Serie A: Juventus vs Roma [Feb 16 , 2008] (2 Viewers)

May 22, 2007
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I can understand Ranieri's choices towards Molinaro. He hasn't go many options though Molinaro is doing better defensively and not improving up-front, still Ranieri hasn't got options towards Molinaro to sub him.

But for Nocerino things are going out of hand.
I agree with you about Nocerino.

We could have easily put Chiellini at left back and someone else (Stendardo?) in the middle. I know thats what I wanted. Molinaro is good going forward until he crosses, and defensively he is average. Chiellini's natural position is left back so playing him there would have been the sensible thing to me.
 

Amaurisimo

Senior Member
Dec 8, 2007
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btw. thanks for report, but Sissoko did not make that many fauls, dont let me switch DVD and count it..He was solid for me, and Moli deserves bit more credit too
switch DVD and count (and from the minute he entered)
ok, it took me some time but it was worthy..

he entered in 68th minute

70th min, got passed by Rossi and it was only time when he lost ball (he never had ball btw)
in 72 nd min. he flick ball with head to DP
in 74 min he made short pass to molinaro and this to Neddy
also same 74th min he made short pass to zanetti with head
in 75th min. he blocked shot and ball went far but to Roma's players
also 75 min. he made faul , but clearly took a ball..ref. mistake for sure..
76min. he pass ball to neddy
also in 76 min, he made faul. 1st one for me. Roam had great shot but it was offside - gigi saved anyway
in 77 he won ball in air and passed to DP who played dangerously - but it was ref.s mistake again
78 won a header in our 16m
and 78 same minute again stop romas atack and passed to Noce
80' won ball in air and flicked towards Noce who passed to DP
in 85' he took ball out of our 16 but lost it to Manchini, and than Momo took ball back and got nice ovation from crowds.ball passed to DP
86' he passed ball to DP again who got stopped by faul.
86'again he was doing his "shoe lasses"
88' he made short pass again
in 90' he made short pass to DP and getting ovations again
92 wining the ball in air but going to romas players
94' stopping a roma's cross by sending ball to out


so let me see...


he made 2 fouls one of them was not (wrong decision by Ref.)
and he got passed once deep into roma's half..

He's done very well. Now you go and switch DVD and check it

So i guess Im right and you are wrong this time..
 

Amaurisimo

Senior Member
Dec 8, 2007
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I said Tiago would have been better.

YOU said Palladino.
yes i did say it , I also said Tiago..but also i said that i noticed camo in free role...
my main concern was why camo out...but now we all now why..anyway u r right

and u dule stop smiling otherwise i would start doing the same ..every time when Ruineri do something more than u want it or Shitsoko
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Once again, Ranieri makes wrong subs, ruins the second half AGAIN like the previous matches! Zebina my man gives a great performance, Molinaro sucks again, Del Piero saves our ass again. This team has potential, but Ranieri is ruining it, we could end up with a draw while we could win it comfortably, he risked the 3 points again just like he did against Fiorentina, Torino Roma (previously) and others, luck was on our side again, but we were a little better than the previous weeks..
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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Tbh snoop, I think Ranieri did everything good in today's game, except for the Nocerino thing. Other than that he was spot on, in almost everything.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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It didn't really ruin the game, it was more like playing 10men with Nocerino on the field. But in terms of tactics, we out-played Roma.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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It soo annoying watching him last night.
I can understand Ranieri's choices towards Molinaro. He hasn't go many options though Molinaro is doing better defensively and not improving up-front, still Ranieri hasn't got options towards Molinaro to sub him.

But for Nocerino things are going out of hand.
Sissoko was on top, he made a diff since he entered.
Tbh snoop, I think Ranieri did everything good in today's game, except for the Nocerino thing. Other than that he was spot on, in almost everything.
There is something wrong here. Either with you or with me.
Because these are the exact same things i'd say :p

1. I'm also annoyed while watching Nocerino. Last night he was even more handicaped because he had to substitute Camoranesi and there is so much difference in quality and creativity between the two of them, it's not even funny.
It's like Trezeguet replacing Ale as a trequartista.

2. Complete agreement about Molinaro also. He is our only and thus the best, solution for a left back.
And i don't understand some people here. I don't like Molinaro, i don't hate him either so i think i'm watching him objectively. He's not talented at all but his performances lately have been solid. Why do some of you attack him match after match, even when he plays ok ?
He wasn't our worse player yesterday. He was our best defender. I payed attention to it a lot and Molinaro defended better than Chiellini and Legro.
As for his crosses...they aren't good, but why don't you ask yourselves why is he making so many crosses per match ? Is it because he runs the hell out of him and he has enough power to play defense-attack all the time ? Why none of our full backs is so much involved in attack ?
Blame Ranieri if you don't like what you see because it's Ranieri who should tell him to stop making crosses. Don't blame Molinaro.

3. Spot on. Sissoko was a joy to watch yesterday

4. Ranieri did very well yesterday. He gets 8/10 from me
 

tassard

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2004
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We had a decent performance and we won the 2nd team in italy(in the table).
Why do you still moaning?What more did you want in this game?
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,133
Also, i'd like to add that i'd give my right hand for a new left back, but it doesn't mean i have to be biased whenever i talk about Molinaro.
No matter what he does some of the members here will attack him.
 

Amaurisimo

Senior Member
Dec 8, 2007
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There is something wrong here. Either with you or with me.
Because these are the exact same things i'd say :p

1. I'm also annoyed while watching Nocerino. Last night he was even more handicaped because he had to substitute Camoranesi and there is so much difference in quality and creativity between the two of them, it's not even funny.
It's like Trezeguet replacing Ale as a trequartista.

2. Complete agreement about Molinaro also. He is our only and thus the best, solution for a left back.
And i don't understand some people here. I don't like Molinaro, i don't hate him either so i think i'm watching him objectively. He's not talented at all but his performances lately have been solid. Why do some of you attack him match after match, even when he plays ok ?
He wasn't our worse player yesterday. He was our best defender. I payed attention to it a lot and Molinaro defended better than Chiellini and Legro.
As for his crosses...they aren't good, but why don't you ask yourselves why is he making so many crosses per match ? Is it because he runs the hell out of him and he has enough power to play defense-attack all the time ? Why none of our full backs is so much involved in attack ?
Blame Ranieri if you don't like what you see because it's Ranieri who should tell him to stop making crosses. Don't blame Molinaro.

3. Spot on. Sissoko was a joy to watch yesterday

4. Ranieri did very well yesterday. He gets 8/10 from me

we are all with you Alen.
But don't tell them to blame Ranieri for Molinaro's crossing he is blamed for almost everything anyway...:p
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,691
There is something wrong here. Either with you or with me.
Because these are the exact same things i'd say :p

1. I'm also annoyed while watching Nocerino. Last night he was even more handicaped because he had to substitute Camoranesi and there is so much difference in quality and creativity between the two of them, it's not even funny.
It's like Trezeguet replacing Ale as a trequartista.
:lol: I know it's not funny, but reading this I couldn't help it but laugh.

2. Complete agreement about Molinaro also. He is our only and thus the best, solution for a left back.
And i don't understand some people here. I don't like Molinaro, i don't hate him either so i think i'm watching him objectively. He's not talented at all but his performances lately have been solid. Why do some of you attack him match after match, even when he plays ok ?
He wasn't our worse player yesterday. He was our best defender. I payed attention to it a lot and Molinaro defended better than Chiellini and Legro.
As for his crosses...they aren't good, but why don't you ask yourselves why is he making so many crosses per match ? Is it because he runs the hell out of him and he has enough power to play defense-attack all the time ? Why none of our full backs is so much involved in attack ?
Blame Ranieri if you don't like what you see because it's Ranieri who should tell him to stop making crosses. Don't blame Molinaro.
Thats true. When he plays good, he should be given credits and not same dilemma. He is not the best thing we have in the team but we don't have many options like I said.

Thats also true, he played pretty good defensively, if just he can improve couple of things while attacking then things would look better.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,526
Moron-aro was better than his average game, he managed to avoid most of the Roma defenders and make minimum mistakes, the problem with his crosses is known and it is indeed CR's fault, he should forbid Molinaro to ever try a cross!
All in all it was an ok performance from Molinaro yesterday and probably his second best of the season, but thats mostly because Taddei sucked bad, when Roma fielded Giuly, Molinaro became Moron-aro again!
 

RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
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Yeah, I agree Molinaro didn't piss me off as much as usual yesterday. But Nocerino sure as hell did! Thank God for Ale!
But yet he was exposed badly in the 2nd half, especially when Juily steppen on the pitch...He was caight many times off the position...
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
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We had a decent performance and we won the 2nd team in italy(in the table).
Why do you still moaning?What more did you want in this game?
It doesn't matter. He could have played total football, outclassed Roma all game, won game 4-0 and people here would still moan and say how RUINERI is destroying Juventus by not playing the almighty Tiago.
 

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