Shooting in USA-thread. (9 Viewers)

[Hust]

I'm fairly sure it's a crime to threaten the president let. Not even going to get started on the other things this former congressman tweeted.

http://theslot.jezebel.com/former-congressman-tweets-declaration-of-against-obama-1783332512

Or the MN Gov. saying this in reference to another shooting:

"Would this have happened if the driver were white, if the passengers were white?” he asked. “I don’t think it would have.”


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The guy knows nothing about what happened at the scene, only from a video shot after the confrontation took place and before knowing the facts or giving the officer his time in court for self-defense already loaded the minds of his peers that it was racially motivated.

Disgusting. Tired of the race bating left.

 

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[Ronn]

Texas

Gunfire damages local Islamic Community Center; police, FBI investigating
http://www.kbtx.com/content/news/Po...local-Islamic-Community-Center-385869721.html

 

[Hust]

Each time you pull over some black youth in his 20ties you are facing the risk of death.



I doubt anyone here has ever feared for their lives. You dont know what its like.

White people kill officers too, you just never know what will happen when you pull ANYONE over.

I've been in a car twice when my black friend was pulled over for speeding and he was ALWAYS polite to the officer and respectful. Never once did I feel like the cop(s) were profiling him because of his skin color.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Racial profiling is logical when YOUR LIFE is on the line and there is SEVEN TIMES more chance to get killed. You learn to asses risks and act accordingly.

Its logical. If people want to be mad, be fucking mad at those 6.6% that killed more people then 38% whities.

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Each time you pull over some black youth in his 20ties you are facing the risk of death.



I doubt anyone here has ever feared for their lives. You dont know what its like.

Do you see any of these videos where the police have the guy subdued before they kill him?

 

[Zacheryah]

White people kill officers too, you just never know what will happen when you pull ANYONE over.

I've been in a car twice when my black friend was pulled over for speeding and he was ALWAYS polite to the officer and respectful. Never once did I feel like the cop(s) were profiling him because of his skin color.

And thats how you do it.


i've managed my way out of a significant amount of money in fines, cause i'm always friendly and polite and cooperative.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Do you see any of these videos where the police have the guy subdued before they kill him?

"They're just doing their job".

 

[Ronn]

US Army veteran

[video=twitter;751423008128970752]https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/751423008128970752[/video]

 

[ZoSo]

It's funny how this stuff is more "popular" than the (IMO) bigger issue

http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/comey-has-long-history-of-clinton-related-cases/
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...-fbi-james-comey-turn-america-banana-republic
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2015/08/16/real-email-question-hillary-clinton-sell-us-intelligence/

It's just going to blow over and people will conveniently forget about it now thanks to this

 

[Bjerknes]

Some did, but the majority of times the crimes commited by the people who got shot in no way warranted that response.

It depends. Are you in law enforcement? It's hard to say what the threat looked like at the time, at least for some of the famous ones.

I worked in private security for two years prior to returning to university. I had to do inverventions occasionally in Molenbeek (you know, everyone knows where that is these days).
Its exceptionally simple. You have statistics and they never lie. You base yourself on these statistics and asses the level of risk. and act accordingly.

The racism argument, is completely retarded and disgusting.


At my current job as R&D engineer, alot of my time goes to project management, so i'm seeing a fair bit of risk assesment when it comes down to software/firmware/mechanical/design issues. The higher the risk of defects, or the more serious the consequence, the higher priority it gets.

This is literally done everywhere in the world. Its pure numbers and straightforward.

I agree with you. Same thing in finance.

 

[.zero]

US Army veteran

[video=twitter;751423008128970752]https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/751423008128970752[/video]

Mesquite's own apparently

 

[ALC]

So because someone is black they should get different treatment when pulled over because of their risk assessment? That's what Zach is saying, it sounds like to me.


Those cops involved in those shootings shoot be tried with first degree murder. There's no excuse for what they did, ending someone's life because you got scared is not a legitimate reason. If I'm walking down the street and a black person spooks me, I don't expect to get away with murdering them.

 

[Hust]

Has anyone seen any videos of what happened before the guy was shot?

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I haven't seen anything yet.

 

[Bjerknes]

So because someone is black they should get different treatment when pulled over because of their risk assessment? That's what Zach is saying, it sounds like to me.


Those cops involved in those shootings shoot be tried with first degree murder. There's no excuse for what they did, ending someone's life because you got scared is not a legitimate reason. If I'm walking down the street and a black person spooks me, I don't expect to get away with murdering them.

No, that's not right. Of course if someone is doing absolutely nothing they should not get shot. But if a cop tells you to put your hands up instead of reaching for something, you're putting your own life at risk.

 

[.zero]

Has anyone seen any videos of what happened before the guy was shot?

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I haven't seen anything yet.

Which shooting are you talking about? Baton Rouge or Minn?

 

[ALC]

Has anyone seen any videos of what happened before the guy was shot?

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I haven't seen anything yet.

I'm trying to think what would make someone who gets pulled over with his girlfriend and child can do that would lead to a rational police officer emptying four bullets into him. Reach for his wallet? That's what the cop says in the video.

There is no excuse for what he did. we don't know the full story but what we do know is that a cop shot a dude four times while the guy was in his car with a seatbelt on and no weapon showing.

 

[Hust]

Which shooting are you talking about? Baton Rouge or Minn?

Minn

I guys talking bout baton?

 

[ALC]

No, that's not right. Of course if someone is doing absolutely nothing they should not get shot. But if a cop tells you to put your hands up instead of reaching for something, you're putting your own life at risk.

I agree but unless the cop sees a weapon there's no reason to shoot. Let alone 4 times

 

[Hust]

I agree but unless the cop sees a weapon there's no reason to shoot. Let alone 4 times

Cops can't risk always waiting to see, ALC. That's exactly why if you are talking to an officer it's critical you don't get an attitude/argument.

Most weapons are concealed are they not? How many times have we heard in the news a cop saved his own life because he didn't wait to "see" a weapon? Probably not many because they don't get reported

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Every situation is different and a cop needs to use his judgment or experience. If it was a mistake they will be punished.

 

[Ocelot]

No, that's not right. Of course if someone is doing absolutely nothing they should not get shot. But if a cop tells you to put your hands up instead of reaching for something, you're putting your own life at risk.

That is exactly the problem here. In now way does something like this warrant being shot.

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If it was a mistake they will be punished.

In most cases, they won't.

 

[lgorTudor]

But if a cop tells you to put your hands up instead of reaching for something, you're putting your own life at risk.

Libertarian freedom-crazy users advocating police state smh