[Serie A] Palermo - Juventus (17 Viewers)

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Seven, no need for that, this guy is bashing Dp " Just to show that he knows about football, and you can have a debate with him " but honestly i don't see that, it's wasting of time talking to someone can't even give you one Clear sentence.....

m_ely , If you really wanna be "cool", the bashing Dp doesn't make you, try to find something else:)
Perhaps. I know Del Piero isn't going through his best spell, but I just can't stand it that people want to show how much they know by bashing DP. That's just plain ridiculous.
 

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Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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The difference is that it's not Cap's fault, but the players. We simply dont have the players for it.
If am not mistaken, you said it once we have the players we need to win the league....So i think it's all up to Capello...

You don't wanna bash Capello because he benched Dp last night eh?? hmmm but am sure you can ATLEAST be honest and say the truth, thats it's Capello's fault not the players...
 

Zlatan

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Jun 9, 2003
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If am not mistaken, you said it once we have the players we need to win the league....So i think it's all up to Capello...

You don't wanna bash Capello because he benched Dp last night eh?? hmmm but am sure you can ATLEAST be honest and say the truth, thats it's Capello's fault not the players...

Again, this has nothing to do with Del Piero. I said that we have the players to win the leageu, and I still think we do, but we dont have the players to play beautiful attacking football, IMO. There's a difference.

And you want it to be Capello's fault just because he's benching Del Piero.

Like it or not, it's the players that play out there, not the coach, and there's only so much he can do. If you have lemons, you make lemonade. Juve cant play beautiful, attacking foorball with it's current players. Thats a fact, and that has nothing to do with Capello.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++


Perhaps. I know Del Piero isn't going through his best spell, but I just can't stand it that people want to show how much they know by bashing DP. That's just plain ridiculous.
These people THINK If they bash Dp, they know about Football, you can never discuss with them about football, if you tell them Viduka is the best player in the world, they'll tell you " Yes, and Dp is the worst" So in each debate or argument they have to put Del Piero in the Middle....
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Again, this has nothing to do with Del Piero. I said that we have the players to win the leageu, and I still think we do, but we dont have the players to play beautiful attacking football, IMO. There's a difference.

And you want it to be Capello's fault just because he's benching Del Piero.

Like it or not, it's the players that play out there, not the coach, and there's only so much he can do. If you have lemons, you make lemonade. Juve cant play beautiful, attacking foorball with it's current players. Thats a fact, and that has nothing to do with Capello.
We all know Juve aint playing Attacking Football since Capello took charge YET we were able to win alot of important matches....Explain me this??
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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And you think you know about football because you think Del Piero is the football reincarnation of Jesus Christ? :rolleyes:
Nah Zlatan, BUT because i think he can play in the 2nd half when you have two assholes playing like my grandfather!
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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For the love of god, so yes Beckham is a smart guy that plays the market. So what? He has been a terrific football player and to a lesser extent still is. It's not because you're somewhat smarter than most moronic football players, you're no good. You don't have to be retarded to be a good football player .
Agreed!
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Oh and 1 thing i'd like to say it to you Zlatan, You've been here alot during the matches, and I never saw you happy for the Dp 7 goals this season...now tell me i don't hate him or this has nothing to do with him....ATLEAST i am a Juve supporter, when Zlatan or Trezeguet Score, i jump off my chair holding my flag, Not Like you Others,,,,,,Crying because Del Piero Scored.....
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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And you think you know about football because you think Del Piero is the football reincarnation of Jesus Christ? :rolleyes:
The weird thing is Zlatan, that the DP-bashers talk more about Del Piero than the DP-lovers do. You can't blame DP for everything that goes wrong. I don't think that they're as objective as they claim to be. In fact I even believe the DP-lovers are more objective than them. How strange it might sound, they're biased against Del Piero. And though I've just said this, I DO NOT think Del Piero should start every game.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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The difference is that it's not Cap's fault, but the players. We simply dont have the players for it.
I agree that we don't have the players to play good, attractive, attacking football, but isn't it Capello's fault that we don't have those players? Isn't it Capello who asked for Emerson and requested that we keep Blasi, Tacchinardi and Appiah? Just as easily as he told Moggi to go for Cannavaro he could have told him to go for Rosicky. It is Capello that chose to play a system with two defensive midfielders. It is Capello that chose to rely on a sturdy defence to get results. IMO, if Capello wanted this Juve team to play like Roma did last season his purchases would have been different, as would the formation and mentality, but that's not what he wanted.
 

Zlatan

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Jun 9, 2003
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We all know Juve aint playing Attacking Football since Capello took charge YET we were able to win alot of important matches....Explain me this??
What is there to explain? You can win by not playing attcking, whats so strange about that?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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If Del Piero would have played yesterday and Juventus would have lost, everyone would be here bashing Del Piero. So far Zlatan and Trezeguet haven't received all that much criticism. Of course they were criticised, but had it been Del Piero the whole world would have gone crazy.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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Again, this has nothing to do with Del Piero. I said that we have the players to win the leageu, and I still think we do, but we dont have the players to play beautiful attacking football, IMO. There's a difference.

And you want it to be Capello's fault just because he's benching Del Piero.

Like it or not, it's the players that play out there, not the coach, and there's only so much he can do. If you have lemons, you make lemonade. Juve cant play beautiful, attacking foorball with it's current players. Thats a fact, and that has nothing to do with Capello.
Do you really think that Capello had no say in who we bought over the summer?
 

Zlatan

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Jun 9, 2003
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Oh and 1 thing i'd like to say it to you Zlatan, You've been here alot during the matches, and I never saw you happy for the Dp 7 goals this season...now tell me i don't hate him or this has nothing to do with him....ATLEAST i am a Juve supporter, when Zlatan or Trezeguet Score, i jump off my chair holding my flag, Not Like you Others,,,,,,Crying because Del Piero Scored.....
First of all, I usully come here after the matches, not during. And second, I'm glad for the team whoever scores, I dont care if it's del piero, trez or zlatan.


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The weird thing is Zlatan, that the DP-bashers talk more about Del Piero than the DP-lovers do. You can't blame DP for everything that goes wrong. I don't think that they're as objective as they claim to be. In fact I even believe the DP-lovers are more objective than them. How strange it might sound, they're biased against Del Piero. And though I've just said this, I DO NOT think Del Piero should start every game.

Not true. The whole teams gets critisizm when it's playing badly, if DP gets any more its because he played worse than the other players or was invisible, which is not all that uncommon.


++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


I agree that we don't have the players to play good, attractive, attacking football, but isn't it Capello's fault that we don't have those players? Isn't it Capello who asked for Emerson and requested that we keep Blasi, Tacchinardi and Appiah? Just as easily as he told Moggi to go for Cannavaro he could have told him to go for Rosicky. It is Capello that chose to play a system with two defensive midfielders. It is Capello that chose to rely on a sturdy defence to get results. IMO, if Capello wanted this Juve team to play like Roma did last season his purchases would have been different, as would the formation and mentality, but that's not what he wanted.

Oh, come on Stuart, you know it's not that easy. Like Capello can just say "Give me Rosicky". You know thta Juventus has a budget to maintain, and he did the best with the funds he had. He got a defender, a midfielder and a striker. Players cost money su, and we all know how stingy moggi is.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
If Del Piero would have played yesterday and Juventus would have lost, everyone would be here bashing Del Piero. So far Zlatan and Trezeguet haven't received all that much criticism. Of course they were criticised, but had it been Del Piero the whole world would have gone crazy.
If Del Piero starts the next match and doesn't deliver then people are going to want his head on a stick, saying that he shouldn't have started even though Trez was pish yesterday, but if DP sucked and Trez started ahead of him in the next match and failed to make a contribution, they'll say, ah well, he should've started anyways because DP doesn't deserve to be in the first team.
 

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
If Del Piero would have played yesterday and Juventus would have lost, everyone would be here bashing Del Piero. So far Zlatan and Trezeguet haven't received all that much criticism. Of course they were criticised, but had it been Del Piero the whole world would have gone crazy.
we are not critisizing players , we are saying that the team as a whole is not playing as they should play
 

Zlatan

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Jun 9, 2003
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Do you really think that Capello had no say in who we bought over the summer?
He did, but he bought what he tought was neccessary, you know we arent Chelsea.
 

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