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Sorry Dolores, I'll go back to the topic
Music industry main problem lies in court rejection to shut down Imesh & Kazaa. They are not on a single server, so it is not easy to put them down.
Suing users is a dsparate atempt to keep their prices high and continue to rip off PPL. There is no way in hell that they can cost explain the prices of CDs, except if they do include profit margin of 100% or more.
Bands make their money of live gigs, not of sales of CDs, so they are hardly to blame. Metallica's law suit aginst Napster(?) was a PR disaster. PPL like to believe that their music idols are in the business for the fans & music itself, not for the money. If bands agree with these law suits, some bands will be a big disapointment for many.
I hardly share anything, because ISP's in malta are blocking ports used by P2P programs and download takes ages, but i rip CD's that i borrow from friends and there is no way in hell that they can prove that that is illegal. I dont pay my friends for this and they dont make any profit out of it.
Secondly, i heard a talk about rip-protected CDs. IE, you wont be able to rip them into MP3. Thats breach of rights of the owner of the CD. You pay for the right to use that CD, to RIP it & store it on your PC too as well as lending it to your friends....
Funny part is that untill last year, sales of CDs were going up, although Napster and other clones allowed PPL to d/l thousands of songs. Since crack down started, the sales started going down. Their actions just gave publicity to P2P software and more PPL joined and started sharing, and finding new ways of sharing files....shooting oneself in the foot.....
Music industry main problem lies in court rejection to shut down Imesh & Kazaa. They are not on a single server, so it is not easy to put them down.
Suing users is a dsparate atempt to keep their prices high and continue to rip off PPL. There is no way in hell that they can cost explain the prices of CDs, except if they do include profit margin of 100% or more.
Bands make their money of live gigs, not of sales of CDs, so they are hardly to blame. Metallica's law suit aginst Napster(?) was a PR disaster. PPL like to believe that their music idols are in the business for the fans & music itself, not for the money. If bands agree with these law suits, some bands will be a big disapointment for many.
I hardly share anything, because ISP's in malta are blocking ports used by P2P programs and download takes ages, but i rip CD's that i borrow from friends and there is no way in hell that they can prove that that is illegal. I dont pay my friends for this and they dont make any profit out of it.
Secondly, i heard a talk about rip-protected CDs. IE, you wont be able to rip them into MP3. Thats breach of rights of the owner of the CD. You pay for the right to use that CD, to RIP it & store it on your PC too as well as lending it to your friends....
Funny part is that untill last year, sales of CDs were going up, although Napster and other clones allowed PPL to d/l thousands of songs. Since crack down started, the sales started going down. Their actions just gave publicity to P2P software and more PPL joined and started sharing, and finding new ways of sharing files....shooting oneself in the foot.....
That's exactly right aca but I wonder how exactly they plan to shut down a network like kazaa, which is distributed. I can't say I know the details of the implementations, just from what I've read about it. Their latests stunt is to participate in p2p and spy on people, now that's low..
In the case against the Norwegian kid who participated in cracking dvd protection, the court ruled that it's well in his right to see movies he's paid for and it's not his fault there is no software for viewing movies in unix (well there is now, there wasn't before).
In the case against the Norwegian kid who participated in cracking dvd protection, the court ruled that it's well in his right to see movies he's paid for and it's not his fault there is no software for viewing movies in unix (well there is now, there wasn't before).
They can not shut down kazaa There is no server to shut down. There is no central office. It is a piece of software that does everything on it's own. at least thats my understanding.
The main point of defence of P2P, same as the kid you mentioned, is that software is made for legitimate use. IF PPL use it illegitimately, it is not problem of the software or it's creators. It is a user problem. Anyone with relative knowldege of computer programing can create a virus. Should we ban programming alltogether? (it is a bit far-fedged, but you see what I'm aimimg at).
Thats why ppl that do stand behing Kazaa & Imesh are pushing forcefully in advertising of new bands, indipendent movies and advertising of legitimate hollywood stuff. To prove that they do not have control of what their users exchange, because their interest is in stuff that can be exchanged legaly. Hence (because of several court rulings in this manner) Big music guys are turning to users.
BTW, i heard that SunSystems (or Cisco or something like that) offered that kid a job. Heard that even Big Bill is interested
There is no server to shut down. There is no central office. It is a piece of software that does everything on it's own. at least thats my understanding. The main point of defence of P2P, same as the kid you mentioned, is that software is made for legitimate use. IF PPL use it illegitimately, it is not problem of the software or it's creators. It is a user problem. Anyone with relative knowldege of computer programing can create a virus. Should we ban programming alltogether?
(it is a bit far-fedged, but you see what I'm aimimg at). Thats why ppl that do stand behing Kazaa & Imesh are pushing forcefully in advertising of new bands, indipendent movies and advertising of legitimate hollywood stuff. To prove that they do not have control of what their users exchange, because their interest is in stuff that can be exchanged legaly. Hence (because of several court rulings in this manner) Big music guys are turning to users.
BTW, i heard that SunSystems (or Cisco or something like that) offered that kid a job. Heard that even Big Bill is interested