[Serie A] JUVENTUS 0-2 Palermo (Feb. 28th 2010) (10 Viewers)

[v1rtu4l]

lets hope as many players as possible do play themselves out of their national teams until the world cup, so we will not have many exhausted players at the start of the next season

 

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[JuveJay]

Are you trying to disrespect Trezeguet and Del Piero?

Nah, read the context.

 

[sylvester87]

It's not about DP letting Gio play. It's about the coach having faith in him and actually playing him. Sadly, hardly anyone plays him.

This is why we need Capello, I know Capello will give him the chance especially if he proves to he can help the Don's team win.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

By achieve I meant to reach the 4th spot at least. This objective is certainly in doubt here.

It's insane to expect us to play in the CL or anywhere in Europe with this squad. All we'll do is either scrape through the group stages to get KO'ed in either the 1\16th round or the quarter finals with a pathetic performance. If this is the way we'll play, then there's really no point in playing in Europe. It's only going to lead us into mediocrity. The board needs to learn how it feels to not play in Europe for a year, and thus realize their mistakes.

TBH, I hate to wish that Juve never plays in the CL. But considering our form, what can we expect? What happens now? Where do we go from here?

 

[Azzurri7]

sylvester87 thinks Juve's current problem is Del Piero. Unpredictable post after this defeat no?

 

[tibike]

lets hope as many players as possible do play themselves out of their national teams until the world cup, so we will not have many exhausted players at the start of the next season

Let's hope they get into their NTs, play well at the WC so that we can sell them and buy proper players.

 

[Nicholas]

sylvester87 thinks Juve's current problem is Del Piero. Unpredictable post after this defeat no?

I think he is the last we can blame, seeing as he bailed us out for the last few weeks.

 

[tibike]

sylvester87 thinks Juve's current problem is Del Piero. Unpredictable post after this defeat no?

Well, for me, he's the only reason why we actually have those three wins under Zac. That's the problem with the team, that I was pointing out last week, if Del Piero isn't performing, we won't win.

 

[Raz]

Capello, I don't hink he will come, but if somehow he will, its bye bye Del Piero.

 

[Lo-Pan]

Last week, I and Andy were given shit for saying that our wins were more of Del Piero's doing, rather than Zac's doing. Surprise, surprise, Del Piero didn't play well today and we lost.

Still, I won't bash Zac, because I still think it's due to the simple fact that our team is just not good enough. As Alen said, we have too much muscle and too few footballers, and there are only a handful of coaches in the world who could use that to our advantage.

On a different note, I don't understand what has happened to Grygera during the time with us. I remember him as a decent RB for the Czech NT at the time we bought him, but for some reason, he has became utter shit.

Its hardly worth mentioning that you had a stance a week ago that our success, in recent games, was due to the form of most in form player, for that period. I don't see the point in mentioning it...rather than as a childish I TOLD YOU SO...which is not supporting Juve, its supporting yourself.

The 6 games before this one, have been better than the 20 before...One horrible error from Grygera...other than which 0-1 against a team, in much better form than us, with a better coach, and a team used to playing together all season. 0-1 wouldn't have been a shock to the system. 0-2 isn't a large surprise either, given palermo are the first decent team we have played since Zach took over.

Ok we got done, again, at home...and played shit. But...we are not OUT of the race for fourth. 3 draws, 3 wins, and 1 loss...still ain't terrible.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

This is why we need Capello, I know Capello will give him the chance especially if he proves to he can help the Don's team win.

I really don't know who will give him a chance. I thought at first it would be Ciro, and now Zacc.

There's something really wrong with our mentality. How do they choose to play shit players like Grygera let alone have him in the squad despite his pathetic performance and ZERO contribution? How do they still make subs at the 80th minute despite clearly seeing the team is not playing well at all. Unless the coach EXPECTS mediocrity from us!

 

[Klin]

It's insane to expect us to play in the CL or anywhere in Europe with this squad. All we'll do is either scrape through the group stages to get KO'ed in either the 1\16th round or the quarter finals with a pathetic performance. If this is the way we'll play, then there's really no point in playing in Europe. It's only going to lead us into mediocrity. The board needs to learn how it feels to not play in Europe for a year, and thus realize their mistakes.

TBH, I hate to wish that Juve never plays in the CL. But considering our form, what can we expect? What happens now? Where do we go from here?

I believe it when I see it.

If we won't play Champions League next season, there's a big probability that we'll stay in this mess for a long time.

 

[sylvester87]

sylvester87 thinks Juve's current problem is Del Piero. Unpredictable post after this defeat no?

Yes I think it's Del piero, Ferrara and Zacheroni, Blanc, Secco and Elkann.

Ferrara and Zacheroni for sucumbing to the pressure of playing DeL Piero and the management for everything that is bad right now.

Take a look at the game that Giovinco, Diego and Camo started compare to the teams after Giovinco was bench for no reason and you'll see the playing and team confidence is completely different.

It's funny that on every other site related to Juventus every Juventino are caling for Giovinco except this? hmmm.

 

[v1rtu4l]

1995 a 21 year old prodigy Del piero replaced the 28 year old superstar Roberto Baggio and we all know what happen after that. 2010 we have another prodigy (Giovinco) who's 22 and has already shown he's ready to lead Juventus. It's time Del Piero to accept his role as a bench player and let the younger hungrier Giovinco lead Juventus into the future.

and sell del piero to ac milan (like baggio) ? ^^

the point is that we can not attack with del piero AND trezeguet when the defense of the opponent sits deep. they are to static ... you can play del piero with another striker that does the running for him ... del piero needs that everybody around him is in movement, so the defenders actually need to be on the tip of their toes.

right now when trez is just standing around, the defenders can just stand there and no one is actually alert that something might happen, because trez will be second to every ball played to him anyways ... and so the defense can actually close down del piero very easily, because they now, that they do not need to worry that alex could pass to someone (because that someone trez would not get the ball anyways)

at least we will not overrate paolucci now .. as we saw (nervousness aside) he is no worlbeater neither

 

[sylvester87]

Capello, I don't hink he will come, but if somehow he will, its bye bye Del Piero.

Capello said in an interview a few months ago when ask if we would return to Juve and his answer was "you never know"

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I believe it when I see it.

If we won't play Champions League next season, there's a big probability that we'll stay in this mess for a long time.

Unless the club is being run by chimps who know nothing about football WHATSOEVER, how long can things stay like this?

Or should I not insult chimps by comparing them to our pathetic board?

 

[sylvester87]

and sell del piero to ac milan (like baggio) ? ^^

the point is that we can not attack with del piero AND trezeguet when the defense of the opponent sits deep. they are to static ... you can play del piero with another striker that does the running for him ... del piero needs that everybody around him is in movement, so the defenders actually need to be on the tip of their toes.

right now when trez is just standing around, the defenders can just stand there and no one is actually alert that something might happen, because trez will be second to every ball played to him anyways ... and so the defense can actually close down del piero very easily, because they now, that they do not need to worry that alex could pass to someone (because that someone trez would not get the ball anyways)

at least we will not overrate paolucci now .. as we saw (nervousness aside) he is no worlbeater neither

You didn't read my comments? I said he should accept a bench role not be sold.

 

[swag]

Losing three straight to Palermo is pretty embarrassing, actually.

 

[Azzurri7]

Yes I think it's Del piero, Ferrara and Zacheroni, Blanc, Secco and Elkann.

Ferrara and Zacheroni for sucumbing to the pressure of playing DeL Piero and the management for everything that is bad right now.

Take a look at the game that Giovinco, Diego and Camo started compare to the teams after Giovinco was bench for no reason and you'll see the playing and team confidence is completely different.

It's funny that on every other site related to Juventus every Juventino are caling for Giovinco except this? hmmm.

You're either pretending to be a prick or you are. Blaming Del Piero and making him the head of all this problem makes me sick.

Go find yourself something else to fucking do and stop blaming the man who fucking sweat day and night to fucking take us out of this deep shit.


If there's one single soul in this world that doesn't deserve this is Del Piero. If you think he's the problem then you're dumb.

I can't take this shit anymore..

 

[PhRoZeN]

To say i was planning on travelling to craven cottage for the fulham game.. i seriously am now re-considering it, its going to be a waste and ill only come back as angry and speechless as today.

Nothing to say about this match most of the posts especially alen, azzurri and mikeyy rounds it up.. we suck.