi

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I'd agree on 1 extra. Fagioli will be 23 for instance. At that age you should/can rely on them as a starter.

Miretti got injured after a tackle... That has nothing to do with his age. Miretti, Rovella, Fagioli, Pogba, Locatelli + 1 is a good group at this point. Adding 2 while we have so many other positions to fill is quite unlikely imo. Especially since Rovella will be new as well.
He meant his form.
Juve are trying to spread his 6 million euros salary by offering him a contract renewal over a couple of years instead of the automatic renewal of the contract which would keep his salary at six million euros next year. (Sky Sports)
Who?
 

Amer

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Feb 13, 2005
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Juve are trying to spread Alex sandro 6 million euros salary by offering him a contract renewal over a couple of years instead of the automatic renewal of the contract which would keep his salary at six million euros next year. (Sky Sports)
This will so going to end by us giving him 8 million salary a year.
 

Scottish

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Mar 13, 2011
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Priority for me is ADM replacement. I understand your reasoning but have a different approach, which is more based on resource constrictions and needs.

Since we have no cash, that's where I would start. Although a priority is wingers. Even after removing all the deadwood in midfield we will need to make due with what we got in CM and splash for a replacement for ADM. If Kostic is set as LB we also need rotational wingers to cover for Chiesa and new winger.

Biggest problem is that we have so much deadwood, so many holes to fill, and no one wants our deadwood. Zakaria might be sellable and to some extent the 'murican but the rest... kind of stuck with Paratici's lunacy.
The thing is that there isn't one. We either convince him to stay another year or we compensate for his loss by adjusting the structure of the team and create in other ways.

After another year I'd hope that some of the younger players will be playing more reliably well and the team will be in good enough shape to handle the loss of Di Maria. If he left today it'd be a disaster.
 

Clamarc

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what is deciding factor of experience vs inexperince? can u call miretti and fagioli inexperinced kids after a full season playing for juve in league and CL?

rovella also plays in serie a team.

i understand if it's youth team directly going to juve, or even serie b going to juve.
Miretti this season is still too green. That match against PSG clearly show it. He also faded after good start.
Fagioli is much more mentally ready though. Can't judge Rovella since I don't follow Monza. He maybe ready or maybe not. But since he can rotate with Loca the DM/regista position should be set for these two.
Problem is LCM and RCM. LCM should be set for Pogba but his injury record is a problem.
We lose starter quality if Pogba forever injured like this season.
RCM belongs to Fagioli but who's gonna be his bench option? That's why mid is kinda thin for next season

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Priority for me is ADM replacement. I understand your reasoning but have a different approach, which is more based on resource constrictions and needs.

Nevertheless. If we sign a starting CB we could move Danilo to RB and let Kostic play as an attacking LB (a la Zambrotta days). Danilo to support modestly but mostly cover and protect. With Cambiaso back we don't even need a new LB, he can rotate with Kostic. That's assuming we return to a 433. We would need a new RB to rotate with Danilo though since MDS needs to be given away for free or sent to NG, and Cuadrado will leave. We would also need a new CB unless we believe our NG CBs are good enough to rotate as CBs (but I assume they need a year in top flight first since I've never seen Hujissen and the rest). I'd rather ship away Sandro, Bonucci, Rugani and Gatti, and sign another CB that accepts a backup role and keep one of the NG CBs for a gradual introduction. In the past we had Demiral and Benatia as rotational players. Now we have Sandro as a starter...

Since we have no cash, that's where I would start. Although a priority is wingers. Even after removing all the deadwood in midfield we will need to make due with what we got in CM and splash for a replacement for ADM. If Kostic is set as LB we also need rotational wingers to cover for Chiesa and new winger.

Biggest problem is that we have so much deadwood, so many holes to fill, and no one wants our deadwood. Zakaria might be sellable and to some extent the 'murican but the rest... kind of stuck with Paratici's lunacy.
If Di Maria leave that's definitely a big problem. Looking at his attitude now though there's good chance he would extend for another year.

Having a good mid is always a key for any team just like what we had in the past with MVPP supporting the likes of Matri, Pepe and Vucinic. We didn't have WC attacking force back then but MVPP really elevated our team. We already have potentially WC attack now, and just need to find good mid which can support it.
But assuming ADM leaving we will lose WC player but with good mid, someone like Marcus Thuram should be enough to fill Di Maria position.
 
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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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The thing is that there isn't one. We either convince him to stay another year or we compensate for his loss by adjusting the structure of the team and create in other ways.

After another year I'd hope that some of the younger players will be playing more reliably well and the team will be in good enough shape to handle the loss of Di Maria. If he left today it'd be a disaster.
Watch us lose Di Maria but I wouldnt be surprised to see his replacement in Firmino after all he is a free agent in the summer...
 

Siamak

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Not only Manuel #Locatelli, who was redeemed right after the January game against #Cremonese, but even Moise #Kean (23) should be considered a full-fledged #Juventus player. According to what Tuttojuve learned from sources close to the bianconeri, the striker from Vercelli has already been redeemed last summer from #Everton by paying the agreed fee for the final purchase (28M€).

[Mirko Di Natale - TuttoJuve]
 

Clamarc

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Not only Manuel #Locatelli, who was redeemed right after the January game against #Cremonese, but even Moise #Kean (23) should be considered a full-fledged #Juventus player. According to what Tuttojuve learned from sources close to the bianconeri, the striker from Vercelli has already been redeemed last summer from #Everton by paying the agreed fee for the final purchase (28M€).

[Mirko Di Natale - TuttoJuve]
:sergio::sergio:
 

Orgut

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It was an obligation from the beginning no? The mistake was getting him in the first place, now it's too late
For some reason I have a feeling when we sold him we had an agreement with Everton to pick him back after a few years. The whole selling and buying him for the reported fee seems too illogical for it to be something else.
I mean I remember when there was a rumor Man Utd wanted to pay 60M to get him (I think it was a season before we actually sold him).
 
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