Serie A: Juventus vs Empoli [October 31 2007] (16 Viewers)
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By that comment I am sure you saw the game and you also saw that Doni was either injured or feigning injury everytime a Milan player went near him. The 5 minutes was justified and frankly I am tired of hearing about conspiracy in this place.
Funny you did not mention the phantom penalty and subsequent red card awarded against them.
You dont hear them bitching about it either
We have a thread as childish as Collina vs Juventus meaning the refereeing board is against us when it was just 1 incompetent referee.
I have not seen anything of the Napoli game but by all accounts the decisions were terrible.
For a Juventus fan it is so easy to spout out that because there was no evidence to support our guilt , it means we are innocent but it is prudent to make a thread of young boys versus Juventus by bringing Michale Jackson into it when he was acquitted of those charges. Double standards, but why am i not surprised.
I dont think there is a conspiracy but I do think there is a more worrying trend which a lot if not everybody is overlooking.
In the eyes of the referees we are NOW A SMALL CLUB.
It has nothing to do with whether we have Moggi at oour disposal or not or how competent or otherwise our board is we are now treated as a small club.
Judging by posts on here, who can blame them, only small clubs come come up with conspiracy theories all the time.
Zalayeta dived! Boo hoo ! Is he the first to dive? Would he be the last?
You have Everton screaming this crap and they are a small club compared tot he other sides.
You start threads in september for a match against Inter, our own manager and board are talking up Inter match in August and you guys don't expect to be treated as a small club?
Maybe if he pushed our chests out and act in an arrogant manner we would be respected more
No we are looking at how many minutes is added to Milan's games like it matters.
Milan cannot win at home but we are still worrying about how many minutes, looking for conspiracies here there and everywhere
You hire a manager without a personality and I am not sure what you are expecting from referees
Our brand of football is piss poor and while that did not matter in the past because we were a big team, we cannot get away with boring everyone to death but trying to nick victories.
Only big sides do that
Juve sempre is made a fool out of for speaking his mind and some truth but unless you spout out conspiracy noone wants to listen
You have a small club mentality then you are treated like a small club. A small club would always get penalties awarded against them if they commit the slightest offence in the box.
But don't worry console yourself on the fact that Morratti is behind everything and name every thread on here with particular reference to him or better yet tell people who do not buy your horsehit theory of conspiracy to go support another club because as a true supporter the only thing to believe is that all the clubs in Italy have gathered to conspire against the mighty Juventus
Funny you did not mention the phantom penalty and subsequent red card awarded against them.
You dont hear them bitching about it either
We have a thread as childish as Collina vs Juventus meaning the refereeing board is against us when it was just 1 incompetent referee.
I have not seen anything of the Napoli game but by all accounts the decisions were terrible.
For a Juventus fan it is so easy to spout out that because there was no evidence to support our guilt , it means we are innocent but it is prudent to make a thread of young boys versus Juventus by bringing Michale Jackson into it when he was acquitted of those charges. Double standards, but why am i not surprised.
I dont think there is a conspiracy but I do think there is a more worrying trend which a lot if not everybody is overlooking.
In the eyes of the referees we are NOW A SMALL CLUB.
It has nothing to do with whether we have Moggi at oour disposal or not or how competent or otherwise our board is we are now treated as a small club.
Judging by posts on here, who can blame them, only small clubs come come up with conspiracy theories all the time.
Zalayeta dived! Boo hoo ! Is he the first to dive? Would he be the last?
You have Everton screaming this crap and they are a small club compared tot he other sides.
You start threads in september for a match against Inter, our own manager and board are talking up Inter match in August and you guys don't expect to be treated as a small club?
Maybe if he pushed our chests out and act in an arrogant manner we would be respected more
No we are looking at how many minutes is added to Milan's games like it matters.
Milan cannot win at home but we are still worrying about how many minutes, looking for conspiracies here there and everywhere
You hire a manager without a personality and I am not sure what you are expecting from referees
Our brand of football is piss poor and while that did not matter in the past because we were a big team, we cannot get away with boring everyone to death but trying to nick victories.
Only big sides do that
Juve sempre is made a fool out of for speaking his mind and some truth but unless you spout out conspiracy noone wants to listen
You have a small club mentality then you are treated like a small club. A small club would always get penalties awarded against them if they commit the slightest offence in the box.
But don't worry console yourself on the fact that Morratti is behind everything and name every thread on here with particular reference to him or better yet tell people who do not buy your horsehit theory of conspiracy to go support another club because as a true supporter the only thing to believe is that all the clubs in Italy have gathered to conspire against the mighty Juventus
It´s nice to see that Collina reacted. It is a proper ban as well. I mean, it is not fair to ban him for eternity just because of one match. I hope not to see this kind of terrible referee performances again. It was so obvious that Bergonzi doesn´t like Juve. Will this prevent these kind of things in the future, we´ll see.
Thank u very much for this post
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I always disagree with 90% of ur posts but at least ur not a blinded supporter like 99% of the people here.
I want evryone to read this post & understand it.
Yes we r a small Club now becoz we have a small Board,small manager & most of all Blinded supporters who through every mistake on conspiracies.
I hope the players are not thinking like the supporters coz if they r,we will play terribly gainst Empoli & Inter.
The Napoli's match was terrible,we lost becoz of the referee but how many teams in the world in every single league have lost about stupid decisions even more stupid than this.
We had more stupid decisions for our side in the past & when other teams complained,we were lauphing like hell.
To be honest after reading what I wrote on Napoli's thread,I think I was mistaken by saying that we deserve to feel once what other teams felt becoz of us in the past.Coz if someone else said this stuff,I would've been furious.
That said I support 100% all that I said after this 7 I pitty the people who say that they miss Moggi & I also pitty the peole who through everything on conspiracies against Juve.
Can u imagine that some of them made fun of the fact that I want Tiago to play just coz they didnt agree with my posts.
P.S:I think Roma's penalty was the right decision.
!!I always disagree with 90% of ur posts but at least ur not a blinded supporter like 99% of the people here.
I want evryone to read this post & understand it.
Yes we r a small Club now becoz we have a small Board,small manager & most of all Blinded supporters who through every mistake on conspiracies.
I hope the players are not thinking like the supporters coz if they r,we will play terribly gainst Empoli & Inter.
The Napoli's match was terrible,we lost becoz of the referee but how many teams in the world in every single league have lost about stupid decisions even more stupid than this.
We had more stupid decisions for our side in the past & when other teams complained,we were lauphing like hell.
To be honest after reading what I wrote on Napoli's thread,I think I was mistaken by saying that we deserve to feel once what other teams felt becoz of us in the past.Coz if someone else said this stuff,I would've been furious.
That said I support 100% all that I said after this 7 I pitty the people who say that they miss Moggi & I also pitty the peole who through everything on conspiracies against Juve.
Can u imagine that some of them made fun of the fact that I want Tiago to play just coz they didnt agree with my posts.
P.S:I think Roma's penalty was the right decision.
Referee From Napoli – Juve Banned For A Month
The referee from Saturday night’s hugely controversial clash between Napoli and Juventus at San Paolo has been banned for a month.
Mauro Bergonzi awarded two scandalous penalties to Napoli as the Partenopei ran out 3-1 winners.
The first spot-kick arrived on 62 minutes when the scores were still level at 1-1. Marcelo Zalayeta flicked the ball on to Ezequiel Lavezzi, who was cleanly tackled by Juve stopper Giorgio Chiellini, only for Bergonzi to award a penalty.
The second spot-kick came eight minutes later when Zalayeta blatantly dived over Gianluigi Buffon, only for Bergonzi to once again make an equally shocking decision.
Napoli captain Mauro Domizzi buried both penalties to send the Bianconeri hierarchy up in arms.
The Italian League’s referee designator, Pierluigi Collina, has decided to punish Bergonzi for his dreadful performance by banning him for the next month of Serie A games.
The disciplinary action is not over yet though and there are reports that video evidence may be used to penalise Zalayeta after the Uruguayan’s dive for the second penalty.
Respect
The referee from Saturday night’s hugely controversial clash between Napoli and Juventus at San Paolo has been banned for a month.
Mauro Bergonzi awarded two scandalous penalties to Napoli as the Partenopei ran out 3-1 winners.
The first spot-kick arrived on 62 minutes when the scores were still level at 1-1. Marcelo Zalayeta flicked the ball on to Ezequiel Lavezzi, who was cleanly tackled by Juve stopper Giorgio Chiellini, only for Bergonzi to award a penalty.
The second spot-kick came eight minutes later when Zalayeta blatantly dived over Gianluigi Buffon, only for Bergonzi to once again make an equally shocking decision.
Napoli captain Mauro Domizzi buried both penalties to send the Bianconeri hierarchy up in arms.
The Italian League’s referee designator, Pierluigi Collina, has decided to punish Bergonzi for his dreadful performance by banning him for the next month of Serie A games.
The disciplinary action is not over yet though and there are reports that video evidence may be used to penalise Zalayeta after the Uruguayan’s dive for the second penalty.
Respect
ok true, i ignored the penalty and red card, but its just because i am accustomed to complaining every week about milan getting 5 mins added time.
the milan games i have seen this season: vs. siena, vs. parma, vs. palermo, vs. lazio, vs. empoli & vs. roma.
the games vs. siena, parma, palermo and empoli were all games that they were either losing or drawing by 90 minutes and in all of them 5 mins were added. in the siena game, nesta equalised and in the palermo game, miccoli scored palermo's winner.
the game vs. lazio they drubbed them 5-1 and they didn't need or get 5 mins, and the roma game, well you already explained that one.
does everyone remember the season before we were relegated when played away to cagliari? we drew the game 1-1, with a last grasp equaliser from cannavaro off of a corner 5 mins into added time. i remember that game clearly because i watching it with friends that instantly accused juve of cheating, despite them not knowing a thing about serie a. in that game, the 5 mins was clearly justified because the match stats showed over 40 fouls, plus there was a wrongful penalty called against juve where zambrotta cleanly tackled the player and they converted it.
the point is that people are just accustomed to hearing that juve are cheats because of the media or word of mouth even if they have no idea what the hell goes on serie a.
the milan games i have seen this season: vs. siena, vs. parma, vs. palermo, vs. lazio, vs. empoli & vs. roma.
the games vs. siena, parma, palermo and empoli were all games that they were either losing or drawing by 90 minutes and in all of them 5 mins were added. in the siena game, nesta equalised and in the palermo game, miccoli scored palermo's winner.
the game vs. lazio they drubbed them 5-1 and they didn't need or get 5 mins, and the roma game, well you already explained that one.
does everyone remember the season before we were relegated when played away to cagliari? we drew the game 1-1, with a last grasp equaliser from cannavaro off of a corner 5 mins into added time. i remember that game clearly because i watching it with friends that instantly accused juve of cheating, despite them not knowing a thing about serie a. in that game, the 5 mins was clearly justified because the match stats showed over 40 fouls, plus there was a wrongful penalty called against juve where zambrotta cleanly tackled the player and they converted it.
the point is that people are just accustomed to hearing that juve are cheats because of the media or word of mouth even if they have no idea what the hell goes on serie a.
& thats what people always say about BIG TEAMS.
We were the Kings of Serie a,we were dominating everything in Italy.
But Now our board & especially our supporters are making us look like a Small Club by realting everything to conspiracies & bitching about Milan gettin 5 min. of added time.
Just look at how people are discussing that if any of our players got a 4th yellow card or a red card in the Empoli match,it will be all made by Mr.Moratti the head of the''lets fuck Juve compaign''.
We were the Kings of Serie a,we were dominating everything in Italy.
But Now our board & especially our supporters are making us look like a Small Club by realting everything to conspiracies & bitching about Milan gettin 5 min. of added time.
Just look at how people are discussing that if any of our players got a 4th yellow card or a red card in the Empoli match,it will be all made by Mr.Moratti the head of the''lets fuck Juve compaign''.
Sorry for going off topic and i hope this will be the last OT post in this thread.
But this part of Denco's post is so wrong :
Where did you get this from, Denco ?
Milan are the biggest cry babies in Italian football. They can't stop bitching for 4 years already. They were bitching how we're stealing scudettos from them two years in a row, last year they were bitching how the world is against them and how they were so innocent that the -8 pts deduction was the greatest scandal of all time and this year they can't stop bitching although all the statistics say they've been the most favoured team in serie A. Only last week Galliani was bitching how the refs cost them at least 6 points this season. They moan about every single 50-50 call that didn't go in their favour (and there aren't many of these) but this time they didn't moan because it was a clear penalty. It couldn't have been more clear.
Ambrosini almost ripped off De Rossi's jersey and stopped him from reaching the ball and shooting from 3 metres. I can't believe someone is doubting this decision to give Roma a penalty.
And since Ambrosini had a yellow already he got his second yellow for this penalty faul. Minutes before the end Seedorf had a butchering tackle and the ref gave him only yellow (everybody in Domenica Sportiva said it should have been a straight red card)
If Milan aren't bitching about a call against them, then You can all be 100% sure it was a correct call.
But this part of Denco's post is so wrong :
Where did you get this from, Denco ?
Milan are the biggest cry babies in Italian football. They can't stop bitching for 4 years already. They were bitching how we're stealing scudettos from them two years in a row, last year they were bitching how the world is against them and how they were so innocent that the -8 pts deduction was the greatest scandal of all time and this year they can't stop bitching although all the statistics say they've been the most favoured team in serie A. Only last week Galliani was bitching how the refs cost them at least 6 points this season. They moan about every single 50-50 call that didn't go in their favour (and there aren't many of these) but this time they didn't moan because it was a clear penalty. It couldn't have been more clear.
Ambrosini almost ripped off De Rossi's jersey and stopped him from reaching the ball and shooting from 3 metres. I can't believe someone is doubting this decision to give Roma a penalty.
And since Ambrosini had a yellow already he got his second yellow for this penalty faul. Minutes before the end Seedorf had a butchering tackle and the ref gave him only yellow (everybody in Domenica Sportiva said it should have been a straight red card)
If Milan aren't bitching about a call against them, then You can all be 100% sure it was a correct call.
Yesterday´s game officiating = a big
Penalty was clear as a sun, red card for Ambrosini was justified. Good to see such a good performance by an Italian ref. BTW I think Serie A is full of incompetent referees and banning Bergonzi won´t solve anything. Something else has to be done here. However, it is nice to see that Juventus voices are heard.
Penalty was clear as a sun, red card for Ambrosini was justified. Good to see such a good performance by an Italian ref. BTW I think Serie A is full of incompetent referees and banning Bergonzi won´t solve anything. Something else has to be done here. However, it is nice to see that Juventus voices are heard.