This reminds me of my son, when he’s crying I try to cheer him up with a candy. Than he’s crying and smiling at the same time. Pirlo did the same to me today.
Pirlo mentiones defending with 4 and attacking with only 3 at the back. I bet it looks similar to a 4-4-2 in defense with cuads pushing high on offense and Frabotta coming into the midfield