Guys -- while I love discussing languages, the facts are that this is an English language Juve site, and the language issue is clearly stated in Marty's site rules:
http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13533
I think it's cool to explain certain words, phrases, or translations... but full-on discussions in languages other than English are unmoderatable (if that's a word) and will result in the thread getting closed.
Just FYI...