[Serie A] Juventus 1-0 Udinese, Nov 22nd, 2009 (11 Viewers)
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I actually hope he plays the 4-2-3-1. The 4-3-1-2 was tried and it failed even with Del Piero and a change back may force us to drop good players (Giovinco and Camo). It also lacks creative support for Diego and he'll only get beaten up by markers again. With Camo and Gio running down the wings not only was the offensive pressure spread more evenly but Diego was able to do his job by spreading the ball and make a variety of plays to keep the opposition guessing.
The current formation harbours all our best players and plays to all their strengths bar one exception..Del Piero. I'll be fucked if we're going to compromise the over all well being of the team for one player. People on here complain about Ciro's bad job as a coach, but its ok to go back to the obviously wrong formation for the team because god needs the formation which suits him best. For Ferrara to return to our failed tactics would be a blatant and unacceptable coaching error. Ciro needs to at least meet half way and play a 4-3-2-1 or a 4-2-2-2.
Camo - Momo - Melo
---Diego - Del Piero
-----Amauri/trez
(our right side would be fragile but potent)
or
-----Momo - Melo
Diego --------- Giovinco
---Amauri - Del Piero
(No camo
)
The current formation harbours all our best players and plays to all their strengths bar one exception..Del Piero. I'll be fucked if we're going to compromise the over all well being of the team for one player. People on here complain about Ciro's bad job as a coach, but its ok to go back to the obviously wrong formation for the team because god needs the formation which suits him best. For Ferrara to return to our failed tactics would be a blatant and unacceptable coaching error. Ciro needs to at least meet half way and play a 4-3-2-1 or a 4-2-2-2.
Camo - Momo - Melo
---Diego - Del Piero
-----Amauri/trez
(our right side would be fragile but potent)
or
-----Momo - Melo
Diego --------- Giovinco
---Amauri - Del Piero
(No camo
)
People need to stop obsessing about exact formations.
As Ferrara has shown with the 4-2-3-1 and, to a lesser extent, the 4-3-1-2, he is willing to give players some freedom within their role.
This means you could have some sort of in between sort of formation with players not really occupying orthodox positions.
For example:
Something in between a 4-2-3-1 and a 4-3-1-2.
I'm not saying this would necessarily work, all I'm saying is that people should not just be thinking in terms of standard formations all the time, as we have some very intelligent players who can adjust and play slightly different roles to make a system work.
As Ferrara has shown with the 4-2-3-1 and, to a lesser extent, the 4-3-1-2, he is willing to give players some freedom within their role.
This means you could have some sort of in between sort of formation with players not really occupying orthodox positions.
For example:
Buffon
Caceres-Cannavaro-Chiellini-Grosso
Sissoko----Melo
Camoranesi-----Diego--------------
--------------Trezeguet-------Del Piero
Caceres-Cannavaro-Chiellini-Grosso
Sissoko----Melo
Camoranesi-----Diego--------------
--------------Trezeguet-------Del Piero
Something in between a 4-2-3-1 and a 4-3-1-2.
I'm not saying this would necessarily work, all I'm saying is that people should not just be thinking in terms of standard formations all the time, as we have some very intelligent players who can adjust and play slightly different roles to make a system work.
Yeah, if you had to label it, it would be considered a lop-sided 4-2-2-2.
Any formation is going to take time to adjust to, and Del Piero returning is going to change things, whether it is the 4-2-3-1 or the 4-3-1-2 that is adjusted for him.
And even if the system is not adjusted, the style of play almost certainly will because he isn't going to interpret a position in the same way as any of the forwards he may replace in the side.
What I'm trying to say is that some people seem to be far too simplistic when considering what sytem/playing style ought to be used in any given game.
Any formation is going to take time to adjust to, and Del Piero returning is going to change things, whether it is the 4-2-3-1 or the 4-3-1-2 that is adjusted for him.
And even if the system is not adjusted, the style of play almost certainly will because he isn't going to interpret a position in the same way as any of the forwards he may replace in the side.
What I'm trying to say is that some people seem to be far too simplistic when considering what sytem/playing style ought to be used in any given game.
But that's the thing. DP himself will have to make changes to the way he plays and adjust. Especially if we play one strikers and he's playing in the trio or a partnership with Diego.
If we did end up playing the 3-1-2 DP would be forced to sit back to help out Diego so really a 3-2-1 is unavoidable if you think about it.
If we did end up playing the 3-1-2 DP would be forced to sit back to help out Diego so really a 3-2-1 is unavoidable if you think about it.
LoL...
no matter what I say its wrong when its about your beloved Del Piero!..
We should just play
Now your happy
no matter what I say its wrong when its about your beloved Del Piero!..
We should just play
Ale
Del Piero - Del Piero - Del Piero - Del Piero
Ale - Ale - Ale
DP
Del Piero - Del Piero
Del Piero - Del Piero - Del Piero - Del Piero
Ale - Ale - Ale
DP
Del Piero - Del Piero
Now your happy
I gave my reasons on why it wouldn't harm playing with two upfront and you reply back saying "What if Del Piero gets injured again"....
But I'll get to your standard and argue on the same level, probably this way you'll be capable to argue...
What if Tiago is wearing a thong, shall we play with a trident upfront? 4-3-1-2 will NOT work, because CAMORANESI is one awful player, he can play ONLY when we play 4-2-3-1.
You say it's about Del Piero, I say it's about your brain.
I'm with you on that one aswell, since I don't quite see the issue with playing a 4-2-3-1 with DP. He can easily just play a bit further forward if he likes, so he's in between being a second striker and an attacking mid. Why don't we just try this first to see if it works? We've got DP back and use our goal-machine-formation.
Like Red said aswell, otherwise you just make Camo drop back a bit more and there you go.. it's a 4-3-1-2.
The issue isn't as big as it may seem I think.
Like Red said aswell, otherwise you just make Camo drop back a bit more and there you go.. it's a 4-3-1-2.
The issue isn't as big as it may seem I think.
Certainly true, and I would give the lop-sided 4-2-2-2 a chance once Alex comes back. With Sissoko back in midfield we can afford to allow DP more freedom on the left up top, which is where he likes to hover anyway.
That's not exactly how we played that season though. DP wasn't used as an attacking midfielder, but rather his usual support forward role left of Trezeguet.
When Alex has been used as a attacking midfielder instead of just being given a free role up top, he hasn't excelled.
that's as close as you'll ever get, BITCH!
