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Fred

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I am not denying that, Isco is a big talent. But one shouldnt say he's more important then Modric, who's injury ruined Real's entire season basically.

Oscar is as talented, again, talent isnt just fancy dribbels. Lets compare 2010 sneijder with Isco, who was more talented ? Talented is how good you are in your position.


And Rugani left a massive impact on me. I should have said potential, not "talented" as it refers to his current form
Modric is extremely important to Real, obviously at this point he is more vital to their game than Isco. Its an unfair comparison though as Modric is an established player at this point.

As for Oscar, Isco is probably better than him in almost all aspects of the game, i really don't know why Oscar is so overrated on this forum. Even Willian has been better than him for Chelsea.

As for Rugani thats a bold claim to make for someone who is yet to play at the very highest level.
 

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Zacheryah

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I was laughing at the notion that Rugani is more talented than Isco, are you fuking kidding me. ? maybe when Rugani starts playing at a high level of competition you could said that, Isco is proven in Malaga when he was the best player in a team that made the QF. Proven in Real Madrid and a regular for the Spain NT.

Same can apply to the comparaison between Isco and Oscar.

And like you said it is not only about dribbling, Isco does everything better than oscar, it's no comparaison really, better dribbler, better passer, smarter player, bigger goal threat.....
See, thats simply not true. Oscar works much harder and has been creatively restricted quite alot, where as isco can operate free against spanish opponents. Yet despite that, we see Oscar in a MUCH more defensive chelsea putting in more goals+assists per game.
When we look at the defensive contribution, Isco does very little other then pressing, whilst oscar makes easely double the interceptions and tackles per game.
 

Zacheryah

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Modric is extremely important to Real, obviously at this point he is more vital to their game than Isco. Its an unfair comparison though as Modric is an established player at this point.

As for Oscar, Isco is probably better than him in almost all aspects of the game, i really don't know why Oscar is so overrated on this forum. Even Willian has been better than him for Chelsea.

As for Rugani thats a bold claim to make for someone who is yet to play at the very highest level.
Yeah, i'm aware of that, you can pin it on my all day when he doesnt deliver
 

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Modric is extremely important to Real, obviously at this point he is more vital to their game than Isco. Its an unfair comparison though as Modric is an established player at this point.

As for Oscar, Isco is probably better than him in almost all aspects of the game, i really don't know why Oscar is so overrated on this forum. Even Willian has been better than him for Chelsea.

As for Rugani thats a bold claim to make for someone who is yet to play at the very highest level.
:agree: hes 'average' every time i watch him play
 

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See, thats simply not true. Oscar works much harder and has been creatively restricted quite alot, where as isco can operate free against spanish opponents. Yet despite that, we see Oscar in a MUCH more defensive chelsea putting in more goals+assists per game.
When we look at the defensive contribution, Isco does very little other then pressing, whilst oscar makes easely double the interceptions and tackles per game.
That not true either, many times this year played as a CM, because James was playing as an AM, that's why when the latter went down Isco had his best 2 months this year.

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Modric is extremely important to Real, obviously at this point he is more vital to their game than Isco. Its an unfair comparison though as Modric is an established player at this point.

As for Oscar, Isco is probably better than him in almost all aspects of the game, i really don't know why Oscar is so overrated on this forum. Even Willian has been better than him for Chelsea.

As for Rugani thats a bold claim to make for someone who is yet to play at the very highest level.
:tup:

:agree: hes 'average' every time i watch him play
:agree: Never understood the hype.
 

Zacheryah

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:agree: hes 'average' every time i watch him play
You say the same about marchisio mate ;)



Isco is a footbal fan's favorite player.

Oscar, like marchisio pretty much, is a player that most tactical minded people like quite alot.


Wich brings us to juventus.



At for example Milan, i'm sure Isco would be a better idea.
 

Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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Modric is extremely important to Real, obviously at this point he is more vital to their game than Isco. Its an unfair comparison though as Modric is an established player at this point.

As for Oscar, Isco is probably better than him in almost all aspects of the game, i really don't know why Oscar is so overrated on this forum. Even Willian has been better than him for Chelsea.

As for Rugani thats a bold claim to make for someone who is yet to play at the very highest level.
I think part of it is due to his 2 goals against us a few seasons ago.

I like Oscar though and would be happy if we got him at a decent price. I would prefer Isco though.
 

Fred

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You say the same about marchisio mate ;)



Isco is a footbal fan's favorite player.

Oscar, like marchisio pretty much, is a player that most tactical minded people like quite alot.


Wich brings us to juventus.



At for example Milan, i'm sure Isco would be a better idea.
Do you consider Mourinho "tactically minded"?

Well he benches Oscar in a lot of important games.
 

Gep

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Jun 12, 2005
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I understand when people think that Oscar is average. He's not the flashy type player. More direct impact than most Trequartista's. I personally think he'll be well suited here with his defensive work ethics and attacking directness.
 

adRHCP

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Can we stop discussing Isco? I don't even understand why he's even brought up to discussion. The guy is not coming here or leaving Madrid anytime soon. And he's quite overrated around him, I like him as well, and it's undeniable that he is talented, but whenever someone compares him to anyone else Tuz explodes and act as if he was the best CAM to ever grace the Earth.
 
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