Stoning or Firing Squad? (25 Viewers)

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,315
I'd never trade my country with any other even if it was a living hell. You can only give your all to make a change, if every citizen is gonna abandon his/her country whenever shit that he/she don't agree upon happens or when it does turn to shit then kiss goodbye any chance of a leap or improvement to well, any country.
Then you're an idiot The only reason you should want to stay to improve it is that you have friends and relatives there. If they all want to go too, by all means leave.

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Like Nick said, and these low lifes continue to be funded by the state? Fuck that, if you rape or kill someone, you don't deserve to live and you don't deserve to be a cost for tax payers/the state.
Very shortsighted though. There is quite a high incidence of people who are convicted but aren't guilty. It happens especially in certain regimes that try to pressure people in to confessing.

Furthermore who is to decide which crime warrants the death penalty? And is it really "the state" to execute a person? In reality there will always be someone who will have to perform the physical act that kills the other person. And I don't think that some fat bloodhungry Texan guard is the guy I want to condemn the amorality of the criminal in question.
 

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JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
Then you're an idiot The only reason you should want to stay to improve it is that you have friends and relatives there. If they all want to go too, by all means leave.
You just called me an idiot for having a different belief than you do 7, way to go there. As for the rest of your retarded post, my friends and relatives aren't the only reason that would keep me in my country if it was in fact a living hell. I can make new friends and Im pretty sure my close relatives share my thoughts on this and would never bail on our country.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,315
You just called me an idiot for having a different belief than you do 7, way to go there. As for the rest of your retarded post, my friends and relatives aren't the only reason that would keep me in my country if it was in fact a living hell. I can make new friends and Im pretty sure my close relatives share my thoughts on this and would never bail on our country.
I'm pretty sure you'd call me an idiot for some of my beliefs too.
 

JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
So you didn't just only make a false assumption you even took the initiative keeping that on mind, it keeps on getting better.
 

JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
You're entitled to your own beliefs as long as you don't offence me or my beliefs I see no reason for calling you an idiot the way you did call me without any reason what so ever but having a different view.
 

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Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
75,658
Speaking of stoning...

Human rights activist tries to stop death by stoning for Iranian woman
By the CNN Wire Staff
July 5, 2010 5:50 p.m. EDT

(CNN) -- A veteran Iranian human rights activist has warned that Sakineh Mohammadie Ashtiani, a mother of two, could be stoned to death at any moment under the terms of a death sentence handed down by Iranian authorities.
Only an international campaign designed to pressure the regime in Tehran can save her life, according to Mina Ahadi, head of the International Committee Against Stoning and the Death Penalty.
"Legally it's all over," Ahadi said Sunday. "It's a done deal. Sakineh can be stoned at any minute."
"That is why we have decided to start a very broad, international public movement. Only that can help."
Ashtiani, 42, will be buried up to her chest, according to an Amnesty International report citing the Iranian penal code. The stones that will be hurled at her will be large enough to cause pain but not so large as to kill her immediately.
Ashtiani, who is from the northern city of Tabriz, was convicted of adultery in 2006.
She was forced to confess after being subjected to 99 lashes, human rights lawyer Mohammad Mostafaei said Thursday in a telephone interview from Tehran.
She later retracted that confession and has denied wrongdoing. Her conviction was based not on evidence but on the determination of three out of five judges, Mostafaei said. She has asked forgiveness from the court but the judges refused to grant clemency.
Iran's supreme court upheld the conviction in 2007.
The majority of those sentenced to death by stoning are women
--Amnesty International
Mostafaei believes a language barrier prevented his client from fully comprehending court proceedings. Ashtiani is of Azerbaijani descent and speaks Turkish, not Farsi.
The circumstances of Ashtiani's case make it not an exception but the rule in Iran, according to Amnesty International, which tracks death penalty cases around the world.
"The majority of those sentenced to death by stoning are women, who suffer disproportionately from such punishment," the human rights group said in a 2008 report.
On Wednesday, Amnesty made a new call to the Iranian government to immediately halt all executions and commute all death sentences. The group has recorded 126 executions in Iran from the start of this year to June 6.
"The organization is also urging the authorities to review and repeal death penalty laws, to disclose full details of all death sentences and executions and to join the growing international trend towards abolition," the statement said.
Ahadi, who fled Iran in the early 1980s, told CNN that pressure from Amnesty and other organizations and individuals is likely the only way to save Ashtiani.
"Experience shows (that) ... when the pressure gets very high, the Islamic government starts to say something different," she said.
In Washington, the State Department has criticized the scheduled stoning, saying it raised serious concerns about human rights violations by the Iranian government.
"We have grave concerns that the punishment does not fit the alleged crime, " Assistant Secretary of State P.J. Crowley said Thursday. "For a modern society such as Iran, we think this raises significant human rights concerns."
Calling Iran's judicial system "disproportionate" in its treatment of women, Crowley said, "From the United States' standpoint, we don't think putting women to death for adultery is an appropriate punishment."
Human rights activists have been pushing the Islamic government to abolish stoning, arguing that women are not treated equally before the law in Iran and are especially vulnerable in the judicial system. A woman's testimony is worth half that of a man, they say.
Article 74 of the Iranian penal code requires at least four witnesses -- four men or three men and two women -- for an adulterer to receive a stoning sentence, said Ahadi, of the International Committee Against Stoning. But there were no witnesses in Ashtiani's case. Often, said Ahadi, husbands turn wives in to get out of a marriage.
Mostafaei said he could not understand how such a savage method of death could exist in the year 2010 or how an innocent woman could be taken from her son and daughter, who have written to the court pleading for their mother's life.
The public won't be allowed to witness the stoning, Mostafaei said, for fear of condemnation of such a brutal method. He is hoping there won't be an execution.
Mostafaei, who himself did jail time in the aftermath of the disputed presidential elections in June 2009, said he realizes the risk of speaking out for Ashtiani, for fighting for human rights. But he doesn't let that deter him.
He last saw Ashtiani five months ago behind bars in Tabriz. Since then, he said, he has been searching for a way to save her from the stones.
CNN's Moni Basu, Ben Brumfield, Bobby Afshar, Gena Somra, Mitra Mobasherat and Elise Labott contributed to this report.

Link:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/07/05/iran.stoning/index.html?video=true&hpt=T2
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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I hope Iran goes through with it. If they don't they're just fake pussies that's scared of bitches that like to fuck.
 

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