Different standards then? Allegri won the title last season with five rounds to spare.
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[Serie A] Verona 2-1 JUVENTUS [February 8th, 2020] (5 Viewers)
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I think most of us agree that it was time to part ways with Allegri. The end of last season was one big mess. Lack of motivation, too many injuries, Max getting antagonized and quibbling with the press constantly, etc etc.
However, many of us also thought Sarri was a mistake, a one-trick pony, and having nowhere near the class usually associated with our managers. And right now, we look more like the shit end of the season than the the first 2/3 of last season when we miles ahead of where we are right now.
However, many of us also thought Sarri was a mistake, a one-trick pony, and having nowhere near the class usually associated with our managers. And right now, we look more like the shit end of the season than the the first 2/3 of last season when we miles ahead of where we are right now.
So we agree on the fact Allegri's time was up. I agree it was a mess, everybody seemed tired of each other. 5 years is a very long time in football, things wear out. Allegri is a legend for sure but he had to go.
When it comes to Sarri, things don't look too well now but I'll judge at the end of the season. Now it's not the right time, everything is still up for grabs, things might change quickly.
When it comes to Sarri, things don't look too well now but I'll judge at the end of the season. Now it's not the right time, everything is still up for grabs, things might change quickly.
Not sure how we got so badly embarrassed in CL by a team that beat Juve, Madrid, and dominated Spurs for 3/4 of their tie before burning out and was still an injury time prayer of a goal by Spurs away from playing in the CL final. Ajax was damn good last year. Pretty obvious to anyone who watched them.
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Agreed. 5 years is a long time in modern football, with the internet and modern journalism, every tiny thing constantly under the microscope. He needed a break and we needed fresh motivations and ideas.
Myself, I wouldn't mind him coming back in a couple years, after a break to recharge his batteries, and for the club to reshape the squad for the next few years. I think he'd be fantastic again after a break. Kind of like Lippi's second term. But we shall see. I'd love to see how Inzaghi would do here too in a couple years.
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Agreed. 5 years is a long time in modern football, with the internet and modern journalism, every tiny thing constantly under the microscope. He needed a break and we needed fresh motivations and ideas. Myself, I wouldn't mind him coming back in a couple years, after a break to recharge his batteries, and for the club to reshape the squad for the next few years. I think he'd be fantastic again after a break. Kind of like Lippi's second term. But we shall see. I'd love to see how Inzaghi would do here too in a couple years.
Why are we slow and predictable? Did Sarri tell them to run slowly? Does he ask Pjanic to pass sideways all match?
Ok, we have fewer points, goals and concede more than last season but what were the second and third placed teams doing this time last year? Were they pressuring us like this year or what? Is Serie A quality better this year or not?
Ok, we have fewer points, goals and concede more than last season but what were the second and third placed teams doing this time last year? Were they pressuring us like this year or what? Is Serie A quality better this year or not?
Last season:
Juve - 42:15 - 20W 3D 0L - 63pts
Napoli - 42:18 - 16W 4D 3L - 52pts
Inter - 32:16 - 13W 4D 6L - 43pts
This season:
Juve - 44-23 - 17W 3D 3L - 54pts
Inter - 48:20 - 16W 6D 1L - 54pts
Lazio - 53:20 - 16W 5D 2L - 53pts
This season is more competitive, Lazio and Inter better. Atalanta have score 61 goals and conceded 31. Inter have only lost one match to us this year but you can say they sacrificed their CL spot like Napoli did last year. We changed manager and got players that he probably doesn't care for, Conte got exactly what he wanted even if it was Young and Moses he can find a use for them. Right now I think 3-5-2 would be best for us based on form.
Juve - 42:15 - 20W 3D 0L - 63pts
Napoli - 42:18 - 16W 4D 3L - 52pts
Inter - 32:16 - 13W 4D 6L - 43pts
This season:
Juve - 44-23 - 17W 3D 3L - 54pts
Inter - 48:20 - 16W 6D 1L - 54pts
Lazio - 53:20 - 16W 5D 2L - 53pts
This season is more competitive, Lazio and Inter better. Atalanta have score 61 goals and conceded 31. Inter have only lost one match to us this year but you can say they sacrificed their CL spot like Napoli did last year. We changed manager and got players that he probably doesn't care for, Conte got exactly what he wanted even if it was Young and Moses he can find a use for them. Right now I think 3-5-2 would be best for us based on form.
Let's say that Pipa playing back to the defense isn't his best atribute. Most of the time, he lost the duels, let CB anticipate him. That's why Max use Mandzo for that.
DC don't know how to control the tempo, the way he knows how to create space in the final third ot doesn't work in the MF.
CR7 is the GOAT so he can do it all. The problem are the other two with our current MF, if noone of them knows hot to control the tempo is almost impossible to be able to control games and avoid high pressure teams
DC don't know how to control the tempo, the way he knows how to create space in the final third ot doesn't work in the MF.
CR7 is the GOAT so he can do it all. The problem are the other two with our current MF, if noone of them knows hot to control the tempo is almost impossible to be able to control games and avoid high pressure teams
So you think that motivating is only on training sessions eh?Bravo!What about half time period of the game,what about leading the game with constant advises,preparing the game with the players?
Also he have a zero authority towards rhe players.I remember last year when he was a Chelsea manager and Chelsea were playing in Cup final.An 18 years old keeper didn't listen to his command to go out?????I forgot his name.What else do you want.To give him 5 years and a billion eur.to win a title?He was and never be a class of a Juve coach.
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When it comes to authority Kepa is known to be a dickhead, he'll be sold in Summer by Chelsea.
Against Verona we lost because of 2 mistakes and the second one was too late to recover from. Yes we were unspectacular but it's not all about motivation. We don't play the system well because some of the players are uncomfortable. We were motivated all the way up to the Lazio game then what happened? Look closely at the players and formations when we played our best and worst.
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https://www.worldfootball.net/schedule/ita-serie-a-2018-2019-spieltag/23/
My bad, 49. The stats show that defence is our main problem, not so much goals scored.
When it comes to authority Kepa is known to be a dickhead, he'll be sold in Summer by Chelsea.
Against Verona we lost because of 2 mistakes and the second one was too late to recover from. Yes we were unspectacular but it's not all about motivation. We don't play the system well because some of the players are uncomfortable. We were motivated all the way up to the Lazio game then what happened? Look closely at the players and formations when we played our best and worst.
@Post Ironic
https://www.worldfootball.net/schedule/ita-serie-a-2018-2019-spieltag/23/
My bad, 49. The stats show that defence is our main problem, not so much goals scored.
It wasn't Kepa.There are many dickheads among the players in the world: Costa,Bendtner and many others BUT I NEVER SAW in my life a player to reject his coach call for going out.That's called lack of authority.Do you think that something like that can happen with Ferguson,Conte,Mourinho and many others?No absolutely. But it happens with Sarri.Bad,bad coach in every sense.I won't change my mind about him even if we won the title.Not a Juve level coach..And his after match presses are awful."Full stomachs" and other stupidities......I think that he is already lost in this time of the season.
And our board has to take the responsibilities too.We took Ramsey who shows nothing up to now and never will and Rabiot who is nothing more than a average player.Costa is constantly injured.Selling Cancelo wasn't a bad move but not taking Danilo as a part of a deal.And Bonucci never was and never be a perfect defender.He is good only when Chiello is with him,otherwise is making his stupid mistakes.
And our board has to take the responsibilities too.We took Ramsey who shows nothing up to now and never will and Rabiot who is nothing more than a average player.Costa is constantly injured.Selling Cancelo wasn't a bad move but not taking Danilo as a part of a deal.And Bonucci never was and never be a perfect defender.He is good only when Chiello is with him,otherwise is making his stupid mistakes.
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