I know, right.
I was discussing this with a Juventus mate this morning at work and with the best will in the world I'm really struggling with supporting the team right now.
I have a monumentally stressful life and going through some personal challenges, Jj should be an escape for me and bring some joy but the last 6 months, the witch hunt, the points penalty, the transfer window, the burnt out players continuing to play at 50 per cent the back end of last season, Nipples scudetto, the pathetic pre season, the lack of effort and desire by the players so far since.
I'm sick of the media narrative surrounding us and I informed The Athletic so when I unsubscribed last week.
I'm sick of the circus of football. I'm sick of the wages and the differential that brings with some players and fans. I'm sick of oil teams getting away with cheating. So my apathy goes beyond Jj too. The fact we had a few months of an 'up', Bonucci dropped, then the sudden downer makes me feel worse, I don't know.
And ultimately that has been felt on tuz beyond myself I feel, which I (despite being a very long term newbie) have frequented pretty much daily since the late noughties.
Many people seem to feel similar and it makes this place miserable, which contributes to making me miserable.
We were spoilt for so many years, we really were, and maybe these feelings would be different if we were a Nipples or a Lazio.
But I've got some serious thinking to do over the coming days regarding associating with Jj and giving up something that has been such a big part of my life, as well as this place which has always been full of so many great fans, debates and a lot of laughs.
You unsubscribed from The Athletic? Good man.

The New York Times has gone to sh*t. Forget its wokester newsroom. It's become a gigantic cash grab through its The Athletic clickbait and all of its affiliate ad spam with Wirecutter articles. Kill it with fire.
Let me tell you a secret when I joined these forums 20 years and a day ago. I did it to vent, commiserate, and assuage the pain. In 2003 we were coming off a heartbreaking CL failure and entering a fallow period of dubious results and lackluster play.
I didn't come here to gloat, to rub it in interista faces, or to celebrate trophies. Though that was certainly fun and I wouldn't want to have missed out on it later. I switched from lurking to posting because I felt like crap, I was disappointed, I needed to vent, and I needed this community to sludge through it with me. We had just let Zebina score a goal in the 87th minute to cancel a lead from Marco Di Vaio:
https://www.juventuz.com/threads/serie-a-juventus-roma.3788/post-235652
Here's the other thing. You cannot be a juventino without the media, the public, etc., always wanting to take a dump on you. That's part of the deal. You cannot escape it. It is integral to our identity and, well, Italian legacy of success.
And I am 100% with you that seeing the Champions League turned into the annual Arabian Petro Cup is dire, aggravating, and despairing. Good thing we don't have to worry about it this season. Which is kind of a relief in some strange way.
Because here's the other thing... you cannot separate the glory of victory from the agony of defeat. You cannot experience the true value of the former without a lot of heartache of the latter. That's just being a fan of sports in general, but it's part and parcel with Juventus. Yes, we have had years where we were really spoiled and treated Serie A as an annoying tournament interfering with our long wait for CL glory. But you don't appreciate that without the crap times.
And if you hit the eject button on the crap times, you're trying to earn one aspect without the necessary other. And then you become the fair-weather Juve fan that half of Italy already hates us for and you prove them right.
p.s.: Sorry about the personal hardships. Sometimes football suffering also teaches a little about life too.