Summer mercato 2015 (32 Viewers)

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lgorTudor

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The unexpected sale of Vidal is the only reasonable explanation one can provide for not being able to purchase a quality AM.
I really do not think we intended on selling him before Bayern came calling.

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Lets be frank, it did look like a good mercato until the Vidal sale.

Zaza is the only questionable purchase in my view.
-ok lets buy an AM. - "+37mil". -crap! Can't afford it anymore
 

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GordoDeCentral

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The unexpected sale of Vidal is the only reasonable explanation one can provide for not being able to purchase a quality AM.
I really do not think we intended on selling him before Bayern came calling.

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Lets be frank, it did look like a good mercato until the Vidal sale.

Zaza is the only questionable purchase in my view.
but the timing of it all is the GMs responsibility imo as soon as pirlo confirmed his exit it was first priority to get his creative replacement with or without vidal being sold. so if vidal wasnt sold, who would be our treq? please dont say pereyra
 

Cheesio

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The unexpected sale of Vidal is the only reasonable explanation one can provide for not being able to purchase a quality AM.
I really do not think we intended on selling him before Bayern came calling.
So why sell him if you don't have a proper replacement lined up. I don't believe this, i think we intended to sell Vidal long before, Bayern presented the offer, Vidal accepted their offer and we sold him just like that. No effort to keep, we didn't drag the negociations, we sold him right away. That's not what you do when you are not expecting a sale.
Now we are in a situation where we are much weaker than last year. Tevez loss only makes us weaker now you add Vidal and wether you like Pirlo or not his presence made a diffence several games.
The way i see it we either break the bank for an established player or we will find ourselve taking two, tree step backs and us reaching the final will be just a fluke.
Dyabla, Rugani are nice player but not ready for the big stage, Mandzu and Zaza are bench players.....
I tought we had a great Mercato because we will be keeping both Tevez and Vidal but right now it's very underwhelming.
 

Xperd

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but the timing of it all is the GMs responsibility imo as soon as pirlo confirmed his exit it was first priority to get his creative replacement with or without vidal being sold. so if vidal wasnt sold, who would be our treq? please dont say pereyra
We knew Tevez was leaving so first priority was getting a Tevez replacement-Dybala.

I do agree with the Mandzukic signing as well.That where majority of the money was spent on.

Our strategy to get a treq was looking at 'market opportunities' again perhaps but not many opportunities were available at the time before the Vidal sale.
The Zaza purchase was bit of a mystery though.We should've prioritized differently here I suppose.In this case, I stick with Sergio's theory which he has repeated many times.

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GordoDeCentral

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We knew Tevez was leaving so first priority was getting a Tevez replacement-Dybala.

I do agree with the Mandzukic signing as well.That where majority of the money was spent on.

Our strategy to get a treq was looking at 'market opportunities' again perhaps but not many opportunities were available at the time before the Vidal sale.
The Zaza purchase was bit of a mystery though.We should've prioritized differently here I suppose.In this case, I stick with Sergio's theory which he has repeated many times.
then we dont get mandzukic and rely on zaza, and if we dont believe in zaza we dont buy him, you still didnt answer my question btw ;)
 

lgorTudor

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Mandzu is a great transfer imo. Zaza I liked because I believed in some Berardi clause (which I no longer do). And we overpaid big time for Dybala. Not compared to Sterling but check Vietto. Dybala should hsve been 25mil
 

Xperd

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then we dont get mandzukic and rely on zaza, and if we dont believe in zaza we dont buy him, you still didnt answer my question btw ;)
That who would be our treq ?
I don't know.I assumed we'd play a Morata-Mandzukic-Dybala strident before the Vidal sale.
Plans obviously have been changed.I think we still were looking at a treq even before Vidal sale but it probably depended on a combination of player sales/opportunities available.

This is just my theory.Atleast I'm not presently as a fact like Zach :p

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Post Ironic

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Who would you start, Morata or Mandzu ??

:tup:
We're playing in 3 competitions. Just like many big teams we have the ability to rotate heavily between fantastic options. Neither Mandzukic nor Morata is a bench player. We'll rotate them heavily imo, and play them together at times, with Morata playing a wider role, with freedom to cut in, a la Ronaldo. We could easily play a front 3 of Morata-Mandzu-Dybala and do quite well with it, allowing Morata and Dybala freedom to move about on the pitch, with Mandzu as the reference point in the centre.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Mandzu is a great transfer imo. Zaza I liked because I believed in some Berardi clause (which I no longer do). And we overpaid big time for Dybala. Not compared to Sterling but check Vietto. Dybala should hsve been 25mil
Dybala is a top top talent.

The price we paid for him will turn out to be a steal when you witness the insane inflation that's inevitably going to happen next yr.
 

Cheesio

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We're playing in 3 competitions. Just like many big teams we have the ability to rotate heavily between fantastic options. Neither Mandzukic nor Morata is a bench player. We'll rotate them heavily imo, and play them together at times, with Morata playing a wider role, with freedom to cut in, a la Ronaldo. We could easily play a front 3 of Morata-Mandzu-Dybala and do quite well with it, allowing Morata and Dybala freedom to move about on the pitch, with Mandzu as the reference point in the centre.
That's where we disagree, Morata shouldn't playing on the wing. Like i said before i don't mind getting Mandzu if we didn't get Zaza and Vice versa, now we find ourselves in a situation where we can't/don't want to spend for an AM.
 

Post Ironic

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I have no problem with Morata playing both on the wing and in the centre. He's shown he's capable and skilled enough for both. He can easily play a Ronaldo style role.

I'm no fan of the Zaza purchase. I'm not entirely sure what the point of it was. I like his fire and drive and toughness, but we got something similar in Mandzukic. I wanted Berardi brought back, regardless of what his agent or he wanted. At the very least we should have bought him out and loaned him to Sassuolo so as to avoid paying even more money in our buyback clause. Strange bit of business. Zaza is a rather esoteric purchase in my books. Perhaps his drive and determination will lead him to succeed, but it seems unlikely he will be anything but a sub here.
 

Post Ironic

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He did play out wide a lot last season.

He's the kind of player that likes to run with ball-characteristic of an SS/winger
:agree:

He was always drifting out left. Watch many of the top teams play with these modern winger/ss/forward combo type players. Ronaldo-Benzema-Bale at Madrid, Bale and Ronaldo are constantly drifting into the centre, cutting in... Same thing with Barca and Messi-Suarez-Neymar... And even unstoppable Bayern was much the same with Ribery and Robben playing more free roles, than strictly as wide attacking wingers.

The best wide forwards in modern football are not the traditional sort of winger that Morata and Dybala could never be, but exactly what Morata and Dybala easily have the talent to do, and that is play quite a free role in attack with a starting point out wide.
 
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