[Serie A] JUVENTUS 1-3 Calciopoli Directors (3rd Nov 2012) (33 Viewers)

Man of the Match - Juve vs Sphincter

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Boksic

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I would be happy for Matri to get a chance, I think we lack a presence up front.

But whoever we go for they have to get given a run, none of these changes each game.

Stick with Mirko and play one of Matri/Bendtner/Quag. I think Gio has to be a sub for Mirko not with him.
 
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I would be happy for Matri to get a chance, I think we lack a presence up front.

But whoever we go for they have to get given a run, none of these changes each game.

Stick with Mirko and play one of Matri/Bendtner/Quag. I think Gio has to be a sub for Mirko not with him.
No more Quags and Bendtner play Matri, he hasnt played and Idk why Bendtner is playing ahead of Matri , i dont see anyhting good that he has done. All he has done is lose possession
 

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433 needs to be used going forward with these as the front 3:

Isla(Pepe)-Matri(Bendtner)-vucinic(giovinco)

People will have to just bitch and moan about one of their favorite mids not starting, be it Asamoah, Marchisio, or Vidal.

We simply have he best possible players for a 433, not 352 IMO

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No more Quags and Bendtner play Matri, he hasnt played and Idk why Bendtner is playing ahead of Matri , i dont see anyhting good that he has done. All he has done is lose possession
Actually Bendtner holds onto the ball a bit better and his strength serves him well.
 
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433 needs to be used going forward with these as the front 3:

Isla(Pepe)-Matri(Bendtner)-vucinic(giovinco)

People will have to just bitch and moan about one of their favorite mids not starting, be it Asamoah, Marchisio, or Vidal.

We simply have he best possible players for a 433, not 352 IMO

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Actually Bendtner holds onto the ball a bit better and his strength serves him well.
Yes he holds possession but he isnt playing as a cf, hes dont really taking alot of shots and stuff, and when played alongside giovinco, he never gets the ball because giovinco is always trying to everything by himself. And i agree with the 4-3-3
 

Boksic

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No more Quags and Bendtner play Matri, he hasnt played and Idk why Bendtner is playing ahead of Matri , i dont see anyhting good that he has done. All he has done is lose possession
Think Bendtner has looked decent so far (not last night) but just looks a yard off the pace, which I guess we are hoping will come with match fitness.

I admit I like Matri and think he has played well this season when he has featured. But whoever we go for we need to give them faith, strikers thrive on confidence/finding a rhythm and they aren't going to get that if we keep changing them.
 

Hust

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Yes he holds possession but he isnt playing as a cf, hes dont really taking alot of shots and stuff, and when played alongside giovinco, he never gets the ball because giovinco is always trying to everything by himself. And i agree with the 4-3-3
Stick Gio or Mirko out on the left and give them the chance to cut in like we all know they are better at in a 433, and whoever is our CF will benefit...same goes for Isla and yes, we all know what Pepe can do.
 
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Think Bendtner has looked decent so far (not last night) but just looks a yard off the pace, which I guess we are hoping will come with match fitness.

I admit I like Matri and think he has played well this season when he has featured. But whoever we go for we need to give them faith, strikers thrive on confidence/finding a rhythm and they aren't going to get that if we keep changing them.
Conte is really pissing me off, the team hasnt been convincing and plays nothing like last year, last year the games were enjoyable even if we tied so many games

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Stick Gio or Mirko out on the left and give them the chance to cut in like we all know they are better at in a 433, and whoever is our CF will benefit...same goes for Isla and yes, we all know what Pepe can do.
I miss pepe
 

Hust

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I'm starting to miss him too, especially since we don't appear to be using Isla this year despite buying him.
 

Boksic

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Conte is really pissing me off, the team hasnt been convincing and plays nothing like last year, last year the games were enjoyable even if we tied so many games
Last year we had Conte standing on the touchline shouting for 90mins and we were still an unknown team in terms of playing style. It was always going to be harder this season, especially with the ban.
 
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I'm starting to miss him too, especially since we don't appear to be using Isla this year despite buying him.
IF we played a 4-3-3 we could use both Lichtsteiner and Pepe/Isla. I loved when Lichtsteiner would make those overlapping runs, amazing

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Last year we had Conte standing on the touchline shouting for 90mins and we were still an unknown team in terms of playing style. It was always going to be harder this season, especially with the ban.
that could be it but i hate the formation
 

Hust

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Last year we had Conte standing on the touchline shouting for 90mins and we were still an unknown team in terms of playing style. It was always going to be harder this season, especially with the ban.
I think our stubbornness to keep using the 352 is killing us, whereas when we revert back to the 433 we dominate so much more easily.

I like that we can switch, but we aren't doing it this year and its becoming rather frustrating. I hope they give the 433 a run of a few games and see what works.

My fear is without a strong lead at the top of the table now, Conte will be afraid to try anything different.

I want licht back to a RB and Chiellini to the LB...Chiellini can cause a lot of problems with his surging runs forward. Licht is useless as a RWB.
 

Boksic

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I think our stubbornness to keep using the 352 is killing us, whereas when we revert back to the 433 we dominate so much more easily.

I like that we can switch, but we aren't doing it this year and its becoming rather frustrating. I hope they give the 433 a run of a few games and see what works.

My fear is without a strong lead at the top of the table now, Conte will be afraid to try anything different.

I want licht back to a RB and Chiellini to the LB...Chiellini can cause a lot of problems with his surging runs forward. Licht is useless as a RWB.
:agree:

I loved our flexibility last season, even during matches we would change and that made if difficult for the opposition. We have become somewhat predictable on a formation which we didn't play as well with last season.

My only worry is that our signings all seem geared for 3-5-2.

Who would you go for? I don't particularly like Chiellini going forward at LB, but do not trust De Ceglie defensively. What about the wingers? Mirko and Isla? Gio and Pepe?

Would we just rotate Asamoah in the middle?
 
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:agree:

I loved our flexibility last season, even during matches we would change and that made if difficult for the opposition. We have become somewhat predictable on a formation which we didn't play as well with last season.

My only worry is that our signings all seem geared for 3-5-2.

Who would you go for? I don't particularly like Chiellini going forward at LB, but do not trust De Ceglie defensively. What about the wingers? Mirko and Isla? Gio and Pepe?

Would we just rotate Asamoah in the middle?
Buffon
Licht-Barzagli-Bonucci/Chiellini-Caceres/Chiellini
Marchisio-Pirlo-Vidal/Pogba
Pepe/Isla-Matri-Gio/Vucinic

Yes Asamoah as rotation and I hate de ceglie and he should be benched for life as a juve player
 

Hust

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:agree:

I loved our flexibility last season, even during matches we would change and that made if difficult for the opposition. We have become somewhat predictable on a formation which we didn't play as well with last season.

My only worry is that our signings all seem geared for 3-5-2.

Who would you go for? I don't particularly like Chiellini going forward at LB, but do not trust De Ceglie defensively. What about the wingers? Mirko and Isla? Gio and Pepe?

Would we just rotate Asamoah in the middle?
I think right now Conte is trying to give everyone equal playing time or at least a fair shot, which is admirable and I think using the 352 allows him to get more players involved more often, even if it isn't our "better" formation.

For the 433 I'd use this, providing no injuries or suspensions:

Buffon
Licht-Barzagli-Bonucci-Chiellini
Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio
Isla-Matri-Vucinic

I know everyone loves Asamoah & Pogba, as well as Marrone...I'd say rotate them in that order which is quite easily. All 3 can pretty much deputize for Vidal, Pirlo or Marchisio.

AND, its no coincidence that people are waiting for the "last seasons Vidal", and the same goes for Marchisio.

We really need to go back to the 433 because our midfield is just that damn good with it. Marchisio scored with ease last year and Vidal made a name for himself in Italy last year with that formation.

Chiellini? I'd rather have his defensive solidarity at the back as a LB than DC even though his runs forward can leave us compromised at times. Chiellini at LB is definitely more to a benefit for us that DC. Bonucci and Barzagli have a great partnership going, why disrupt that?
 
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Ok, but why do you love him so much? :D
Because last year he was the only player that was able to score, until conte favored borriello

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I think right now Conte is trying to give everyone equal playing time or at least a fair shot, which is admirable and I think using the 352 allows him to get more players involved more often, even if it isn't our "better" formation.

For the 433 I'd use this, providing no injuries or suspensions:

Buffon
Licht-Barzagli-Bonucci-Chiellini
Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio
Isla-Matri-Vucinic

I know everyone loves Asamoah & Pogba, as well as Marrone...I'd say rotate them in that order which is quite easily. All 3 can pretty much deputize for Vidal, Pirlo or Marchisio.

AND, its no coincidence that people are waiting for the "last seasons Vidal", and the same goes for Marchisio.

We really need to go back to the 433 because our midfield is just that damn good with it. Marchisio scored with ease last year and Vidal made a name for himself in Italy last year with that formation.

Chiellini? I'd rather have his defensive solidarity at the back as a LB than DC even though his runs forward can leave us compromised at times. Chiellini at LB is definitely more to a benefit for us that DC. Bonucci and Barzagli have a great partnership going, why disrupt that?
I would change isla for pepe but overall i totally agree
 
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