So Who Should Play for the Azzurri? (1 Viewer)

[Tifoso]

All of his great grandparents? Because if that is the case, then I see no problem with him starting

 

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[Enron]

And?

They said he was a "star".

 

[Enron]

All of his great grandparents? Because if that is the case, then I see no problem with him starting

It doesn't say, perhaps you are willing to find out?

 

[Éver]

You might aswell give up posting links since nobody here can possibly confirm their validity.

 

[Tifoso]

It doesn't say, perhaps you are willing to find out?

I've been looking. If I find it, I will post it

 

[Bjerknes]

They said he was a "star".

Yeah, but this was from like 5 years ago.

 

[Enron]

You might aswell give up posting links since nobody here can possibly confirm their validity.

Use the quote button bro, Im pretty sure your talking to Andy and not me.

 

[Éver]

Use the quote button bro, Im pretty sure your talking to Andy and not me.

Sorry, yeah

You didnt post links though i think, but nevermind.

 

[Bjerknes]

You might aswell give up posting links since nobody here can possibly confirm their validity.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=371118&&cc=5901

Yeah, because we're all such great hackers on my side of the argument. Surely we hacked ESPN's site just to change a couple words around...

Grow up.

 

[Enron]

Sorry, yeah

You didnt post links though i think, but nevermind.

That's what I was getting at.

 

[Éver]

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=371118&&cc=5901

Yeah, because we're all such great hackers on my side of the argument. Surely we hacked ESPN's site just to change a couple words around...

Grow up.

What you on about?

Im not saying some links are more relaible or your messing with them ffs, just nobody can be so sure. Dont need to take it personally do you.

Me grow up

 

[Bjerknes]

Got sources saying grandparents were Italian. Quite a few.

But you think his parents are Italian, too.

Still waiting for those sources...

 

[Vinman]

Still... Mauro Camoranesi was an Argentinian, not an Italian. I don't care whether or not his uncle Freddy was an Italian... who gives a shit.

Italians love to have this sort of comradery amongst themselves, saying they're Italian even if they've never set foot on Italy, don't speak the language, and only had a grandparent who was Italian. I mean, the whole purpose of nationalities is that you actually are part of the nationality, not using it as some sort of, I don't know, ridiculous way to fit in.

Like I said, four divided by two is not four. Sorry, it's not. Camoranesi is at most "half Italian," whatever that means, and not an Italian. That's just the way it is.




Amauri doesn't really matter; don't care about him. He's just used to demonstrate the hypocrisy in this whole mess.



thank you !!



But you see, I actually uphold a standard and don't hide behind silly blood arguments. I'm open to anybody who is a citizen of this country, unlike some Azzurri fans who support Camoranesi on Italy despite him not being an Italian. That's the difference here.

Either call for Camoranesi to be taken off of the Azzurri or accept Amauri as a viable candidate for Italy.

first of all, if you were referring to me with that blast, both sides of my family are from Italy, I can speak some, and understand most Italian, we still keep in contact with relatives there, and I will get over there one of these days....

And there is a comradery, whether you can understand it or not....many of us grew up with the same traditions that arent found in many other American families, and it seems like everyone somehow knows each other, or is related

Also...you have to accept the fact that Camo is an Italian citizen, just like Gooch and Adu are American citizens, and they chose the countries that they wanted to play for

 

[Salvatore]

Start off with the faithful ESPN because as you said, can't hack into that.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=260204&root=europe&cc=5739

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmafp/is_200606/ai_n16466369

http://bianconeri.tripod.com/didyouknow.html - on this one there is a lot of shit around it, but you look for where it says it.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1788201,00.html - UNLIKELY HERO? section

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Camoranesi#International

 

[Vinman]

The Juventus man qualifies for Giovanni Trapattoni’s squad due to Italian great grandparents

well...thats at least 2 more people than Amauri can claim......

 

[Tifoso]

Proof that this is certainly nothing new. Orsi may have been the greatest player on the WC winners of the 1930's

http://forza_azzurri.homestead.com/play_Oriundi~ns4.html

ie, this is nothing new.


www.theoffside.com

like Mauro Camoranesi who, though born and raised in Argentina, plays for Italy, the country from which his grandparents emigrated to South America.


www.wldcup.com

Camoranesi, 26, was born in Argentina but has Italian grandparents and is therefore eligible to play for either country.

Not clear if it's all of his grandparents (some sites say great grandparents), but all the sites I checked seem to indicate that

 

[Tifoso]

And there is a comradery, whether you can understand it or not....many of us grew up with the same traditions that arent found in many other American families, and it seems like everyone somehow knows each other, or is related

Exactly. In a way, we have kept the traditions better than some over there: we make wine, our own salumi, etc

 

[Enron]

Start off with the faithful ESPN because as you said, can't hack into that.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=260204&root=europe&cc=5739

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmafp/is_200606/ai_n16466369

http://bianconeri.tripod.com/didyouknow.html - on this one there is a lot of shit around it, but you look for where it says it.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1788201,00.html - UNLIKELY HERO? section

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Camoranesi#International

You had to go and cite Wikipedia.

 

[Enron]

Exactly. In a way, we have kept the traditions better than some over there: we make wine, our own salumi, etc

We of Irish decent have the same thing. But it doesn't mean I'm trying to hawk Stevie Finnan's position on the NT.

 

[Joaco]

first of all, if you were referring to me with that blast, both sides of my family are from Italy, I can speak some, and understand most Italian, we still keep in contact with relatives there, and I will get over there one of these days....

And there is a comradery, whether you can understand it or not....many of us grew up with the same traditions that arent found in many other American families, and it seems like everyone somehow knows each other, or is related

Also...you have to accept the fact that Camo is an Italian citizen, just like Gooch and Adu are American citizens, and they chose the countries that they wanted to play for

Exactly. Actually he refused Bielsa offer when he called him to the Argie NT. The same did Trezeguet when Pekerman called him to sub-20.
If his papper are all right I don't think there is any trouble. And, come on, how many player "feel" the shirt? Just a few, and maybe just the old ones. Kaka' refused to go to Copa America with Brazil and he is brazilian.

And let's not forget Totti, Nesta...