[Serie A] JUVENTUS 1-0 Roma [December 23rd 2017] (5 Viewers)

[Hust]

Except Higuaín's chances , the rest were half chances only because a guy of Higuaín's calibre should be finishing those chances. We need to make a distinction between clear cut chances and half chances. In Higuaín's case, he just had to shoot accurately at goal and he failed.

We had 22 shots today. Converted 1. lol 4% conversion

 

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[zizinho]

This past month

we beat roma, napoli and olympiakos

drew with merda and barcelona

and all clean sheets

#Perspective

and Benatia started in all those i think

#moroccanmalaise

 

[Mark]

Spoiler

:sarcasm:

silent VAR said no.

 

[Juventus 1897]

Fantastic save for Szczesny on the last action, absolutely saved us tonight, we were pretty lucky, but you need luck also to succeed sometimes, even that Schick 's finish wasn't impressive at all, radja must be incredibly angry now , third game in a row we win 1-0 against Roma at home, the way we did it now it's even sweeter, 7/7 also on juventus stadium against them.As it stands now we will probably have napoli as title contender, Roma,Lazio and inter are probably going to fight for champions league spots.

 

[Post Ironic]

So what do you call the total collapse in the last ten minutes?

Nerve wracking and obnoxious. That's what happens against good teams when you don't finish chances. This wasn't a game where we finished the single chance we got. We smashed Roma for 80 minutes, controlled the game completely, and if our forwards pulled their heads out of their asses, we would have been up 3-0 or thereabouts. When that doesn't happen it gives the other team the opportunity to throw everything at us for the last 10 minutes to play for the draw. Nerves creep in as our players clearly still need to work on mentality.

What do you call the first 80 minutes that we utterly dominated?

 

[X Æ A-12]

It won't.

I want to watch Dybala play football too, but he's the unfortunate victim of our (successful) attempts to fix the main problem. Since we did fix the main problem and we kept a clean sheet against Barcelona, Inter, Napoli, Roma and 4 other teams, we won't switch to another formation. In Juventus it will always be about not conceding before scoring 2, 3 or 4 goals. We are not conceding and we don't give away chances because our midfield trio and the wide players are doing an amazing defensive job. It's frustrating that Dybala has to be the victim, but it's pleasing to win matches and it's really hard to argue against this 4-3-3. I bet Allegri did not make this choice so easy and I think that, as much as he is happy to be winning without conceding, he is also frustrated that he has to bench Dybala.

Took balls to bench Dybala but it is totally the right decision to put team over the player

 

[Hust]

It won't.

I want to watch Dybala play football too, but he's the unfortunate victim of our (successful) attempts to fix the main problem. Since we did fix the main problem and we kept a clean sheet against Barcelona, Inter, Napoli, Roma and 4 other teams, we won't switch to another formation. In Juventus it will always be about not conceding before scoring 2, 3 or 4 goals. We are not conceding and we don't give away chances because our midfield trio and the wide players are doing an amazing defensive job. It's frustrating that Dybala has to be the victim, but it's pleasing to win matches and it's really hard to argue against this 4-3-3. I bet Allegri did not make this choice so easy and I think that, as much as he is happy to be winning without conceding, he is also frustrated that he has to bench Dybala.

433 has for some time now the way to go. Winning/not conceding is the way forward. People should start getting used to Dybala playing less.

 

[zizinho]

Spoiler

:sarcasm:

thanks for that

so was it a PK? my sopcast started lagging exactly as that incident was happening

 

[Hust]

Nerve wracking and obnoxious. That's what happens against good teams when you don't finish chances. This wasn't a game where we finished the single chance we got. We smashed Roma for 80 minutes, controlled the game completely, and if our forwards pulled their heads out of their asses, we would have been up 3-0 or thereabouts. When that doesn't happen it gives the other team the opportunity to throw everything at us for the last 10 minutes to play for the draw. Nerves creep in as our players clearly still need to work on mentality.

What do you call the first 80 minutes that we utterly dominated?

lol we had 22 shots

crazy

 

[Fr3sh]

TS:
Szczesny, Benatia, Pjanic
From losing Romans
To winning Juventini

::

 

[Post Ironic]

Except Higuaín's chances , the rest were half chances only because a guy of Higuaín's calibre should be finishing those chances. We need to make a distinction between clear cut chances and half chances. In Higuaín's case, he just had to shoot accurately at goal and he failed.

Khedira's chance wasn't a half chance. Mandzu had a pretty damn good chance too.

All of them were clear cut chances, but I will agree that only Higgy's and Khedira's were the type that should be scored 90% of the time.

 

[JCK]

Roma went all in, subs and nervousness.

Well if teams go all in against us and we react in this manner then it is really worrying. Or it explains how we lost in Cardiff.

 

[Cerval]

It won't.

I want to watch Dybala play football too, but he's the unfortunate victim of our (successful) attempts to fix the main problem. Since we did fix the main problem and we kept a clean sheet against Barcelona, Inter, Napoli, Roma and 4 other teams, we won't switch to another formation. In Juventus it will always be about not conceding before scoring 2, 3 or 4 goals. We are not conceding and we don't give away chances because our midfield trio and the wide players are doing an amazing defensive job. It's frustrating that Dybala has to be the victim, but it's pleasing to win matches and it's really hard to argue against this 4-3-3. I bet Allegri did not make this choice so easy and I think that, as much as he is happy to be winning without conceding, he is also frustrated that he has to bench Dybala.

433 has for some time now the way to go. Winning/not conceding is the way forward. People should start getting used to Dybala playing less.

Higuain should play less eventually. Dybala should start as the #9 when he'll be completely on top of his game

 

[zizinho]

We had 22 shots today. Converted 1. lol 4% conversion

and if we take out that Higuains conversion rate of 40%, imagine how much that is for the rest of the team...

 

[JCK]

Nerve wracking and obnoxious. That's what happens against good teams when you don't finish chances. This wasn't a game where we finished the single chance we got. We smashed Roma for 80 minutes, controlled the game completely, and if our forwards pulled their heads out of their asses, we would have been up 3-0 or thereabouts. When that doesn't happen it gives the other team the opportunity to throw everything at us for the last 10 minutes to play for the draw. Nerves creep in as our players clearly still need to work on mentality.

What do you call the first 80 minutes that we utterly dominated?

They were great without a doubt and we should have been more than 1 goal up but we didn't. Look at how we handled Napoli, they were going to play 900 minutes and not score, Roma were on the verge of scoring and we got lucky as well as Szczesny was brilliant.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Except Higuaín's chances , the rest were half chances only because a guy of Higuaín's calibre should be finishing those chances. We need to make a distinction between clear cut chances and half chances. In Higuaín's case, he just had to shoot accurately at goal and he failed.

Dude. The "half chances" we created is down to bad attacking play and nothing else. We had so many great opportunities to create big chances it's ridiculous. That's what you should worry about, but not the game. We were the much better team a part the last 15 minutes.

 

[zizinho]

Took balls to bench Dybala but it is totally the right decision to put team over the player

how much balls would it take to bench Gerardo and start the better player?

 

[CAPITANO]

thanks for that

so was it a PK? my sopcast started lagging exactly as that incident was happening

The experts On TV said it was and they also said that Benatia goal should Of been ruled Out because Of a foul

 

[Post Ironic]

Well if teams go all in against us and we react in this manner then it is really worrying. Or it explains how we lost in Cardiff.

It is worrying. But most teams deal with this issue more or less when they miss as many chances as we do today and end up at 1-0 with 10 minutes left. It's probably incredibly frustrating as a player to dominate like that and end up in a nail biter anyways.

I still think this team lacks something in terms of mentality. Probably in part due to the high turnover in transfer windows, and perhaps something to do with Allegri's methods of motivation. Who really knows the reason though.

 

[Hust]

Khedira's chance wasn't a half chance. Mandzu had a pretty damn good chance too.

All of them were clear cut chances, but I will agree that only Higgy's and Khedira's were the type that should be scored 90% of the time.

Matuidi had that shot on goal when he got injured. Almost from the same spot as his first goal.