Serie A: Juventus vs Sampdoria [Jan 20 2008] (19 Viewers)

[Diego]

Formazione A disposizione

1 Buffon--------------12 Belardi
2 Birindelli------------30 Tiago
33 Legrottaglie-------18 Boumsong
21 Grygera------------4 Almiron
28 Molinaro----------36 Esposito
32 Marchionni--------20 Palladino
7 Salihamidzic---------9 Iaquinta
6 Zanetti
11 Nedved
17 Trezeguet
10 Del Piero

 

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[Juve per sempre]

In Gazetta dello Sport Esposito is on our bench.... Have we bought him??

Nop,it is another Esposito,a Primavera player I think.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Simone Esposito is most promising player in Primavera atm

 

[Seven]

U could 've simply said this.

Anyway, I think u just didnt understand him,he used the word believing and by believing he meant believing in someone(ex;God) or believing in smthing and not (believing that).
but if he told u that it is okay for someone to think that the people of any race or religion should be all dead, then he is a fucken racist but I dont think he said this.

Fine, I'll make it easier for you. Since you think the concept of believing automatically points to the existence of God, what about this:

someone believes in Nasri-abd Allmanah, this is the name of his god. Now Nasri-abd Allmanah has told him to write down a book. Our faithful guy writes down this book and to his astonishment reads that Nasri-abd Allmanah tells him to kill all muslims.

Is this ok?

 

[Cuti]

Nop,it is another Esposito,a Primavera player I think.

He is a winger in the Primavera

Simone Esposito is most promising player in Primavera atm

together with Pasquato

 

[Alex66]

The formation I would play is a risky one(you need good odefenders and DM), but in the 4-3-3 you need strong mids(we have not). So I would try a

-------------------Buffon
------Grygera--Legrottaglie--Boumsong
Salihamidzic---Almiron---Zanetti---Nedved
------Iaquinta------------Del Piero
----------------Trezeguet

Brazzo and Neddy should playing more like wingbacks and the two CM should help the defence too. But maybe I havent a clear head form the party I was at

 

[Juve per sempre]

Fine, I'll make it easier for you. Since you think the concept of believing automatically points to the existence of God, what about this:

someone believes in Nasri-abd Allmanah, this is the name of his god. Now Nasri-abd Allmanah has told him to write down a book. Our faithful guy writes down this book and to his astonishment reads that Nasri-abd Allmanah tells him to kill all muslims.

Is this ok?

No it is not okay.

Everybody is entitled to believe in whoever or whatever he wants to believe in wether it is believing in God,Nasri-abd..... or even a Cow.

If a person believe that a whole race or religion should be killed, then he is a fucken racist but again neither me nor u nor any legal system could do anything about it but the moment he starts acting by his believes and start hurting that certain race or religion or even provoking people on hurting that certain race or religion(in the case of ur Nasri guy),then and only then he could be legalised.

What I am tryin to say here is that the concept of the word Believing is that it is smthing that comes from the heart and stays in the heart,but when it is translated into acts then it is not believing anymore.

 

[Seven]

No it is not okay.

Everybody is entitled to believe in whoever or whatever he wants to believe in wether it is believing in God,Nasri-abd..... or even a Cow.

If a person believe that a whole race or religion should be killed, then he is a fucken racist but again neither me nor u nor any legal system could do anything about it but the moment he starts acting by his believes and start hurting that certain race or religion or even provoking people on hurting that certain race or religion(in the case of ur Nasri guy),then and only then he could be legalised.

What I am tryin to say here is that the concept of the word Believing is that it is smthing that comes from the heart and stays in the heart,but when it is translated into acts then it is not believing anymore.

So could I be a muslim if I didn't actually do anything, but just believed in Allah?

 

[Cuti]

Tuttosport: Guai per Ranieri E allarme Nedved

Tuttosport: Caution for Ranieri, alarms for Nedved.

I think Nedved has an injury cause even on calciomercato it said that Nedved did not train today. Thats all we need another injury

 

[Juve per sempre]

So could I be a muslim if I didn't actually do anything, but just believed in Allah?

Actually,Cristians and Jews also believe in Allah.

& no there are certain other thing u have to do to become a Muslim but I dont think this is the right place to talk about it.

 

[Arvin]

Actually,Cristians and Jews also believe in Allah.

& no there are certain other thing u have to do to become a Muslim but I dont think this is the right place to talk about it.

whats with you two guys...talking about muslims in this thread......

 

[JCK]

Winning a football game is not about stopping the opponent actually, it is about winning the game simply. Let us define win while we're at it, to win a football game means you have to score more goals than your opponent and that's about it.

I am not going to talk about the defensive line now because it is not the issue and the defensive line does not win you the game solely it is just a part of the equation but I'll get back to that later.

In normal conditions where the sun is shining, the players are happy, fresh and have a lot in their legs we have had a lot of trouble creating chances and threatening our opponents with the straight 4-4-2. In such conditions we relied all the time on a Nedved moment of brilliance, a Del Piero touch of magic, a loose ball reaching Trezeguet or a hyper Iaquinta coming in late where the opponents are tired. These were the only ways we scored galls, these were the only ways we put the ball away in the opponent's net. Nothing coming from the midfield (except from Nedved or Camoranesi who has rarely played anyway).

During these normal conditions our defenders along with the two poles did well to cover for the absence of ideas and the ineptness of some players, the defenders were on top form namely Chiellini and Legrottaglie, to some extent Zebina as well. These are not here now and we have to do with Boumsong and Grygera.

During the normal, conditions because our defenders are not world class or lack experience in top games it was Gigi who saved us but in the end, in the very end it all went to our main four men to bring in the games, these four men are in random order Del Piero, Nedved, Iaquinta and Trezeguet.

Now let us work down the game at hand. How can we take the victory? By stopping our opponents? By helping the defenders? Why?

I have a big question here, why should we field more clueless midfielders (Palladino and Salihamidzic) to help the defenders whose job is to actually stop the opponent from scoring instead of using more players to help the forwards net balls in?

I know one answer to that question and it is to "create balance"

I have to disagree with Azzurri7 here and say it really does recquire calculations at this moment in time. You create balance when you have a balanced ship so it will not sink, but when the back of the ship has already started sinking, you simply leave it and go all the way to the front.

Unfortunately this is our situation, we don't have a back and we should put all the weight up top. Field as many forwards and men that can score as possible and keep the ball in the opponent's field. Strangle them with man power!

I really have no idea who are the defenders that can play tomorrow but this is how I would play:

Buffon
Grygera Birindelli (Some CB) Salihamidzic
Zanetti
Marchionni Nedved
Iaquinta Trezeguet Del Piero​

 

[Salvatore]

Very similar to what Spurs do then. Balance is what is needed though.

 

[JCK]

We can worry about balance once we have good players we can rely on, right now or only objective is to score more than Sampdoria, the game could very well end 6-5. I don't care as long as we take the three points.

 

[Arvin]

I really have no idea who are the defenders that can play tomorrow but this is how I would play:

Buffon
Grygera Birindelli (Some CB) Salihamidzic
Zanetti
Marchionni Nedved
Iaquinta Trezeguet Del Piero​

ilike the formation but i dont wanna risk it ATM....i thaught we should play an attacking style but in this match we need to attack both from sides and centers...IMP...sampdoria are in good form.

 

[Juve per sempre]

Very similar to what Spurs do then. Balance is what is needed though.

Man,this Piss Piss, Poo Poo is helarious.

 

[JCK]

ilike the formation but i dont wanna risk it ATM....i thaught we should play an attacking style but in this match we need to attack both from sides and centers...IMP...sampdoria are in good form.

Playing a straight 4-4-2 is risking creativity and less people who can bring in goals.

 

[Juve per sempre]

I cant understand why evrybody is counting Molinaro out of his excpected formation, when it is very obvious that he will start.

 

[Snoop]

U could 've simply said this.

Anyway, I think u just didnt understand him,he used the word believing and by believing he meant believing in someone(ex;God) or believing in smthing and not (believing that).

Exactly! This is what he fails to understand. and gave me that example, now denying it like a bitch, and the thing is he takes it too personal, and follows me here in this thread and make new arguments just for the sake of it.

 

[Seven]

Actually,Cristians and Jews also believe in Allah.

& no there are certain other thing u have to do to become a Muslim but I dont think this is the right place to talk about it.

Don't worry about it, mate. I always knew I was right and you were wrong. If you believe in a God, you're going to act accordingly. Don't pretend the two aren't intertwined.