No mater what he does, it would not be good enough for you.
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Should Ranieri Stay or Go? (Part 2) (26 Viewers)
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Now now...that`s not true.I will change that when he proves me wrong.And that will be when:
1)When he makes good formation and use it whole match and not change it back to 4-4-2 to protect result
2)When he doesn`t use players like Nocerino and Molinaro always
3)When he stops talking too much
4)When he realise that we need a playmaker and not 2 DMs
5)When he realise that he should not play Grygera and use Stendardo sometimes
6)When he learns to make proper subs
7)When he stops asking for crapy players(mostly DMs)
...
But that will be never.Do you know why?Because he`s not good enough.
1)When he makes good formation and use it whole match and not change it back to 4-4-2 to protect result
2)When he doesn`t use players like Nocerino and Molinaro always
3)When he stops talking too much
4)When he realise that we need a playmaker and not 2 DMs
5)When he realise that he should not play Grygera and use Stendardo sometimes
6)When he learns to make proper subs
7)When he stops asking for crapy players(mostly DMs)
...
But that will be never.Do you know why?Because he`s not good enough.
Exactly !! that's what I really want to say
For who think Ranieri is a good coach, let's imagine we had a lousy coach this season, what will he do?
- For a team which lost all its back line, he will fail to rebuild it, depending on an injury prone, 2 defenders famous for huge mistakes (boum and legro) and a 21 yrs old unproven kid
- he will loan out some promising (and surely needed) youngsters, including a talented Play maker (Gio) who is really needed as a backup for either nedved or camo
- he'll play with the default formation which anybody will use and let the stars do the rest of the job
- In the winter transfer he'll let go 2 of his CBs (the weakest position we have) and ask for a DM
- he prefers playing an Grygera who is an average RB as a CB and keep Stendardo who is a natural CB on the bench
-His substitutions are horrible
- He refuses signing any of 2 talented Playmakers (VDV and Diego) saying they arent needed
- He draws with a mid-table team and says he's pleased with the team performance
- He will say these statements:
"We dont need Cannavaro we have Crisito"
"Palla is the natural replacement for Nedved"
"The only untouchable player we have is Trez, while Buffon isn't"
And much much more nonsense
For who think Ranieri is a good coach, let's imagine we had a lousy coach this season, what will he do?
- For a team which lost all its back line, he will fail to rebuild it, depending on an injury prone, 2 defenders famous for huge mistakes (boum and legro) and a 21 yrs old unproven kid
- he will loan out some promising (and surely needed) youngsters, including a talented Play maker (Gio) who is really needed as a backup for either nedved or camo
- he'll play with the default formation which anybody will use and let the stars do the rest of the job
- In the winter transfer he'll let go 2 of his CBs (the weakest position we have) and ask for a DM
- he prefers playing an Grygera who is an average RB as a CB and keep Stendardo who is a natural CB on the bench
-His substitutions are horrible
- He refuses signing any of 2 talented Playmakers (VDV and Diego) saying they arent needed
- He draws with a mid-table team and says he's pleased with the team performance
- He will say these statements:
"We dont need Cannavaro we have Crisito"
"Palla is the natural replacement for Nedved"
"The only untouchable player we have is Trez, while Buffon isn't"
And much much more nonsense
1) Alright, you're speaking maybe of the whole season but let's take the example of the fiorentina game, for it's the most logic of all. We were ahead against a team stronger than us, which outplayed us and with people like papa waigo upfront. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? bring another striker? Of course he wanted to protect the result. Hell, if we would not have conceided any more goals (which was what he inteded of course) everything would have been fine. He brought in Nocerino in order to destroy they're passing game in midfield. Now he failed, but people, look at the age of nocerino... Either way, i won't go on and comment on every statement here, but in every team, with every coach it's always the same. If a coach, at a leading score, chooses a defensive tactic and looses afterwards, everyone yells "why did he sub _____" but it's like the most logical thing to do in order to win... Of course we were better with camo in, and of course after noce came, we didn't do ANYTHING upfront, but hell, we wanted to keep the score
2) Nocerino, ok, we have sissoko, zanetti to replace. But who do you want to play instead of molinaro? I'm sure CR plays him because he's the best man available and not because he has the most pretty face (which he clearly hasn't!)
3) Talking too much??? Hell did you actually see how CR is talking to press? He did one of the best jobs when talking. Better than good old lippi imo. of course he is questionned a lot, but believe, he'd prefer to say nothing. he's just answering the stupid questions of the shitty reporters. I'd just like to quote him after one of those referee-screwed-games. He was asked by a reporter (of sky i think) what he thought of the referees and everything going on. He just answered "parliamo di calcio o non parliamo per niente". (let's talk about football or not talk at all)
Comparing to the mourinho's and so which you all so desperately want, CR is quiet like a mouse.
I could go on and go into every detail of your argumentation but it wouldn't make sense. I'd just recommend everyone not to just believe every BS around. THe things like "no diego because we don't need him" don't necessarily come out of his mouth. Imo maybe it's just some shitty reporter who made that up... After all, the transfer period (the real one, not the winter transfer window) is coming... we'll see who we gettin there. I'm pretty sure we will be surprised.
2) Nocerino, ok, we have sissoko, zanetti to replace. But who do you want to play instead of molinaro? I'm sure CR plays him because he's the best man available and not because he has the most pretty face (which he clearly hasn't!)
3) Talking too much??? Hell did you actually see how CR is talking to press? He did one of the best jobs when talking. Better than good old lippi imo. of course he is questionned a lot, but believe, he'd prefer to say nothing. he's just answering the stupid questions of the shitty reporters. I'd just like to quote him after one of those referee-screwed-games. He was asked by a reporter (of sky i think) what he thought of the referees and everything going on. He just answered "parliamo di calcio o non parliamo per niente". (let's talk about football or not talk at all)
Comparing to the mourinho's and so which you all so desperately want, CR is quiet like a mouse.
I could go on and go into every detail of your argumentation but it wouldn't make sense. I'd just recommend everyone not to just believe every BS around. THe things like "no diego because we don't need him" don't necessarily come out of his mouth. Imo maybe it's just some shitty reporter who made that up... After all, the transfer period (the real one, not the winter transfer window) is coming... we'll see who we gettin there. I'm pretty sure we will be surprised.
First of all I don`t think Viola is better than us.They didn`t outplay us with Papa Waigo since he was a sub and he didn`t do much except scoring that goal.
Ranieri was always protecting result and every time he tried to do that we played terrible,very terrible.Why?Yet again because of subs.
He is doing some stupid things like bringing Nocerino in to destroy their middle but Ranieri didn`t realise that he`s in a bad form and last 7 matches he didn`t do anything good I think.Also,putting Palla always as some wing is not good.
First half time against Roma when I saw formation I said like "omg is this Ranieri? " Because I think it was the first time he did something good.But second half was terrible.When we needed some creativity in middle to outplay Roma`s middle and continue with attacks upfront he didn`t do that.He protected result with 4-4-2 again and we played terrible.
He tried to the same with Viola but this time used that stupid thing against us and got 3 points.I wonder if Ranieri learned that but I highly doubt.
Who I want to play instead of Molinaro?
He is one very bad defender who can not play in our first 11.Sometimes when we have problems in defence ok but not always.
Why did we sign Stendardo?Listen,I think Chiellini is one of the best CBs this year in Serie A and he should play there next year but it`s time to use him as left back.Don`t you think we would play better this way:
Chiellini-Stendardo-Legro-Zebina
By talking too much I mean how he said that we`re after studett
ne week later he said "scudetto?no way"...maybe not just like that but that was the point of it.
He also made like tons of stupid statements.
I highly doubt he didn`t say we don`t need Diego/van der Vaar because it was on every sport site and not just tuttosport.He prefers to play with 2 DMs and I think that`s very bad.Imagine if he did say that...if Camo gets injured next season(hope not) we would not have any creativity in middle which would destroy us.
And yeah,I also think we will be surprised this transfer market when we end up with Lampard(don`t ask why not Lamps because we could get much better players with smaller wages) and Gilardino(who can`t do anything for the past two years).
Ranieri was always protecting result and every time he tried to do that we played terrible,very terrible.Why?Yet again because of subs.
He is doing some stupid things like bringing Nocerino in to destroy their middle but Ranieri didn`t realise that he`s in a bad form and last 7 matches he didn`t do anything good I think.Also,putting Palla always as some wing is not good.
First half time against Roma when I saw formation I said like "omg is this Ranieri? " Because I think it was the first time he did something good.But second half was terrible.When we needed some creativity in middle to outplay Roma`s middle and continue with attacks upfront he didn`t do that.He protected result with 4-4-2 again and we played terrible.
He tried to the same with Viola but this time used that stupid thing against us and got 3 points.I wonder if Ranieri learned that but I highly doubt.
Who I want to play instead of Molinaro?
He is one very bad defender who can not play in our first 11.Sometimes when we have problems in defence ok but not always.
Why did we sign Stendardo?Listen,I think Chiellini is one of the best CBs this year in Serie A and he should play there next year but it`s time to use him as left back.Don`t you think we would play better this way:
Chiellini-Stendardo-Legro-Zebina
By talking too much I mean how he said that we`re after studett
ne week later he said "scudetto?no way"...maybe not just like that but that was the point of it.He also made like tons of stupid statements.
I highly doubt he didn`t say we don`t need Diego/van der Vaar because it was on every sport site and not just tuttosport.He prefers to play with 2 DMs and I think that`s very bad.Imagine if he did say that...if Camo gets injured next season(hope not) we would not have any creativity in middle which would destroy us.
And yeah,I also think we will be surprised this transfer market when we end up with Lampard(don`t ask why not Lamps because we could get much better players with smaller wages) and Gilardino(who can`t do anything for the past two years).
I accept your opinion, although i don't agree... your lineup with Chiellini-Stendardo-Legro-Zebina does not make sense to me. We could try it, but i don't see how playing chiellini out of position (he prefers CB!) while having a "legro-stendardo"-couple at the centre can be better than leaving molinaro and his mistakes where they are. It's of course easy for us all to speak but i just want to recall that stendardo came ON LOAN from LAZIO. So he surely is not the world-class player everyone wants him to be. Nobody is denying that he only came because of the chiellini injury. He was just a backup in case some would have got booked or sth. Nothing else. That's why he has this clause in his contract too, that after so many games played lazio get's awarded more money. That's exactly because of the fact that he was brought in just in order to fill A POSSIBLE gap. Now i won't deny that maybe he would do better than molinaro. I see your points, all of them, I don't agree with most of them but that's what discussion boards are for. We'll see how it works out anyway since molinaro won't play the genoa game (probably). I'm not sad about that, i really would like to see stendardo (or someone else) convince me that my opinion is wrong. Let's hope for the best for tomorrow!
vimo,
Playing Chiellini as LB is not "out of his postions" since he played a lot as left back.Yes,he did say he prefers to play as CB but I think it wouldn`harm him to play some matches as LB again.I agree Stendardo is not anything special but this way
Chiellini-Stendardo-Legro-Zebina
would work much better than I think
Molinaro-Chiellini-Legro-Zebina or Sali-Chiellini-Legro-Zebina
Anyway,like you said
Let`s hope for the best for tomorrow
Playing Chiellini as LB is not "out of his postions" since he played a lot as left back.Yes,he did say he prefers to play as CB but I think it wouldn`harm him to play some matches as LB again.I agree Stendardo is not anything special but this way
Chiellini-Stendardo-Legro-Zebina
would work much better than I think
Molinaro-Chiellini-Legro-Zebina or Sali-Chiellini-Legro-Zebina
Anyway,like you said
Let`s hope for the best for tomorrow
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we are in a CL position and as long as we are I really don't see a reason to diss Ranieri as he is doing the job he is meant to do.
Do I accept everything from him no of course not, I have my toughts on how Juve should play and with who they should play but as long as we are in the top 4 I don't see a reason to question everything about him.
Point of the matter is that we have a team that is far from perfect, not his fault, and we are in a position above all expectations.
Do I accept everything from him no of course not, I have my toughts on how Juve should play and with who they should play but as long as we are in the top 4 I don't see a reason to question everything about him.
Point of the matter is that we have a team that is far from perfect, not his fault, and we are in a position above all expectations.
my words...I just want to mention that Legro too wasn't faultless. Maybe his mistakes aren't as obvious as Molinaro's because Molinaro screwed up crosses and lost easy balls whereas legro's only task is to clear the ball. But i consider Legro fault-prone too. So having something like stendardo-legro in the middle.... i don't know. Does not seem too secure to me.
Ranieri has caused us more pain than happiness. In a situation where we have to pray and hope to win every match because our coach might commit one blunder or the other. Its sad, but the guy himself knows that its time for him to leave, am sure at the end of the season, he'll show himself the exit. I just pray Lippi is available then. I pray and hope we win today.
He said
Ranieri : "La società, a inizio stagione, non mi ha chiesto la Champions League, ma semmai l'entrata in Coppa Uefa. Ma è chiaro che ora che sono qua, sento l'obbligo morale di raggiungere questo obiettivo"
We can translate by
Ranieri: "the society, beginning season, has not asked me the Champions League, but if not the entrance in Uefa cup. But it is clearly that hour that is here, I feel the obligation moral to catch up this objective "
Mama mia, i have nothing to say after this. This is not a coach for Juventus. HE can't stay here longer than taht.
Ranieri : "La società, a inizio stagione, non mi ha chiesto la Champions League, ma semmai l'entrata in Coppa Uefa. Ma è chiaro che ora che sono qua, sento l'obbligo morale di raggiungere questo obiettivo"
We can translate by
Ranieri: "the society, beginning season, has not asked me the Champions League, but if not the entrance in Uefa cup. But it is clearly that hour that is here, I feel the obligation moral to catch up this objective "
Mama mia, i have nothing to say after this. This is not a coach for Juventus. HE can't stay here longer than taht.
