Serie A: Roma vs Juventus [September 23 2007] (3 Viewers)

Azzurri7

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Roma Draw A Very Good Result - Del Piero

Juventus captain Alex Del Piero had a good time yesterday. After the entertaining 2-2 draw obtained against in-form Roma at the Stadio Olimpico in the capital, he gave his thoughts on the match and the team's performance.

"It was a vibrant match, between two teams who weren't afraid to play, and there were many chances for both teams," Del Piero said.

The outcome was a point apiece, which left the Juventus number 10 completely satisfied: "Getting a draw away from home against the most in-form team of the league is certainly a positive result."

Now the team must turn their attention to Reggina, who will visit Turin next Wednesday. But the captain was keen to dedicate a few words to a team mate who is going through a difficult moment.

"We are all shocked and disappointed about [defender Jorge] Andrade's injury, and we all hope he can come back to play for us soon," he concluded.

It may be a vain hope, considering that the Portuguese defender will probably miss the rest of the season due to this injury, and some rumours suggest his career may even be over.
 

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Geof

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May 14, 2004
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It may be a vain hope, considering that the Portuguese defender will probably miss the rest of the season due to this injury, and some rumours suggest his career may even be over.
What a stupid journalist sentence. :wallbang: He doesn't even know what he's talking about.
Andrade will undergo surgery for his broken left kneecap and will be back in 4-6 months.
 

Red

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offensively we were very good, and still we are scoring loads of goals. But the problem is so obvious, it is not the system, it is the quality of defenders. We should have signed a world class central defender, I don't understand why they didn't do that. That's thumb down to the board or whoever saw that unnecessary..
The problem is the defensive unit as a whole ie the midfield and the defence when we don't have possession.

Because the whole unit isn't working well, it is far too wasy for teams to expose our defenders one on one against forwards, which always makes mistakes more likely.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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The problem is the defensive unit as a whole ie the midfield and the defence when we don't have possession.

Because the whole unit isn't working well, it is far too wasy for teams to expose our defenders one on one against forwards, which always makes mistakes more likely.
I agree here. It isn't just a matter of signing a high-profile player and expecting the whole backline to act as if they've been together for years. The defense was decimated by calciopoli. We're still trying to recover, and now we've got plenty of injuries to contend with too.

I don't think the personnel we have are all that terrible -- just that they have been plagued by injuries and have been thrown together as a unit for almost the first time. We should otherwise expect to get more out of them under different circumstances.
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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I don't think the personnel we have are all that terrible
They are unreliable,:faq2: it is painfully obvious now:pumpkin:

They will never become a solid defense, the sooner we bring in a solid CB, the sooner we will get a permanent solution, defense needs time to build...
we should have acted more wisely.
 

Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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where are the Iaquinta haters now?

We need defenders badly. Ivanovic and a more exienced CB is a must. OR 2 experienced ones.
 

Thunderball

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May 4, 2007
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They weren't too bad at first, but now there is a very glaring hole.

With Grygera and Chiellini on the wings, with Zebina and Molinaro backing up, the wings are strong enough. With the wings strong, and having a world class CB like Andrade, the remaining spot could be used to experiment with Criscito and Legrottaglie, with the hopes that one would grow into a savvy and elite CB (most likely Criscito, but hey, maybe Legro is a very late bloomer). Now, with Andrade gone, there is no stable strength in the middle, and the odds them doing anything but tread water until a reinforcement or two are purchased is low.

Right now, I actually have more faith in Legrottaglie than Criscito. I think Legro is more capable of stepping up with the amount of experience he has, I think Ranieri can help him get his head around the pressure of playing for a big team in big games. Both are better than Boumsong, so I wouldn't be pining for his speedy convolesence to do anything but add a layer of depth protection.

A big name CB will do a lot to stabilize what we have and help them to achieve better, not to mention the boost Andrade will provide when he returns sometime between February and April.
 

Thunderball

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May 4, 2007
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Prepare to be shot down for saying Andrade is world class.
Well, he has 50 caps for a solid European national team as well as being their vice-captain... so it is a somewhat defensible title, despite his solid, but not spectacular club history.

There's plenty of better defensemen out there, but he is in a high class and was just beginning to show it in Juventus colors.
 

Red

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Well, he has 50 caps for a solid European national team as well as being their vice-captain... so it is a somewhat defensible title, despite his solid, but not spectacular club history.

There's plenty of better defensemen out there, but he is in a high class and was just beginning to show it in Juventus colors.
I think he is a very good CB, not world class.

As you say, he had started to settle in and looked solid against Roma, though he could have done more to help Criscito at times.
 

Stu

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I think he is a very good CB, not world class.

As you say, he had started to settle in and looked solid against Roma, though he could have done more to help Criscito at times.
Couldn't agree more. I find Andrade does his part well but he doesn't do much when it comes to providing cover for his partner.
 

Snoop

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Oct 2, 2001
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The problem is the defensive unit as a whole ie the midfield and the defence when we don't have possession.

Because the whole unit isn't working well, it is far too wasy for teams to expose our defenders one on one against forwards, which always makes mistakes more likely.
I agree here. It isn't just a matter of signing a high-profile player and expecting the whole backline to act as if they've been together for years. The defense was decimated by calciopoli. We're still trying to recover, and now we've got plenty of injuries to contend with too.

I don't think the personnel we have are all that terrible -- just that they have been plagued by injuries and have been thrown together as a unit for almost the first time. We should otherwise expect to get more out of them under different circumstances.
you said it yourself, that it is because of lacking some players. that was my point, the system is good, but it's just doesn't have the top players to fill it's seeds..

Not to forget, we lack good tacklers, Cannavaro's absence is very obvious, we need those lions who would tackles the opponents on an unexpected time. Criscito was responsible for both goals (maybe not entirely for the second), that player should play a 10 match a season at the moment, throwing him at defense against monsters like Roma was a bad move for the kid. you are killing his career and confidence this way. I know one thing, that If Cannavaro was there instead of Criscito, Totti wouldn't play like that, and those two goals wouldn't be scored that easily..


What a stupid journalist sentence. :wallbang:
Dude, you just can't call everyone who writes something as a Journalist, that would be an insult for the rest who are in the business for ages.
 

theone

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Jul 3, 2007
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We need Ivanovic and someone else.
I saw Lokomotiv-Spartak game yesterday.
Let me tell you, that Ivanovic guy is brilliant !!! SECCO, DONT BE STUPID, WE NEED HIM !!!
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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Couldn't agree more. I find Andrade does his part well but he doesn't do much when it comes to providing cover for his partner.
Andrade is very good, but not World Class.

That said, I do find it funny that with Criscito, people question how well Andrade covers his partner as if to lay part of the blame on him. Meanwhile, nobody asked these questions of Chiellini or Kovac last season when it came to Boumsong.
 

Eaglesnake_1

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Mar 28, 2004
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Even accepting that Roma was playing a much more fluid game and that they have a more accurate,solid and cohesive team,Juve shows off that we are capable to compete with any serie a team. Probably in the paper we dont have the strenght or the number of stars milanese teams have, or we are not playing the football Roma has right now, but still we can do very good job.it just was very bad luck to loose andrade that way. We will need to work out a lot in the synchonyzation of defense. Two interesting points of the game, in my opinion, was the way Zanetti is doing his job and also Grygera performance in his first game very positive.....
 

engonga

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Jul 22, 2005
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LMAO wat a joke, wat kills team more when u miss a penalty and a couple 100 percent chances a game or benching DP? he needs that capello treatment right now, he is our worst forward so far this season
i really believe he is our worst forward this season and he will continue to be like that after the renewal of his contract.
palla shoul get more space.
 

engonga

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Jul 22, 2005
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How incredibly shortsighted. Not to mention uncalled for.

Anyway Criscito's partner in crime, Andrade hasn't really done much better so far. Tough luck to Andrade, as I wouldn't wish such an injury on anyone, but to be honest I don't think we'll miss him much; he hasn't really left an impression on me.
same here
i've always seen this guy with depor and portugal just horrible.
very slow,poor man marking and a stuff of incredible faults every match.
i won't really miss him and i dont think the team will do, playing grygera and chiellini as CBs would be much better.
 
Jul 2, 2006
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We defended well.especially Grygera was solid except a few mistakes.

We deserved 1 point clearly.referee was sold again.

Their first goal is offside and there was a foul against Del Piero before their second goal.

Iaquinta is man of the match.Buffon,Grygera,Chiellini were good.
 

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