Serie A: Juventus vs Roma [Feb 16 , 2008] (20 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

2. Complete agreement about Molinaro also. He is our only and thus the best, solution for a left back.
And i don't understand some people here. I don't like Molinaro, i don't hate him either so i think i'm watching him objectively. He's not talented at all but his performances lately have been solid. Why do some of you attack him match after match, even when he plays ok ?
He wasn't our worse player yesterday. He was our best defender. I payed attention to it a lot and Molinaro defended better than Chiellini and Legro.
As for his crosses...they aren't good, but why don't you ask yourselves why is he making so many crosses per match ? Is it because he runs the hell out of him and he has enough power to play defense-attack all the time ? Why none of our full backs is so much involved in attack ?
Blame Ranieri if you don't like what you see because it's Ranieri who should tell him to stop making crosses. Don't blame Molinaro.

I guess this is partially aimed at me so I'll respond. The reason why I attack Molinaro after every match is because he's been either the worst player on the pitch for us or close to the worse... almost every match. Yesterday Nocerino was by far the worst player on the pitch for us, but Molinaro was not far off from that standard. Why? Molinaro had four crosses, two of which were horrid, and he held Roma players onside on two occasions which could have cost us. He wasted good opportunities and was owned by Giuly in the second half.

People will say he runs hard, which is an asset, perhaps it is, but all of our players run hard. In my opinion Molinaro did not play well yesterday.

 

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[Bjerknes]

I saw it
I prefer not to talk about that issue here. Andy will destroy us
PM me if you want to talk about that

Our Embassy is on fire in Belgrade?

 

[Bjerknes]

First of all - he didn't. I don't remember some mega performance by Giuly and i don't remember Giuly making an immediate impact.
Second - Giuly is one of the fastest players in serie A, maybe the fastest of them all. And when you introduce him in the 3rd part of the match, when his opponent already played 60 minutes and ran more than 7km's, he'll always be hard to stop.

I thought Molinaro was one of the fastest players in Serie A too?

This is exactly what i'm talking about Cronios. Even when some players certain members here don't like, play good, these same members won't give them the credit they deserve but they'll find every possible excuse to minimize and play down their achievements.
Yeah right, Molinaro played well only because his opponent was bad.
Can't we say it the other way around ? Taddei was bad because he wasn't given any space and because he was perfectly covered ?
Because if it was Chiellini at LB all of us would have praised him for shutting down Taddei.

What credit does Molinaro deserve after this match?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Our Embassy is on fire in Belgrade?

Yeah.But not just American if that helps.

 

[Bjerknes]

How the fuck does Molinaro deserve a higher rating than ZANETTI after yesterday's match???

Fuck sympathy points, people.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yeah.But not just American if that helps.

The fuckers over here on CNN aren't even mentioning the situation in the Balkans right now. Fucking cunts.

 

[Gill_juve]

i went to london today and trafalgar square was packed with kosovans making soo much noise. no offence but half those people dont want to go back its funny that they are celebrating independence like that .

ps. the kosovans were flying albanian flags and stuff why?

 

[Alen]

ps. the kosovans were flying albanian flags and stuff why?

Because they are Albanians.
"Kosovars" are Albanians who live in Kosovo

 

[Gill_juve]

Because they are Albanians.
"Kosovars" are Albanians who live in Kosovo

ohh i see, so will they join albania or just stay as a seperate nation?

 

[ZAF3000]

In Ranieri's shoes, would I have replaced Camo with Tiago? Maybe if we were playing Livorno not Roma.
I agree Nocerino was a complete disaster last night. But for me, and looking at previous performances Tiago would have been a really bad call. The problem with Tiago is that he doesn't put enough effort on the field. He doesn't run enough. Nocerino on the other hand runs alot, even if aimless at some occassions but he does put an effort. The last thing we needed last night is someone to stand there doing nothing. Just waiting for the ball to arrive to him and maybe make an atempt or two to win the ball back.
Nocerino is better deffensively as well.

That is said, I think I would have put in Palladino instead of Nocerino. Then bring in Sissoko in for Neddy.

I think it was a tough call.

But personally, I think we've seen enough of Molinaro. Time for Georgio to go back to the left and bring in the Lazio chap in the center.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Honestly, Tiago would have been a BIG gamble in this game. Who knows what would have happened if Tiago played?

 

[Bjerknes]

Honestly, Tiago would have been a BIG gamble in this game. Who knows what would have happened if Tiago played?

He couldn't be any worse than Nocerino.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

For defending a 1 goal lead, it would be dangerous to rely on him.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Eat donks, eat butts, fuck my mother in her face.....

- Francesco Totti

 

[DelpieroForLife]

What kind of retard are Molinaro and Nocerino, even Trezeguet is playing a decent cross from time to time.

 

[Bjerknes]

For defending a 1 goal lead, it would be dangerous to rely on him.

Yes, because keeping possession when defending a one goal lead isn't neccessary.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I know what he's capable of that but he hasn't shown it for us in the many chances he had, so it would be strange to give him another chance in a game like that. Yes, Nocerino is a rugby player that runs around like a headless chicken, but at least his harrying and running and chopping is a little useful.

 

[Alen]

For defending a 1 goal lead, it would be dangerous to rely on him.

Maybe, but don't you think it's not smart to defend a one goal lead for 45 minutes ?
We were doing great the way it was. Perfect tactics by Ranieri. We really didn't need to change anything so early in the match.
That's why i think it would have been smarter to play Tiago instead of Nocerino. We could have easily doubled the lead that way while we were sharpless this way.

Only later we could have introduced Sissoko for Trez and maybe even Nocerino in last 10 minutes.

We won so no reason to complain, i know. I just think it would have been smarter to use the same formation and try to finish them off instead of defending the lead.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Maybe, but don't you think it's not smart to defend a one goal lead for 45 minutes ?
We were doing great the way it was. Perfect tactics by Ranieri. We really didn't need to change anything so early in the match.
That's why i think it would have been smarter to play Tiago instead of Nocerino. We could have easily doubled the lead that way while we were sharpless this way.

Only later we could have introduced Sissoko for Trez and maybe even Nocerino in last 10 minutes.

We won so no reason to complain, i know. I just think it would have been smarter to use the same formation and try to finish them off instead of defending the lead.

Of course, I was pissed when Camo came off, especially because it was Nocerino coming on. But if he had to come off for fitness reasons, I would have preferred Momo to come on but... Ranieri.

 

[Azzurri7]

I was the first one on the forums who criticized Molinaro and bashed him. But lets not lie to ourselves and criticize him just because over-all and most of his games he doesn't performe.

When he doesn't give it, we all criticize him, but lets just keep it real from time to time, and I don't really want to look like Molinarist, as I'd never be.