Stephan Lichtsteiner (16 Viewers)

[Nzoric]

1000v points we sell in summer.

Poll?

Isla + Caceres + Pepe = Cashing in.

You heard it here first.

(not saying I want to)

I think so too. And to be perfectly honest, if we're going to keep playing 3-5-2 Licht has no place in the squad. He's a phenomenal RB, but just doesn't cut it as RWB. Caceres is miles ahead of him when it comes ot that position, so he's basically playing 3rd fiddle.

 

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[Hust]

I don't want you to start treating him like you do with Matri.

Licht is actually good. I love the guy...completely different than Matri.

I think so too. And to be perfectly honest, if we're going to keep playing 3-5-2 Licht has no place in the squad. He's a phenomenal RB, but just doesn't cut it as RWB. Caceres is miles ahead of him when it comes ot that position, so he's basically playing 3rd fiddle.

Yep, agreed. I prefer the 433 so we can us Isla up top and Licht at RB.

I can see the club cashing in If an oil money club come knocking or from Spain.

Sell for 20m?

Discuss.

 

[Klin]

Caceres is miles ahead of him when it comes ot that position, so he's basically playing 3rd fiddle.

Please, don't insult Licht like that.

 

[Fr3sh]

How did I miss this?!?!

 

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Antonio Conte has the gene winner.
And that was the factor that most influenced my decision to play for the Old Lady.

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[K.O.]

 

[Nzoric]

Please, don't insult Licht like that.

No one is insulting him, Caceres is a better wingback.

 

[K.O.]

Nope.

 

[Nzoric]

Nope.

I'm glad that we got that figured out. And yes, he is.

 

[Cheesio]

Caceres better as wingback than Licht

Short memories

 

[K.O.]

Very short memories.

Just because Caceres scored some goals from corners doesn't make him a better wingback than Licht. Caceres is great too, don't get me wrong.

 

[Nzoric]

What does scoring goals from corners have to do with being a wing back? Caceres times his runs better, is better in small spaces and get in more favorable positions to cross when playing a RWB in a 3-5-2. He also stretches the opposition better because he stays out wide. Licht is the undisputed first choice in a 4-3-3 simply because the lower vantage point suits him better and it plays to all his strenghts rather to many of his weaknesses like the 3-5-2 does.

 

[Cheesio]

There's more to being a WB than streching the opposition, Heard about defence ?? Licht is a lock down defender, and frankly i wouldn't trust neither Isla nor Caceres if we are facing some serious wing play.

 

[Hydde]

They are both comparable to be honest. We cannot say that caceres is a better wingback because he cant defend like licht does,,and also is not like Licht turns into a molinaro once he pass the midfield line.

They are both OK, with their pros and their cons... but nothing to brag about.

If we are talking about effectiveness as a winger, i think isla could outdo both of em...if he is not already doing it. He may not be as defensive... but his offensive aspects brings a lot to the team.

 

[Nzoric]

There's more to being a WB than streching the opposition, Heard about defence ?? Licht is a lock down defender, and frankly i wouldn't trust neither Isla nor Caceres if we are facing some serious wing play.

No I never heard of defence, this is completely new to me.

Isla is a very capable defender, Caceres isn't bad at all. The deficiencies he has in his positional play he makes up with his incredible physical attributes. Look, I love Licht as much as you guys do but he's very mediocre in a wingback role.

 

[MikeM]

Isla = Offensive RWB
Caceres = Balanced RWB
Licht = Defensive RWB

That's how I see it.

 

[Hydde]

definitely.

 

[Klin]

Caceres is great at nothing. His defending is not better than Lichtsteiner. Offensively is not better than Isla. His positioning is shockingly bad for a supposed CB. The only thing he got over Lichtsteiner is his crossing is slightly better, and is possibly a better threat in the opponents' box. Should only be a reserve CB.

 

[LowLife]

Caceres is great at nothing. His defending is not better than Lichtsteiner. Offensively is not better than Isla. His positioning is shockingly bad for a supposed CB. The only thing he got over Lichtsteiner is his crossing is slightly better, and is possibly a better threat in the opponents' box. Should only be a reserve CB.

 

[Osman]

No one is insulting him, Caceres is a better wingback.

No he is not at all, in fact the reasons Licht suffers higher up the pitch is multiplied for Caceres who who is more lacking the higher up he plays. Not as good instinctive and natural wide man as Licht who is more apt at direct running down the flank, wether its on breaks or smart overlapping runs or general off the ball movement. Caceres main redeeming factor is decent crosses with his right foot, but overally too uncomfortable and limited in advanced offensive tasks. Being overally energetic and aggressively hyper as player seems to mislead some here in terms of his attacking proficiency. Running into box and heading in goals or scoring some good shots in a game, doesnt say much of overall performance as a wingback, which I generally remember as really awkward.