SERIE A: Lazio - Juventus (9 Viewers)

kaizer

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Nov 1, 2003
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man...loosing suck! :down:

i'm just another spoilt juve fan...not used to loosing so many games :D

forza juve...! i know we can bounce back.....parma better be ready for some trashing *i hope*




:D:D
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by -Z- ] ++

Del Piero has totally ****ed up the team balance.
I can't help but notice the same thing...that we haven't won a game since Del Piero came back. I know i'm gonna get bashed for this, because it's just a coincidence and DP is still returning from injury, but Di Vaio's not feeling the responsibility of being Del Piero's sub anymore, and he's just playing shite.

We seem to lose games against teams with any real kind of determination. Inter needed to redeem themselves after their performance against Arsenal, likewise Lazio with Siena.

Maybe we just win half our matches because everyone just gives up and says "Oh damn, it's Juve. Why bother playing our best?", but as soon as teams with determination step up to the challenge, we seem to play mediocre at best.

No excuses about Lazio being our bogey team, that's not good enough for the champions
 

Hydde

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Mar 6, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++


I can't help but notice the same thing...that we haven't won a game since Del Piero came back. I know i'm gonna get bashed for this, because it's just a coincidence and DP is still returning from injury, but Di Vaio's not feeling the responsibility of being Del Piero's sub anymore, and he's just playing shite.

We seem to lose games against teams with any real kind of determination. Inter needed to redeem themselves after their performance against Arsenal, likewise Lazio with Siena.

Maybe we just win half our matches because everyone just gives up and says "Oh damn, it's Juve. Why bother playing our best?", but as soon as teams with determination step up to the challenge, we seem to play mediocre at best.

No excuses about Lazio being our bogey team, that's not good enough for the champions
Yeah, saldy that is a very bad coincidence.... since DP´s arrival, everything is going wrong.

But that is not an escuse to use himas a scape goat. I really dont know what is happening, but we are failin...and we need to improve in the upcoming games .

Lets hope that everytjing will change soon.
 

kaizer

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Nov 1, 2003
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naahh.....just a coincidence :D

it's not the end of the world guys.....loosing is not that bad :D what made it look bad is that we lost back-to-back-to-back games.....oouch!!
 

*aca*

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Jul 15, 2002
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on media set they were just commenting on the game and they ranked the players.

According to these "specialists"

Montero 5
Legr 5
DP 5
Trez 4:D

best ranked of Juve players was buffon at 7. Had two great saves, one from miha free kick other from stam low shot.

btw, your defence was to blame for second goal for sure. Fiore was on his own in front of the goal.



You should have seen moggi after the game:eek: with bunch of body-guards, pushing everyone away, really rough. Man, was he pissed off or what:D
 

kaizer

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Nov 1, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by *aca* ] ++

You should have seen moggi after the game:eek: with bunch of body-guards, pushing everyone away, really rough. Man, was he pissed off or what:D

:LOL::LOL::LOL:

man....what i wud give to see that
 

mate

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Aug 28, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Hydde ] ++


Yeah, saldy that is a very bad coincidence.... since DP´s arrival, everything is going wrong.

But that is not an escuse to use himas a scape goat. I really dont know what is happening, but we are failin...and we need to improve in the upcoming games .

Lets hope that everytjing will change soon.
Yes. And I think he also influence the bad prestation of his attakking mates. Sometimes I think Del Piero is Lippi illegittime son... why Lippi keep on leaving in the field? Space to DV and also Miccoli when he is also in a bad day.

An other thing I don't understand is why also others players like Appiah, Nedved and Camo are in those shitty conditions... We are not even in the mddle of the season... are they already tired???

And why Davids is always in the bench? He cannot be worst than this so why don't allow him to try?

Is umbelivable... till one week ago we looked unstoppable and now we looks so weak... it was obvious that we could not continue to always win and to score like crazy that way... a bit of down is normal but this too mutch!
 

Zizou

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Apr 21, 2003
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What a bad game! Congrats to Lazio who showed more balls.

Well last year during more or less this period, we lost 2 consecutive league games, and our real league form started from there. Hopefully it iwll be the same starting from next Sunday when we have 7 consecutive games against teams we can (and must) defeat: Parma (H), Lecce (A), Perugia (H), Sampdoria (A), Siena (H), Empoli (A) and Chievo (H).

Zlatan and gray you're right but unluckily Lippi will go on with fielding him :down:
 

kaizer

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Nov 1, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Zizou ] ++

Parma (H), Lecce (A), Perugia (H), Sampdoria (A), Siena (H), Empoli (A) and Chievo (H).

those teams wud fancy their chance against us now, wudnt they.....

only a win.....nothing else wud be accepted! :fero:
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
It amazes me to hear the attacks on lippi from people that arent evn watching the match.

Lippi's starting line up was what 9 out of 10 would have chosen.
It in no way was lippi's fault that his players were all awful and dont forget that lazio are a quality side and played a very good first half.

The changes lippi made after half time (dv, maresca, ferrara) completely changed the game and we dominated nigh on the entire second half... unfortunately we didnt score... What more can you ask from a coach.

First half ::

Defense was absolutely disgraceful

Mid was poor except tacchi who made what he could.
Camo especially bad, and nedved as with last week was totally inneffective jus runnin around like a headless chicken but never bringing the ball out of midfield for his forwards.

Forwards had no blame for the first half .. neither dp or trez had the opportunity to do anything due to our dire midfield and defense.

Second half ::

Ferrara sured up the backline.

Maresca added some creativity after camo abscence in the first half... meaning tacchi and appiah could sit back annd control.

Di vaio coming on for trez gave us more movement up front and more importantly allowed dp to drop a bit deeper.

Overall a good second half but for some awful finnishing from di vaio and legro putting an easy header high

3 times dp put him in with great chances and marco couldnt hit the target.

nedved was still inneffective in the second half creating nothing.

Dp and maresca both had good second halves, being our only creative players.

Di vaio played well and gave us many more options than trez did btut he cant finnish

Zambrotta was poor in his first game back but still i feel was our best option

The dp / divaio pairing definately bears more fruit, but marco must sort out his finnishing.


Overall i can never be too dissapointed to lose to such a team as lazio and our second half play gave signs that we arent in to much trouble.... the defense is definately worrying me though.
Thanks for the comments Paul :)
 
Nov 1, 2002
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we lose because del piero playing?!
where was di vaio the last season?
if del piero injuried and want to resume and get back his form where should he play?!

i think midfielders worry too much about the defense thats why they dont play well because the defence is old and slow

did you see camoranesi get back and run to defence the last season? i dont think so

in my openion the problem is the defence everybody worrying about the defence and need to run all the match and everywhere in the field
 

mate

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Aug 28, 2002
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First half was disgraseful but IMO in the second we didn't do nothing either... especially considering that Lazio was winning and with Muzzi, Lopez, Miha and Giannichedda injured stopped forsing we could do something more.
I didn't see any reaction :groan:
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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Why is Del Piero getting all the blame although he was better than Trezeguet and didn't miss as many chances as Di Vaio?
 

Zizou

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Apr 21, 2003
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They were all as bad, no one was better or worse than any one. DP obviously takes responsability cos for the money he's paid he should be doing much more than he's doing. He didn't miss any chances cos he did not have any chances apart from that volley in the first half. Fact is, since his return, our attack is not the same as he slows down our forward line. Lippi should play him next Tuesday and let Miccoli-DV play the next league match.
 

mate

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Aug 28, 2002
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Because Treze is a finalizer so if he do not recive any balls, what he can do? Anycase he also has to move too. Both sucked!!!
DV was better than the 2 cause at list tried to do something and do not stay still all the match doing nothing hoping that the perfect ball will arrive on his feet...
Maybe it was the time to give Miccoli an occasion, anycase 4 me at the moment the best attakk is DV +Treze, they weare doing so well lately.
 

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