Stankovic? (17 Viewers)

Do you want Stankovic with Juve?

  • YES (with no other aquisitions at midfield)

  • NO

  • YES (but with X. Alonso)


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JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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What do mean he's not an improvement over what we already have? Do you seriously rate players such as Marchionni and Palladino in the midfield? We don't even have capable replacement for Camoranesi and Nedved on the wing, unless we consider Giovinco a winger, which he really isn't but he can play there. I mean, Stankovic, no matter how much people detest him, gives this side more experience (which every single person who has something against Arsenal is inanely bitching about, standing against buying young talents) and also provides us with more creativity. He can fill in at numerous roles, plus there's always the chance that he can perform a helluva lot better than what he did at Inter, just like Cannavaro, because we all know players at Inter can only perform to 3/4 of their potential.

So what's the problem?
:disagree:

Palladino and Marchionni are better than Stankovic by default. Do I have to remind you of the Italian blood factor each and every time we mention football talent?
 

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Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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:disagree:

Palladino and Marchionni are better than Stankovic by default. Do I have to remind you of the Italian blood factor each and every time we mention football talent?
You're right, my bad. I forgot about the blood factor. Italians have superior blood to Serbs.
 

Mark

The Informer
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Dec 19, 2003
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hehe I don't see the thing about this rumour.. It's a Inter fan on j1897 who says that Stankovic will move to Juve for 9.2 million euros. Wtf .. Who is he to know something about that especially in the middle of the night.. He must be drunk:rofl:
He seems well informed about the merdazzurri but like you said, I hope he's drunk but the words of Ranieri, Chiellini and Nedved lead me to believe he'll be a Bianconero soon.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,757
What I'm saying is, maybe he is better than Marchionni and co., but if we are looking to improve our team, we should do that with quality players. Right now, it looks like we are replacing deadweight with deadweight. Expensive deadweight.

I want to know from the people here- What do you expect of the team next season? What do you think we should aim for realistically?
 

Fellas

Farsopoli
Jun 13, 2005
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He seems well informed about the merdazzurri but like you said, I hope he's drunk but the words of Ranieri, Chiellini and Nedved lead me to believe he'll be a Bianconero soon.
Yes me to, It feels like it's the boards tactic to get ur ready for him..

Stankovic versality will not be good for Giovinco and Marchisio.. With him Ranieri will always have options.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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What I'm saying is, maybe he is better than Marchionni and co., but if we are looking to improve our team, we should do that with quality players. Right now, it looks like we are replacing deadweight with deadweight. Expensive deadweight.

I want to know from the people here- What do you expect of the team next season? What do you think we should aim for realistically?
Funny thing is, everyone wants experienced players while at the same time wants quality. Okay, fine. But put the two together and then we have a transfer fee sky high, which is what people don't like to see. We already have our sights set on Xabi who will do wonders for our midfield and attack, so we need to use our capital for him. We need a quality left-back, so we need to use some capital for that guy. It's not like we have enough money to buy everyone's favorite overrated player Aquilani, so that's out the window. What we do need however is someone such as Stankovic who is pretty good at a bunch of positions, because guaranteed he's better on the wings than the backups we have now. That's all the matters.

Cracka, weren't you one of the thousands of people here complaining we need experience over young talents? Well you have a guy here with loads of experience and a pretty decent record in Serie A, so what's the problem?

Like I've always said, people work their way into arguments and then work their way out once they personally don't like the player in discussion. That's all it is.
 

Zaim

Senior Member
Dec 1, 2007
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To be honest I would be glad to have a player of his quality in the squad if it doesn't mean losing out on Alonso. Imagine Nedved or Camo injured right before a big CL game. I'd rather have Stankovic filling in then Marchionni and Sali. And imagine Giovinco failing to make an impact, we'd be screwed if one of the first team midfielders gets injured or booked.

Alonso + Stankovic would be fantastic.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,984
Perhaps if we didn't sign Knezevic we would have about a million more dollars in capital to allocate towards more quality players than Stankovic, whomever they may be.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,757
Stankovic is experienced yes, but that is not the only characteristic we nedd in our signings. We have, Buffon, DP, Camo, Nedved, Trez wit experience. Our signings must have some quality. I'm not expecting Diego or VdV, but I don't want the Niko Kovacs either. The rumoured asking price is way too much for him anyway, especially for a player that inter supposedly are trying very hard to offload.

I doubt I would have said I have something against youth. i may have said something like, "A team of 21 year olds, will not win you much." We don't have the problem/ luxury of many young talents, so instead of investing (wasting) on an old, washed up player who likely would not be too happy on the bench, we can get some hot Italien, or Argie, whatever to be on our bench.

I know what you mean when you say that "people work their way into arguments and then work their way out once they personally don't like the player in discussion," but I can assure that it is not so in this case. I may have done that in other cases though, with Cronaldo, for example. I just don't like him.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I could have sworn you were one of the many who didn't want to take a chance on young starlets like Piatti, but maybe I'm mistaken. Too many people were saying all we need is experience right now and it pissed me the hell off. We already have enough experience in my view, except for at the back.

So... who would you suggest instead of Stank?
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,489
Either way, it doesnt matter, its obvious we have signed this mofo (convenient praisings of coach and players, just like the Amauri signing), hopefully he will prove to be some use and not be utterly useless as I seen him in Inter (I have at times been shocked why he is, despite watching their games as a neutral, I was frustrated as his pathetic performance almost like I was a fan...cant imagine how that will bode in our colours). He offers choice over Sali if anything, and is better then him and Marchionni.

But we better sign Xabi, will I still think we will, because otherwise this signing will get 3 times more hatred spewed on it if not. Xabi would cool everything down.

Btw, this gurantees we will sell Tiago. Yet another player of ours Stankovic cant possible be worse then, I hope...

Perhaps if we didn't sign Knezevic we would have about a million more dollars in capital to allocate towards more quality players than Stankovic, whomever they may be.
Knezevic is a loan, who will only cost 1.5m IF we want to keep him next summer.

This crappy signing of Stankovic can be more easily bareable, if this fucking rumour of him costing 9-10m is false. Seriously, wtf. His salaries will be high enough, ridicolous they can make profit on a player that has been as horrendous as he has.
 
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they'll loan him to Genoa in January probably. :rolleyes:

Watching Ranieri Giovinco would be behind Stankovic, Neddy, Camo, Salihamidzic, Iaquinta DP and Amauri.
It might hurt Giovinco a little but not much man.

I would think Giovinco will be competing with Nedved for a starting spot and Camo and Stankovic will compete.

So it could be:

---------Del Piero/Iaquinta----Trez/Amauri

Nedved/Giovinco--Zanetti/Stankovic---Sissoko--Stank-----Camo/Stank



Ranieri said Stankovic is useful because of the roles he plays so he could be used in a number of places so he will get alot of games but I doubt Ranieri would bench Giovinco or Nedved if he could play Stank in another role.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,924
You know Andy, i sometimes think people really don't use their own heads. You, i and few more have been talking and talking for weeks now but people still claim he's an awful player.

The guy had a very bad half season. It's 4 months actually. He suffered an injury (i believe the first one in his career that kept him out for more than a month) and he simply couldn't make a good comeback. He was bad.
But why does everyone say that he's an awful player is really beyond me ?

The guy was a star everywhere he played. He was an integral part of Lazio's all time best team. He was a starter in Inter's best team in the last 20 years. If you guys mention the awful 4 months he had last year why don't you also mention his terrific season before that ? His price was easily 20m eur only 18 months ago.
He's been playing with great succes in serie A for 10 years already, he was winning with both Inter and Lazio. He won 3 scudetti (no, i'm not counting the one they stole from us), 4 coppa italia, 4 super coppa italia, uefa cup, cup winners cup, european super cup and he was always one of the best (except last season).
And the guy is not 30 yet.

78 matches in European cups (64 in CL) and 17 goals there (8 in CL), versatile and runs for 3 players.
Wanted by Moggi because he offers so much.

Don't you guys understand that we don't need only bodies for squad depth ? We need quality replacements.
Yeah, Xabi is of course my choice. But if we do buy Xabi then buying Stankovic will be another terrific move.

Nedved-Xabi-Sissoko-Camoranesi

Giovinco-Zanetti- xxx- Stankovic.

We can rest our main players and when we'll replace them we'll still have amazing players on the pitch.
That's what's needed to do good in serie A. We won't have to play the striker Palladino, the DMC Nocerino, the full back Salihamidzic or the injured Marchionni as wingers.

Hate the guy if you want. I don't like him either. I don't like him at all, actually. But he's quality and that's exactly what we need.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,757
Cheap alternatives, players that could be on the bench and are of higher quality than Stankovic:
Jorgensen or Santana (Fiorentina), Rosina (not sure if he would be cheap), Ferreira Pinto or Tissone (Atalanta), Zarate (who Lazio already bought), Foggia (Lazio), Abate (Milan)

*Some of those names may look like average playes, but they are jsut some players who impressed this season have had a batter season than Stank. Who knows if they were just good when I saw them, or are one season wonders? Just throwing out some names.

Slightly more expensive, but much more quality:
Capel (I think he had a 12m E release clause), D'Alessandro or Aimar (could be cheap because Zaragoza got relegated)
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,489
Abate would be a good catch for sure, pretty damn good backup for Camo. Would accept bench and is promising enough to bank on.

Milan are foolish enough to loan him out yet again despite having virtually only dms on their bench, and Abate impressing as Giovinco's partner in crime in Empoli (for example, the assist he made to Giovinco against Roma was great show of his qualities).



And yeah, its clear Stankovic is a Juve player now, lets now get used to it, slowly for some of us.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,924
Cheap alternatives, players that could be on the bench and are of higher quality than Stankovic:
Jorgensen or Santana (Fiorentina), Rosina (not sure if he would be cheap), Ferreira Pinto or Tissone (Atalanta), Zarate (who Lazio already bought), Foggia (Lazio), Abate (Milan)

*Some of those names may look like average playes, but they are jsut some players who impressed this season have had a batter season than Stank. Who knows if they were just good when I saw them, or are one season wonders? Just throwing out some names.

Slightly more expensive, but much more quality:
Capel (I think he had a 12m E release clause), D'Alessandro or Aimar (could be cheap because Zaragoza got relegated)
No, sorry, you're clearly wrong.
You just said that Ferreira Pinto (who is the most annoying player by the way) is better than Stankovic.

I really really think that some of you watched Stankovic only in the second part of last season and never before that.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Knezevic is a loan, who will only cost 1.5m IF we want to keep him next summer.

This crappy signing of Stankovic can be more easily bareable, if this fucking rumour of him costing 9-10m is false. Seriously, wtf. His salaries will be high enough, ridicolous they can make profit on a player that has been as horrendous as he has.
I'm tired of these fucking retarded loan deals. Stupid Stendardo, whom most of us knew was utter fecal matter, was signed like a damn squatting duck on pond flooded with crude oil. He blows. Most of us haven't even paid attention to Knezevic, nobody else wanted him, I've seen him enough to know that he will add ZERO QUALITY to this team, yet we screw around like a bunch of dolts wasting time signing him on loan then having to deal with shipping him off again once we finally figure out he isn't that good (if he even plays). These sort of stupid deals just piss me off.

People complain about quality and experience all the time, yet they're happy with Knezevic (who has NEITHER) yet blast Stankovic who gives us a little bit of both. What a friggin' joke.
 
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