[Serie A] JUVENTUS 3-3 Grygera (March 14th 2010) (5 Viewers)

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Delle Alpi

Chemical Dean
May 26, 2009
8,679
Let's not put all the eggs in greygera's basket. The guy is a horrible player and still getting playing time. If I was a bad a player but a team like Juve decided to buy me let alone starting in the first 11, I wouldn't say no. Our problem is in the system. We have no flavor out there on the pitch, no identity. The defense get exposed as usual, and it's so easy to overlap our backs and go around them. We need to seriously invest in the backline and stop wasting the money on average CM. Also the management should be held accountable for all the problems we have, because in the end they are the ones who made the decisions. A lot of stupid decisions and wasting the club's money on average players that don't deserve to wear the black and white. A management that decided to loan Ariado and only have 3 CB left, that when a CB is needed we have to go with greygera.
It's obvious to a blind person that Blanc and Secco are incompetent, and have no idea on what they are doing, so if somebody need to take most of the blame then it's John Elkan for hiring such management and for keeping them around for such a long time. John need to take action by saving the club from this managment. Next summer we are going to get alot of average players with the budget, then get 3 or 4 crappy defenders for free/loan, and the two experts Blanc/Secco will come as usual to tell/fool us how this juve is capable of winning Serie A & Championsd league.
 

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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,976
Camo, Diego and Salihamidic did nothing when they entered the game. imaginge we need a win and we couldn't create a clean shot on goal.
We made one at 3:2. It was a great Camo cross and Del Piero had a free header from 1 meter. I think the keeper made a great save.
Also we had a very good counter attack but unfortunately Del Piero tried to dribble instead of passing to Trez who'd have had an open net.
And that was it. We failed to create another chance.

Actually, if you look at the number of chances created, we surely didn't deserve to win this match.
 
Jan 14, 2010
270
This team have serious issues and if by some miracle we get the 4th CL spot this team need a serious shake up. Melo, Amauri, Grygera, Grosso, Chimenti, Brazzo, Zebina etc need to get the hell out of Juventus
 

cimenk

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2008
3,129
I'm so glad that finally i can get to watch Juve matches on TV after last match i saw on TV was humiliation against Bayern. Missed 40 minutes of the game.. Now i want to throw all my stress into the post after this SHITTY draw

Saw the replay, and get fucking nightmare since the start of the second half.. Siena raped us, and Grygera is a ridiculous defender.. I must give him a credit giving away Siena 3 goals.. The first is the giving away pass, second he easily owned by Maccarone, and third when he stupidly tackle Maccarone calf (he should have do it smartly).. In 2 last games he already give opponents 4 goals (plus one goal against Palermo).. Seeing Chimenti, just like we don't have a goalkeeper in the match

We should have kill the game when the score 3-2 and there is several chances. DP is selfish in several occasions but i can't blame him though. And Camo subs is irrational, we need more muscle to defend when 3-2 up but we take away Marchi, i still don't get it.. And Camo not looked fit at all..

Melo is really anonymous in this match. Momo is also play so bad, his passing is so bad and his ball control, also sometimes ruin our build play. Candreva looks tired in 2nd half..

But one review that describe this match is Grygera..
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
That result is very difficult to digest. How we reacted to going 3-0 up was trully pathetic. At that score we should have absorbed their pressure muich better, but our midfield was pathetic at breaking down their play and our defence (if i can even call it that) was everywhere apart from where it should have been. Melo again showed that when the pressure is on he's off and we cant have someone like that in the centre of our midfield, so hopefully Wenger wants to try his hand with him...

Grygera, yes he was pathetic, trully pathetic, he may as well have not even been on the pitch, clearly at fault for all 3 goals and all their play went down Grygera's side. At half time it was obvious that they were getting all their success down the right, so what does Zac do to counter this? Takes off Marchisio and puts on Camo to sure up the right side.... Poor decision, and it cost us. Sali should have come on, no question and to replace MELO, not Marchisio (unless there was some kind of injury, which knowing us wouldn't surprise me). And Sali could have doubled up on Maccarone, who was clearly their dangerman and the MOM.

Trezeguet winds me up as well, he plays so high up the field that when you have 2 defensive minded central midfielders there is often about 3 players inbetween him and the midfielders, whats the point in a target man if you cant get the ball to him??

That was just a catalogue of errors today. Makes me seriously question the intelligence and commitment of the people at this club. January has been and gone and we didn't even bother to sign a defender, instead we shipped one out. The trail of mistakes that we have made since calciopoli is simply endless
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,949
Let's not put all the eggs in greygera's basket. The guy is a horrible player and still getting playing time. If I was a bad a player but a team like Juve decided to buy me let alone starting in the first 11, I wouldn't say no. Our problem is in the system. We have no flavor out there on the pitch, no identity. The defense get exposed as usual, and it's so easy to overlap our backs and go around them. We need to seriously invest in the backline and stop wasting the money on average CM. Also the management should be held accountable for all the problems we have, because in the end they are the ones who made the decisions. A lot of stupid decisions and wasting the club's money on average players that don't deserve to wear the black and white. A management that decided to loan Ariado and only have 3 CB left, that when a CB is needed we have to go with greygera.
It's obvious to a blind person that Blanc and Secco are incompetent, and have no idea on what they are doing, so if somebody need to take most of the blame then it's John Elkan for hiring such management and for keeping them around for such a long time. John need to take action by saving the club from this managment. Next summer we are going to get alot of average players with the budget, then get 3 or 4 crappy defenders for free/loan, and the two experts Blanc/Secco will come as usual to tell/fool us how this juve is capable of winning Serie A & Championsd league.
If Grygera had a basket it would have holes in it and the eggs would smash on the floor.
 
Jan 13, 2010
11
What a disgrace!!!!! 3-0 up over the bottom team & still cant win!!!!! Then again what do you expect with a pensioner defense!! Why cant Zaccharoni start our best 11 available? He has Camoranesi, Iaquinta all on the bench for F*** sake!
 

cimenk

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2008
3,129
The coach made a mistake too, even though it was forced upon him.
Maccarone was killing our right side on counters. The last thing we needed to do was to give him even more space with Brazzo going in attack all the time.
I know that the Brazzo for Legro sub couldn't have been avoided, but when it was done, Zac should have at least told Brazzo not to sleep in attack and to defend his side.
Spot on Alen. The 2 goals their scored is from the right side. Especially in the third goal, where the fuck is our RB.. And in the 2nd goal too, there is no support from our midfield right to help Grygera attacking from the right or no help from the CB too.. When the Grygera blocking the outer side, other player need to cover when Maccarone made a cut back.. We really lack organizations in defence..

We have 2 DM that known for their defensive play (tackle and read the game).. but still there is no cover for our defense.. This is a joke
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,086
Marceℓℓo;2391164 said:
He's our 3rd goalkeeper in case you didn't know.In addition to that he's a pretty important character in our squad.
Isn't he like one of Gigi's best friends and thats basically why they brought him back?
 
Jan 14, 2010
270
Can anyone truely tell me they didn't see this coming??? this was classic Juve colapse; Shit RB giving away the 1st goal as he did against Palermo followed by allowing space and time for maccorone to have a clear shot on goal on a goalie who's already suppose to be collecting pention...yet he wasn't done he added the cherry on the cake by proceeding to concede a ridiculous penalty. that was when I knew we were either going to hold unto the draw or lose in the dying seconds Thank God it was the former.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
14,322
What a disgrace!!!!! 3-0 up over the bottom team & still cant win!!!!! Then again what do you expect with a pensioner defense!! Why cant Zaccharoni start our best 11 available? He has Camoranesi, Iaquinta all on the bench for F*** sake!
That was our best 11 available, apart from Diego.

Camo and Iaquinta have been injured and are not quite up to speed yet. In fact we were worse off with Camoranesi playing in the second half as he didn't defend and most attacks came down his side
 
Jan 14, 2010
270
Marceℓℓo;2391164 said:
He's our 3rd goalkeeper in case you didn't know.In addition to that he's a pretty important character in our squad.
Yeah I know he's our 3rd keeper but why? suppose Gigi and Manninger is both out for a period of time this is what we'll have to put up with?
 

Marceℓℓo

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2007
7,242
Isn't he like one of Gigi's best friends and thats basically why they brought him back?
Yup,Gigi and him are really good friends but he's generally an important character within the squad from what I've heard.

Yeah I know he's our 3rd keeper but why? suppose Gigi and Manninger is both out for a period of time this what we'll have to put up with?
Who do you suggest as our 3rd keeper?Frey?
 

cimenk

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2008
3,129
This result remind me Juve-Torino game in the past when we already lead 3-0 and then Torino chase and drew us 3-3 and we blew the last minute penalty taken by Salas
 

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