Should Ranieri Stay or Go? (Part 2) (9 Viewers)

[Ahmedou]

-Substitutions; well here i cannot say anything. From an outsider it was clear that he made some suspicious subs (bringing noce, etc etc) BUT we all do not know what he was trying. Maybe camo was injured, maybe he was not on form, god knows.

And maybe Ranieri dont believe in the logical solution to take one score: keep the ball under control. Some players knows how to do it well and they where dong it well before he sub them.

-He's reliant on the elite & bad transfer policy; Of course he is. I'm pretty sad at that too, but who else do you want to rely on? it's his first season, and please don't forget that it's their first season together (secco&ranieri). so, they may have done bad choices with almiron/tiago (i still consider the latter a possible starter), BUT we were all expecting something different; go read the forum posts about almiron and tiago; most of the people here rated them as "decent", "positive signings". They turned out wrong, but it's not that we screwed up a whole season because of that.

The most likely cause of the echecs of Tiago and Almiron (especially Tiago) is that Ranieri used them very bad.

So, again, i don't want to defend ranieri, but please people; stop acting like you are coaches. Ranieri actually learned his job. He may or may not be a good 'juve-worthy' coach, BUT if he finishes in a CL spot, and we can compete with the top clubs in serie a, then i'm fine. It's improtant for juve to have a long-term plan, and you can't have such a plan if you switch coaches every season

It's easy to constat something. After 8 months we still don't have a "play". We dont have a collective consistency. Every player is doing by himslf what he want. The majority of our goles -and chances- doesnt came from a collective actions. What is Ranieri doing ??

Another fact. We don't play the europe competition and every times we have to play 3 matchs in 8 days it goes very bad for us. He must prepare the team for this situations and he did it very very bad..

 

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[giovanotti]

Exactly what i'm thinking. I chose the option to keep him to the end of the season, even though i'd not just sack him right away after it. ATM we can't have any better. There will be no mourinho, no lippi, no prandelli, no whatsoever to come to juve NOW. honestly, who would do that? So, YES, at moment CR is the best thing we can have. Fortunately! Because now he can/must show what he's got! We'll just see how it evolves, maybe me can make a run, beat even inter in 4weeks and everyone will be loving him again. We don't have a choice, at this time, so as far as i'm concerned, i'll just be a juve-fan for the rest of the season, and not a ranieri-hater! I'll hope for the best, maybe he can do the impossible!

Indeed,you prove my point mate.

 

[soulslider]

Tuttosport
Juve, three moves to hit back
Pact between players to finish second
Blanc announces: ‘Ranieri will stay whatever happens’

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[Eddy]

Idiot.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

He will stay because he is cheapest

 

[Salvo]

Tuttosport
Juve, three moves to hit back
Pact between players to finish second
Blanc announces: ‘Ranieri will stay whatever happens’

channel4.com

 

[Dostoevsky]

He will stay because he is cheapest

Most likely.

 

[David01]

he stays because his job is to get us into CL and he is delivering with our third place, till now

 

[RAMI-N]

He will stay because he is cheapest

And the dumbest

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

And the dumbest

That's why he is cheapest.

Not even Molinaro nor Paramatti has been harshly criticized by me but I am a bit pessimistic about Ranieri.

 

[Gazzo]

Tuttosport
Juve, three moves to hit back
Pact between players to finish second
Blanc announces: ‘Ranieri will stay whatever happens’

channel4.com

that's the kind of attitude that will see us toying away in the UEFA cup zone for years to come

 

[mondo1]

pact between players to finish second.....
thats even funnier than ranieri will stay....

 

[RAMI-N]

That's why he is cheapest.

Not even Molinaro nor Paramatti has been harshly criticized by me but I am a bit pessimistic about Ranieri.

You have the right to be so.

 

[Amaurisimo]

I voted for 3rd option, and still believe that no one with this team would give us more. It will be suicide if we would replace Ranieri now.

1st we shall loose 4th spot for sure, and 2nd no one who is decent would take this job, not only cos of quality of our players at the moment and cos its March , but also cos referee decisions against us. If not for referee’s mistakes we should be 9 points ahead. How about that?

Also we have just average team, if only one of our first 11 is injured or suspended and that is true.
I do criticize CR for negative, defending tactics such as against Roma, when we had Nocerino who did not play well last 4-5 games - even it did worked as we saved 3 points, and against Fiorentina when we had very similar scenario. However we lost points to them cos of individual mistakes in defence not cos of change of tactics or bad subs. People here talking like they really do know what is happening on the training ground, in dressing room etc.

But I don’t blame him for not picking up Tiago or Almiron before, as they haven’t been requested by him, even Didier did not want them, and “someone” still signed them..

This is true as Didier said it by himself in one of his interviews around January time when he talked about Newcastle job.
So don't blame CR for those flops, actually, those bad names are from Goal.com and all this negative talk mainly coming from BS media guys.
If there is no debatable discussion and turning things upside down on their forum, those media guys would not survive.
And one more thing, CR was playing Tiago and Almiron enough times to prove if they are capable or not, I think 11 and 9 times they played. Momo who WAS Ranieri request, played 6 times and 2 times he was best player.. So why none of other 2 guys could not do the same???

When we play bad we blame Ruineri, Molignaro, Paladingo, Shitsoko— well now most of u like Momo and im glad as he was good so far, I just hope some of u admit ur mistakes in judging the player even before seeing him how he fits in formation.

If we don't have Zebina, Legro, Chiellini ,Molinaro as our back 4 we shall have problems for sure. Molinaro is best LB we can play at the moment, as if play Chiellini we would have even bigger whole in defence than.
If we don't have Camo fit we are nothing in midfield. If we don’t have Nedved in, situation is even worse. And I ask you now, tell me how many times we had those 2 players playing together? Of course Pala cant fit the bill as yet but can u really trust Tiago after all those games and stupid comments?

DP is running again out of steam, yes he can do free kicks but not much more than that at the moment. Trez has been quiet, as I used to see him running up and down across the pitch. IQ is still there somewhere …
How good our team is really?

What about referees? We got robbed minimum 9 points, is that CR’s fault too?
What Buffon said in his last interview? Its only players fault , not Ranieri’s, as they got too up and high after Roma’s victory. But our kind friends and Goal.com forgot to mention that Gigi trust more to CR than to his defenders, and Gigi should not be afraid of anyone so he could say it straight!?…

And that is how things gets steered up.

As I said earlier, most of conceded goals were not cos of CR’s tactics but cos of individual mistakes. We had bad spells with other coaches too, did we?
Yes, for f@$£ sake change him, but you will do much worse than well for us, and is that what you really want?

 

[memo]

I voted for 3rd option, and still believe that no one with this team would give us more. It will be suicide if we would replace Ranieri now.

1st we shall loose 4th spot for sure, and 2nd no one who is decent would take this job, not only cos of quality of our players at the moment and cos its March , but also cos referee decisions against us. If not for referee’s mistakes we should be 9 points ahead. How about that?

Also we have just average team, if only one of our first 11 is injured or suspended and that is true.
I do criticize CR for negative, defending tactics such as against Roma, when we had Nocerino who did not play well last 4-5 games - even it did worked as we saved 3 points, and against Fiorentina when we had very similar scenario. However we lost points to them cos of individual mistakes in defence not cos of change of tactics or bad subs. People here talking like they really do know what is happening on the training ground, in dressing room etc.

But I don’t blame him for not picking up Tiago or Almiron before, as they haven’t been requested by him, even Didier did not want them, and “someone” still signed them..

This is true as Didier said it by himself in one of his interviews around January time when he talked about Newcastle job.
So don't blame CR for those flops, actually, those bad names are from Goal.com and all this negative talk mainly coming from BS media guys.
If there is no debatable discussion and turning things upside down on their forum, those media guys would not survive.
And one more thing, CR was playing Tiago and Almiron enough times to prove if they are capable or not, I think 11 and 9 times they played. Momo who WAS Ranieri request, played 6 times and 2 times he was best player.. So why none of other 2 guys could not do the same???

When we play bad we blame Ruineri, Molignaro, Paladingo, Shitsoko— well now most of u like Momo and im glad as he was good so far, I just hope some of u admit ur mistakes in judging the player even before seeing him how he fits in formation.

If we don't have Zebina, Legro, Chiellini ,Molinaro as our back 4 we shall have problems for sure. Molinaro is best LB we can play at the moment, as if play Chiellini we would have even bigger whole in defence than.
If we don't have Camo fit we are nothing in midfield. If we don’t have Nedved in, situation is even worse. And I ask you now, tell me how many times we had those 2 players playing together? Of course Pala cant fit the bill as yet but can u really trust Tiago after all those games and stupid comments?

DP is running again out of steam, yes he can do free kicks but not much more than that at the moment. Trez has been quiet, as I used to see him running up and down across the pitch. IQ is still there somewhere …
How good our team is really?

What about referees? We got robbed minimum 9 points, is that CR’s fault too?
What Buffon said in his last interview? Its only players fault , not Ranieri’s, as they got too up and high after Roma’s victory. But our kind friends and Goal.com forgot to mention that Gigi trust more to CR than to his defenders, and Gigi should not be afraid of anyone so he could say it straight!?…

And that is how things gets steered up.

As I said earlier, most of conceded goals were not cos of CR’s tactics but cos of individual mistakes. We had bad spells with other coaches too, did we?
Yes, for f@$£ sake change him, but you will do much worse than well for us, and is that what you really want?

and football xperts says yhat ranieri is doing magic and miracles whit this team. . . .because is to short in options in midfield, defense.. etc

 

[Amaurisimo]

and football xperts says yhat ranieri is doing magic and miracles whit this team. . . .because is to short in options in midfield, defense.. etc

yes my friend, but most of people in here dont agree with experts as they prefer learning tools built in PSP

 

[vimo]

As I said earlier, most of conceded goals were not cos of CR’s tactics but cos of individual mistakes. We had bad spells with other coaches too, did we?
Yes, for f@$£ sake change him, but you will do much worse than well for us, and is that what you really want?

I agree wholeheartedly. At least someone who not just jumps on the bandwagon and hates ranieri, because 'everyone does' and because 'someone has to be blamed'.
A lot of so-called fans are pushing themselves into hatred against this coach so much, that i believe they are missing that they are 'fans' of this club.
As much as i like lippi or maybe even another coach. It's NOT that if someone comes, we will win CL. That's just NOT true! Be assured that CR is doing his very best for juve to win, and for that, you should give him some damn respect. We are 3rd position, and every team in the world has periods where it does not run as smoothly. BUT, have you seen the roma-match? but that of course had nothing to do with CR. He only get's the blame when we play bad.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I agree wholeheartedly. At least someone who not just jumps on the bandwagon and hates ranieri, because 'everyone does' and because 'someone has to be blamed'.
A lot of so-called fans are pushing themselves into hatred against this coach so much, that i believe they are missing that they are 'fans' of this club.
As much as i like lippi or maybe even another coach. It's NOT that if someone comes, we will win CL. That's just NOT true! Be assured that CR is doing his very best for juve to win, and for that, you should give him some damn respect. We are 3rd position, and every team in the world has periods where it does not run as smoothly. BUT, have you seen the roma-match? but that of course had nothing to do with CR. He only get's the blame when we play bad.

We always play bad.But sometimes we manage to get 3 points somehow.

 

[Amaurisimo]

I agree wholeheartedly. At least someone who not just jumps on the bandwagon and hates ranieri, because 'everyone does' and because 'someone has to be blamed'.
A lot of so-called fans are pushing themselves into hatred against this coach so much, that i believe they are missing that they are 'fans' of this club.
As much as i like lippi or maybe even another coach. It's NOT that if someone comes, we will win CL. That's just NOT true! Be assured that CR is doing his very best for juve to win, and for that, you should give him some damn respect. We are 3rd position, and every team in the world has periods where it does not run as smoothly. BUT, have you seen the roma-match? but that of course had nothing to do with CR. He only get's the blame when we play bad.

Vimo, he always get blamed, if not for game than for the comment in papers..
I remember his last season at Chelsea, every game journalist used to asked him , does he knows who is his replacement, he was saying often, im dead man walking...
This is best coach not only cos of rebuilding etc, even Zola was quoted few times saying the same, but also cos of scandal we were involved in, as CR is known as one of rare gentleman's in football. For many lads on this forum, they would prefer someone with big mouth.

 

[Dostoevsky]

He can be gentleman as much as he wants but I actually want him to do something in this club.