Shooting in USA-thread. (14 Viewers)

[Enron]

The weird part is why for me.

I mean, I understand the appeal of guns. I can see why it might be fun to fire a gun, for sports, hell, maybe even for hunting. But the data show time and time again that as a means for protection they fall short and are in fact harmful. So why would you insist on saying you need them?

You'd have to ask the gun toting right about that.

The last piece of gun legislation to fail in front of Congress failed because to two big reasons. 1) It wanted to require background checks for internet gun sales and 2) remove 2nd amendment rights from those on the terrorist watch list. Perfectly reasonable among those of us that are not insane.

It failed because the NRA is a terrorist organization that loves guns more than the country.

 

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[Zacheryah]

I was, shooooooooooooooooooooooooot, in the us aheh


I was, SHOT, in the USA !

 

[Fr3sh]

I was, shooooooooooooooooooooooooot, in the us aheh


I was, SHOT, in the USA !

It's what they do mane

 

[Osman]

It's what they do mane

It reminds me, a friend who tells me about his brother who lives in US, every time their mother in dangerous as fvck lawless Mogadishu calls him, she sweetly and insistently tells him to stay safe and not get shot


Her other son in Sweden doesnt get the same concern (more concerned for him to not catch ze cold lol).

 

[Fr3sh]

It reminds me, a friend who tells me about his brother who lives in US, every time their mother in dangerous as fvck lawless Mogadishu calls him, she sweetly and insistently tells him to stay safe and not get shot


Her other son in Sweden doesnt get the same concern (more concerned for him to not catch ze cold lol).

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It reminds me, a friend who tells me about his brother who lives in US, every time their mother in dangerous as fvck lawless Mogadishu calls him, she sweetly and insistently tells him to stay safe and not get shot


Her other son in Sweden doesnt get the same concern (more concerned for him to not catch ze cold lol).

That's hilarious!
Somebody in Mogadishu is worrying for someone living in the states safety.



Whatever way you look at it it's inexcusable!

 

[Seven]

It reminds me, a friend who tells me about his brother who lives in US, every time their mother in dangerous as fvck lawless Mogadishu calls him, she sweetly and insistently tells him to stay safe and not get shot

Lol. But to be perfectly honest every time I've been to the States there was a notorious mass shooting. James Holmes was not even that far away from where I was at the time, less than 100km if I remember correctly. And when I stayed in LA I think I heared gunshots at night too. At least, I heard something that sounded a lot like it and then minutes after an ambulance arrived. Of course I'm no specialist, so I could be wrong about that one.

 

[JuveJay]

Lol. But to be perfectly honest every time I've been to the States there was a notorious mass shooting. James Holmes was not even that far away from where I was at the time, less than 100km if I remember correctly. And when I stayed in LA I think I heared gunshots at night too. At least, I heard something that sounded a lot like it and then minutes after an ambulance arrived. Of course I'm no specialist, so I could be wrong about that one.

Could have been a firework fight:

Hmm, or maybe not.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Lmao. I'll be going to LA in the summer. I don't wanna get shot.

 

[Seven]

Lmao. I'll be going to LA in the summer. I don't wanna get shot.

You won't. At least it's still pretty unlikely.

 

[JuveJay]

Lmao. I'll be going to LA in the summer. I don't wanna get shot.

What you want is a blue paisley bandana. You can tie it around your wrist to wipe the sweat off, because it hasn't rained there since 1989.

 

[Fr3sh]

You won't. At least it's still pretty unlikely.

Would be hilarious if he ran into one of his old maid in the states and she whipped out a pistol

 

[Osman]

What you want is a blue paisley bandana. You can tie it around your wrist to wipe the sweat off, because it hasn't rained there since 1989.

Nortenos will "take care" of him well and good for that

 

[swag]

I mean, I understand the appeal of guns. I can see why it might be fun to fire a gun, for sports, hell, maybe even for hunting. But the data show time and time again that as a means for protection they fall short and are in fact harmful. So why would you insist on saying you need them?

Well, fear for one. There are a few ways where the US as a first world nation is wholly uncivilized. Irrational fears of the imagined, for one. Treatment of the mentally ill for another. And the combination of those two in a way: we as a collective nation have solidly proven that we cannot be trusted with our own guns.

It's also disingenuous to frame it as purely a mental health issue too, as some are trying to do as if to distract a charging bull with a red handkerchief. As a nation we have too many stories of infants and two-year olds who grab mom's gun out of her purse and murder somebody, but nobody claims the problem in those situation is the children. Blaming mental health exclusively is a bit like that.

The main roots of a resistance to change have to come down to the Hollywood movie mentality that many advocates are overconfident in their own abilities with a gun, and thus there's an irrational belief of always being able to beat the odds. That's one side of it.

The other side of it scarier -- the people who know the data and know that they're far more likely to use a gun on a family member or friend or themselves before using it effectively against any would-be attacker, as in their minds the idea of killing one bad guy is worth the weight of accidentally killing four family members as collateral damage. For some people, that's a worthwhile exchange rate. That's just bat-shit crazy to me, but for some the belief in supreme death capabilities in their own hands outweighs the friendly fire casualties lost.

It reminds me, a friend who tells me about his brother who lives in US, every time their mother in dangerous as fvck lawless Mogadishu calls him, she sweetly and insistently tells him to stay safe and not get shot

Black Hawk Down and all.

 

[zebrettino]

Both weapons purchased legally... Maybe stricter gun laws won't altogether stop criminals and people looking to kill dozens of people, but they'll certainly make it harder for them to get their hands on automatic weapons.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Could have been a firework fight:

Hmm, or maybe not.

I think that shit happened in Chicago.

 

[Enron]

I think that shit happened in Chicago.

Imagine if guns were outlawed but self defense via firework was encouraged.

 

[Ocelot]

The article includes the Jim Jeffries classic, nice.

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To be fair, correlation doesn't mean causation, but in this case the evidence is pretty overwhelming and as a whole completely damning.

I also loved the bit about the Israeli soldiers & suicide in there. Shows that the argument "people will find a way" is incredibly short-sighted.

It is in fact criminal. For an example, if you are on the terrorist watch list, you are allowed to own a weapon. How fucked up is that? We're basically asked for it.

Wait, what?

It reminds me, a friend who tells me about his brother who lives in US, every time their mother in dangerous as fvck lawless Mogadishu calls him, she sweetly and insistently tells him to stay safe and not get shot


Her other son in Sweden doesnt get the same concern (more concerned for him to not catch ze cold lol).

 

[Seven]

Both weapons purchased legally... Maybe stricter gun laws won't altogether stop criminals and people looking to kill dozens of people, but they'll certainly make it harder for them to get their hands on automatic weapons.

Jim Jefferies makes the same point I've made on this forum in regard to stricter gun laws. Yes, it will still be possible to buy a weapon on the black market. But a) this will be very expensive b) you don't just go to the black market if you're a socially awkward kid.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Would be hilarious if he ran into one of his old maid in the states and she whipped out a pistol

Very unlikely. Maids and other Bolivian poor people go to Spain to wipe Spaniard asses.

 

[Enron]

Wait, what?

Yeah, fuckers we don't let on airplanes cause we're afraid they might crash in them into buildings can buy guns. Wanna know why? Cause maybe an innocent guy gets on the list and can't buy a gun.

Dumbest shit ever. We're the guy at the party that takes the date rape drug and then wonders why he wakes up with his pants around his ankles.

Thoughts and prayers bro, thoughts and prayers.