Summer mercato 2021-22 (51 Viewers)

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DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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Locatelli + Aouar > Pogba, but beggars can’t be choosers, give me any of them.

I wonder what Zaniolo’s status is. Wouldn’t be surprised if Juve started getting connected to him again by the time summer comes around. Tici is allegedly a big fan. The injuries probably won’t deter him. A Locatelli/Zaniolo mercato would be money.
 
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pavluska

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How's Calmavinga doing this season, and still likely Real bound?

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Locatelli + Aouar > Pogba, but beggars can’t be choosers, give me any of them.

I wonder what Zaniolo’s status is. Wouldn’t be surprised if Juve started getting connected to him again by the time summer comes around. Tici is allegedly a big fan. The injuries probably won’t deter him. A Locatelli/Zaniolo mercato would be money.
Based on this, will pass on zaniolo. Really wanted him, it's too bad.

 
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LiquidPLP

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Locatelli and Aouar are obvious choices and tick all the boxes but the question is whether Tici will be able to offload some high earners to make room for those two.

In a perfect case scenario you get rid of Ramsey and Rabiot and replace them with the other two. You decrease the wage bill significantly (which will be a goal for the club, I'm sure of it) and you get the better/more reliable players, at least I'm of that opinion.

Zaniolo could be interesting, especially if the club doesn't find the agreement with Dybala. The caveat obviously is the injury record + Roma's willingness to sell, they know he's worth too little after something like this.

Pogba is a joke rumor but it won't go away as long as he's unsettled at MU I guess.
 

pavluska

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That depends on the league's, our own situation and the player himself. Eg. Nedved.
Few yrs ago it was guaranteed Dybala will leave us for being too big for us, now it's Matthews deLight

Too many people fall prey to anti-juve media, both juventini and anti-juventini

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Locatelli and Aouar are obvious choices and tick all the boxes but the question is whether Tici will be able to offload some high earners to make room for those two.

In a perfect case scenario you get rid of Ramsey and Rabiot and replace them with the other two. You decrease the wage bill significantly (which will be a goal for the club, I'm sure of it) and you get the better/more reliable players, at least I'm of that opinion.

Zaniolo could be interesting, especially if the club doesn't find the agreement with Dybala. The caveat obviously is the injury record + Roma's willingness to sell, they know he's worth too little after something like this.

Pogba is a joke rumor but it won't go away as long as he's unsettled at MU I guess.
If Wes plays SM-AM full time and Rabiot leaves too, you can argue the second mid signing after Locatelli should be a regista
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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Nedved is the exception to the rule.

We all know the hands tied policy of this club when players want to leave. Ffs, we even gifted Boca our best player for a sack of potatoes.
Alex Sandro wanted to leave too and we didn't let him. Don't buy into all that crap...
 

campionesidd

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Nedved is the exception to the rule.

We all know the hands tied policy of this club when players want to leave. Ffs, we even gifted Boca our best player for a sack of potatoes.
If De Ligt wants to leave, he will leave. If he loves Juve, he will stay. Raiola doesn’t really factor into it. Agents work for their clients, not the other way around.
If Pogba wanted to stay at Juve, he would have stayed, no matter how much Raiola tried to tempt him.
 

Orgut

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Locatelli + Aouar > Pogba, but beggars can’t be choosers, give me any of them.

I wonder what Zaniolo’s status is. Wouldn’t be surprised if Juve started getting connected to him again by the time summer comes around. Tici is allegedly a big fan. The injuries probably won’t deter him. A Locatelli/Zaniolo mercato would be money.
Zaniolo would be amazing if he can play without getting injured but 2 ACLs.. I dont know its very risky..
 

IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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If De Ligt wants to leave, he will leave. If he loves Juve, he will stay. Raiola doesn’t really factor into it. Agents work for their clients, not the other way around.
If Pogba wanted to stay at Juve, he would have stayed, no matter how much Raiola tried to tempt him.
While I mostly agree with all that you said, I don't think agents have zero influence over transfers. They help players negotiate better deals, and money is a huge factor for most players today.

Of couse if he wants to stay he will, although I doubt he will want to if we fall in a downward spiral alla Milan sisters, which is looking more likely (mediocre/old players on big wages).
 

Strickland

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Of course an agent like Raiola is a factor, especially early on, without him Pogba doesn't move out of United probably and Donnarumma for sure doesn't milk Milan the way he did and still leave at the end lol. However, as de Ligt (and any player really) gets older, Raiola effect diminishes
 
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DanielSz

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Know how I know Raiola is good at his job? There are people that actually believe he controls players. It’s literally the other way around, he works for them. He just doesn’t mind acting as a shield, which takes the heat off the player. Takes the hits while the real snake roams relatively free. It’s great. When he says things like ”Pogba needs a change of scenery“ he’s not just talking out of his ass and making assumptions about his guys. He’s a lot smarter than people give him credit for.
 
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Know how I know Raiola is good at his job? There are people that actually believe he controls players. It’s literally the other way around, he works for them. He just doesn’t mind acting as a shield, which takes the heat off the player. Takes the hits while the real snake roams relatively free. It’s great. When he says things like ”Pogba needs a change of scenery“ he’s not just talking out of his ass and making assumptions about his guys. He’s a lot smarter than people give him credit for.
He’s a saint
 

Strickland

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Know how I know Raiola is good at his job? There are people that actually believe he controls players. It’s literally the other way around, he works for them. He just doesn’t mind acting as a shield, which takes the heat off the player. Takes the hits while the real snake roams relatively free. It’s great. When he says things like ”Pogba needs a change of scenery“ he’s not just talking out of his ass and making assumptions about his guys. He’s a lot smarter than people give him credit for.
Before Raiola onboards an ultra talented 16-18yo kid, surely he's the one coming in the room with a 5 year plan on how to play for a big team and earn big bucks. Of course later on he doesn't command what grown up players do, however there are clubs that work with him and clubs that won't + his usual market where he has a lot of leverage is Serie A and Eeredivisie (and PSG with Leonardo in charge). de Ligt could get offers from Barca, PSG, ManUnited, but it'd be problematic if he wanted a move to City or Bayern with Raiola in charge.
 
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