[Serie A] JUVENTUS 0-2 Palermo (Feb. 28th 2010) (5 Viewers)

[Mike-e-y]

The even more depressing thing about this result is that they have 3 players in their team that we sold to them that would be very useful for us: Miccoli, Nocerino and Balzaretti.

I was always against the sale of Miccoli, he's such a tricky, dangerous player. Its no surprise he dicks on us every time he plays us

 

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[Alen]

We have only 1 single chance to save this season. Lots of things need to go in our favor for that:

- We need Camoranesi and Giovinco injury free and we need to play with wingers. If it's 4-4-2 then bench Diego. Yes, he might be the best Juve player this season, but it says too little. Sometimes you need to sacrifice the best for a greater good. Obviously we can't play without width.
- We need our 4th place rivals to lose a lot of points.
- We need to miraculously stop getting injured.

Chances for all this to happen are between 5 and 10%.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You're either pretending to be a prick or you are. Blaming Del Piero and making him the head of all this problem makes me sick.

Go find yourself something else to fucking do and stop blaming the man who fucking sweat day and night to fucking take us out of this deep shit.


If there's one single soul in this world that doesn't deserve this is Del Piero. If you think he's the problem then you're dumb.

I can't take this shit anymore..

+1. Though DP might not have been as brilliant and clinical in this match as his previous ones, blaming him for our situation is plain retarded.

 

[Klin]

Unless the club is being run by chimps who know nothing about football WHATSOEVER, how long can things stay like this?

Or should I not insult chimps by comparing them to our pathetic board?

If they remain here, let's say it will be long enough.

Valid point there.

 

[Mike-e-y]

We have only 1 single chance to save this season. Lots of things need to go in our favor for that:

- We need Camoranesi and Giovinco injury free and we need to play with wingers. If it's 4-4-2 then bench Diego. Yes, he might be the best Juve player this season, but it says too little. Sometimes you need to sacrifice the best for a greater good. Obviously we can't play without width.
- We need our 4th place rivals to lose a lot of points.
- We need to miraculously stop getting injured.

Chances for all this to happen are between 5 and 10%.

Spot on, unfortunately as you have rightly pointed out, it aint gonna happen....

Also we could REALLY REALLY do with Iaquinta back. He's the only striker that we have that fits into this 'unchangeable' 4-3-1-2 as he's the only one that bothers moving off the ball...

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

We have only 1 single chance to save this season. Lots of things need to go in our favor for that:

- We need Camoranesi and Giovinco injury free and we need to play with wingers. If it's 4-4-2 then bench Diego. Yes, he might be the best Juve player this season, but it says too little. Sometimes you need to sacrifice the best for a greater good. Obviously we can't play without width.
- We need our 4th place rivals to lose a lot of points.
- We need to miraculously stop getting injured.

Chances for all this to happen are between 5 and 10%.

No way that's going to happen. This season is lost. We can forget about the league and getting a decent place in it. Might was well aim to reach the quarter finals of the EL.

 

[tibike]

Its hardly worth mentioning that you had a stance a week ago that our success, in recent games, was due to the form of most in form player, for that period. I don't see the point in mentioning it...rather than as a childish I TOLD YOU SO...which is not supporting Juve, its supporting yourself.

I see how you might see it be childish, though I didn't mean it that way. What I meant is, that this match further supports the point that was made a week ago, and that it might add something to the current discussion. But yeah, maybe I should have been easier on the sarcasm.

The 6 games before this one, have been better than the 20 before...One horrible error from Grygera...other than which 0-1 against a team, in much better form than us, with a better coach, and a team used to playing together all season. 0-1 wouldn't have been a shock to the system. 0-2 isn't a large surprise either, given palermo are the first decent team we have played since Zach took over.

Ok we got done, again, at home...and played shit. But...we are not OUT of the race for fourth. 3 draws, 3 wins, and 1 loss...still ain't terrible.

Palermo isn't the first decent team we played, we played Genoa and Ajax as well. And we suffered against both, and we won both thanks to some moments of Del Piero's magic (see above). As I said, I'm not bashing Zac, I don't think this loss is his doing, just as the previous wins weren't his doing, but a combination of an in form Del Piero and the "honeymoon effect". He's more or less doing what everyone expected him to do.

 

[sylvester87]

You're either pretending to be a prick or you are. Blaming Del Piero and making him the head of all this problem makes me sick.

Go find yourself something else to fucking do and stop blaming the man who fucking sweat day and night to fucking take us out of this deep shit.


If there's one single soul in this world that doesn't deserve this is Del Piero. If you think he's the problem then you're dumb.

I can't take this shit anymore..

Guess what? you tell me when Juve's problems started? I'm not sucking up to anybody and waht I said is my opinion.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I really wish I had more beers.

 

[v1rtu4l]

The even more depressing thing about this result is that they have 3 players in their team that we sold to them that would be very useful for us: Miccoli, Nocerino and Balzaretti.

i disagree with the nocerino-part here, bro

 

[Azzurri7]

Guess what? you tell me when Juve's problems started? I'm not sucking up to anybody and waht I said is my opinion.

TBH, I think you're right.....It's Del Piero. It all started when he started playing and he got back from injury. He's the problem.

 

[sylvester87]

I'm sick of everytime I suggest Giovinco should start over Del Piero people take offense and think I'm not a Juventino? I was supporting Juve since 1993 when I was old enough to seriously follow football. I swear sometimes I think some of you love Del Piero more than Juventus.

 

[sylvester87]

All I care about is Juventus winning titles that is why I think Capello is the only coach who can change our fortunes because only players who deserve to play will play under Capello.

 

[Mike-e-y]

i disagree with the nocerino-part here, bro

He wouldn't start but I'd have rather kept him instead of buying Poulsen. That was no improvement at all there and we wasted money

 

[tibike]

TBH, I think you're right.....It's Del Piero. It all started when he started playing and he got back from injury. He's the problem.

You have to give him that point. It's not Del Piero's fault, the problem is, the only way to play both him and Diego is the 4-3-1-2, which doesn't suit the rest of the team. Del Piero has been great, but the rest of the team isn't up to it. On the other hand, the 4-2-3-1 seemed to suit our players much more, as we could attack both through the middle and on the flanks, and the wingers were also helping the fullbacks defensively.

Edit: As Alen pointed out, the other option is to play the 4-4-2, benching Diego. Still the soultion seems to be in benching one of our two best players ATM for the sake of the team.

 

[Raz]

He wouldn't start but I'd have rather kept him instead of buying Poulsen. That was no improvement at all there and we wasted money

Do you remember his passing and some decision making? I think it was a good bussines to get rid of him.

 

[Juve_Kosova]

I'm sick of everytime I suggest Giovinco should start over Del Piero people take offense and think I'm not a Juventino? I was supporting Juve since 1993 when I was old enough to seriously follow football. I swear sometimes I think some of you love Del Piero more than Juventus.

Just some......

 

[Mike-e-y]

Do you remember his passing and some decision making? I think it was a good bussines to get rid of him.

I remember it well, but at the end of the day keeping him was free and replacing him with poulsen cost 12m. And Poulsen was just as bad as him in all area's.

 

[Raz]

I agree on the cost, but i think that Poulsens is above Nocerino in every aspect.

 

[sylvester87]

You have to give him that point. It's not Del Piero's fault, the problem is, the only way to play both him and Diego is the 4-3-1-2, which doesn't suit the rest of the team. Del Piero has been great, but the rest of the team isn't up to it. On the other hand, the 4-2-3-1 seemed to suit our players much more, as we could attack both through the middle and on the flanks, and the wingers were also helping the fullbacks defensively.

Edit: As Alen pointed out, the other option is to play the 4-4-2, benching Diego. Still the soultion seems to be in benching one of our two best players ATM for the sake of the team.

Exactly case in point! The fact is the team as a whole strived under the 4-2-3-1 with Giovinco-Diego-Camo playing behind the lone striker. Sadly that formation was scrapped because "The Captain" couldn't fit into that formation. So the conclusion is...it is more important that Alex play than Juve win?!?!?