[Serie A] Palermo - Juventus (14 Viewers)

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


Don't get me wrong, I think we bought well, but we should've got someone creative as well as far as I'm concerned. David Pizarro and Mourad Meghni would've been relatively cheap options.

Anyways, given the players he has at his disposal I think Capello is still slightly at fault. If I had Camoranesi, Olivera, Kapo, Nedved and Del Piero in my squad the last thing I would do is feel obliged to play two defensive midfielders.
this lead to the question IS CREATIVITY RESPONSIBITY OF COACH OR PLAYERS?
 

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Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++

That is true,yes, but Nedved still does make his runs into the middle and acts as a playmaker IMO; he just has more defensive duties on the left than in the middle, like before.
And these defensive duties are keeping him back as well as the team offensively. When Nedved played in the centre he didn't have to do the tracking back he now has to and this allowed for quick transitions from the defensive midfield where Tacchinardi and Davids won the ball to our attacking third. Even if Pavel still acts as a playmaker, he was much more effective behind the strikers.
 
Dec 26, 2004
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Have u guys watch Trezeguet during this match???
it is not that DP could have done better, cuz even my grandmama could play better than Trezeguet yesterday....
I cannt understand how some of u rate him so high.... I would not be satisfy of his performance yesterday even if he scored an equalizer for us.... he was SLEEPING during the game, it is not like if I'm a finisher then I should rest my @ss till somone provide me with an easy ball....
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++

this lead to the question IS CREATIVITY RESPONSIBITY OF COACH OR PLAYERS?
A bit of both imo. The obvious answer would be the players, but Capello could have brought in someone with creativity or kept Nedved in the middle where his attacking qualities are much more useful than on the left. As it is, Nedved and Camoranesi have a lot of defending to do when we're under pressure, and when they're called upon to help out the back four, our strikers are even more isolated from the midfield than ever before. With Nedved behind them we would have a good attacking outlet to help the attackers. If Capello continues to play with 2 DMs and Neddy on the left flank, then DP should partner Zlatan because he'll at least drop deeper to help get the attacks started.
 

Daddi

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Oct 27, 2004
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hahha it was kinda fun to see that we lost yesterday. When Zlatan was benched the newspapers wrote: Juventus can't win without Zlatan. He is a key player. And he was given 90minutes and were sh1t hahaha :D
 

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by DelpieroForLife ] ++
Have u guys watch Trezeguet during this match???
it is not that DP could have done better, cuz even my grandmama could play better than Trezeguet yesterday....
I cannt understand how some of u rate him so high.... I would not be satisfy of his performance yesterday even if he scored an equalizer for us.... he was SLEEPING during the game, it is not like if I'm a finisher then I should rest my @ss till somone provide me with an easy ball....
TREZ is a finisher , he scores if there is ball reaching him , it is the responsibity of players like dp or nedved or zlatan to create chances , trez type of play is to wait for chances which is not that good for a attacker
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by David Del Piero ] ++
hahha it was kinda fun to see that we lost yesterday. When Zlatan was benched the newspapers wrote: Juventus can't win without Zlatan. He is a key player. And he was given 90minutes and were sh1t hahaha :D
gotta love this :D
 

Azzurri7

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++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++


TREZ is a finisher , he scores if there is ball reaching him , it is the responsibity of players like dp or nedved or zlatan to create chances , trez type of play is to wait for chances which is not that good for a attacker
Players don't WAIT.....
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by DelpieroForLife ] ++
Have u guys watch Trezeguet during this match???
it is not that DP could have done better, cuz even my grandmama could play better than Trezeguet yesterday....
I cannt understand how some of u rate him so high.... I would not be satisfy of his performance yesterday even if he scored an equalizer for us.... he was SLEEPING during the game, it is not like if I'm a finisher then I should rest my @ss till somone provide me with an easy ball....
This is no lie, but I saw more of Del Piero than Trezeguet yesterday :D

@m_elayyan: That isn't true. When DP is on the pitch and not performing you call for Trez or Zlatan to be brought on, but when Trez or Zlatan aren't doing well, as was the case yesterday, you say that Del Piero wouldn't have made a difference.
 
Dec 26, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++


TREZ is a finisher , he scores if there is ball reaching him , it is the responsibity of players like dp or nedved or zlatan to create chances , trez type of play is to wait for chances which is not that good for a attacker
He was sleeping during the match is that the responsibilty of DP too... he can run, pass cannt he???
 
Dec 26, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


A bit of both imo. The obvious answer would be the players, but Capello could have brought in someone with creativity or kept Nedved in the middle where his attacking qualities are much more useful than on the left. As it is, Nedved and Camoranesi have a lot of defending to do when we're under pressure, and when they're called upon to help out the back four, our strikers are even more isolated from the midfield than ever before. With Nedved behind them we would have a good attacking outlet to help the attackers. If Capello continues to play with 2 DMs and Neddy on the left flank, then DP should partner Zlatan because he'll at least drop deeper to help get the attacks started.
U reading my thought Stuart....
 

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by DelpieroForLife ] ++


He was sleeping during the match is that the responsibilty of DP too... he can run, pass cannt he???
no he cant , he can only wait near 6 meter box and score , thats why he was sleeping all the match because no balls reached him , which IS BAD i am not defendind trez , his style needs playmaker like kaka to create chances for him
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++

TREZ is a finisher , he scores if there is ball reaching him , it is the responsibity of players like dp or nedved or zlatan to create chances , trez type of play is to wait for chances which is not that good for a attacker
We're gonna go really far in Europe with a midfield that can't create and a striker who needs his teammates to put the ball right on his foot (or head) inside the area with some space... We already know that this midfield lacks creativity and that the service to the strikers won't be perfect, so why play someone like Trezeguet who NEEDS the service to be good when you know that the service won't be good.
 

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


We're gonna go really far in Europe with a midfield that can't create and a striker who needs his teammates to put the ball right on his foot (or head) inside the area with some space... We already know that this midfield lacks creativity and that the service to the strikers won't be perfect, so why play someone like Trezeguet who NEEDS the service to be good when you know that the service won't be good.
so what is the alternative???????????????????????????????????????
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++
no he cant , he can only wait near 6 meter box and score , thats why he was sleeping all the match because no balls reached him , which IS BAD i am not defendind trez , his style needs playmaker like kaka to create chances for him
AND WE DON'T HAVE A PLAYMAKER LIKE KAKA TO CREATE FOR HIM, SO WHY PLAY HIM?!?!?! UNTIL NEDVED RETURNS DEL PIERO SHOULD START BECAUSE THE SERVICE TO TREZEGUET IS PISH, AND WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE SERVICE TO TREZ ISN'T THERE, HE PLAYS HIDE AND SEEK (dig my sig y'all)
 

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